Georgia grand jury investigating Trump returns indictments

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It got me thinking: Could the prosecution ask for Trump's testimony and would this even be a good move?

Yes, Trump could just take the Fifth and decline, but that's not his style, he probably would jump at the opportunity for more limelight. Except Trump would also have no qualms blatantly perjuring himself. He could be tried again for perjury after the fact, but is more trials and prolonging it what is wanted or ideal? For that reason I think it's probably best to just not ask him to testify at all.

The defense doing so would be downright idiotic from their standpoint, but since Trump probably doesn't care and if he ordered his lawyers to call him to the stand, that very well might end up happening.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

One underrated aspect of this indictment is that, as I understand it, if Trump is convicted of the most serious charges here, he faces mandatory minimum jail time that he must start serving immediately and -cannot- be released pending appeal.

Definitely, that's also how CNN explained it. I just wonder what theoretically would happen if he's convicted after being inaugurated as president.

Rule of law take: His VP will take over as Acting President while Donald serves his sentence.

Failed state take: The President is above the law, Trump is free as long as he's President!

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1691915423443501246

These people will need 24/7 protection from lunatic Trump supporters trying to kill or intimidate them.

[emailking]

Trump can do rallies while he's on trial. In 2016 he would regularly do rallies all over the country and go to bed in Trump Tower.

[emailking]

It got me thinking: Could the prosecution ask for Trump's testimony and would this even be a good move?

Yes, Trump could just take the Fifth and decline, but that's not his style, he probably would jump at the opportunity for more limelight. Except Trump would also have no qualms blatantly perjuring himself. He could be tried again for perjury after the fact, but is more trials and prolonging it what is wanted or ideal? For that reason I think it's probably best to just not ask him to testify at all.

The defense doing so would be downright idiotic from their standpoint, but since Trump probably doesn't care and if he ordered his lawyers to call him to the stand, that very well might end up happening.

They can't put him on the stand just to make the jury see him take the 5th. When it's the defense's turn the judge will ask him (with the jury out) if he wants to testify and remind him it's his right to testify or not.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It got me thinking: Could the prosecution ask for Trump's testimony and would this even be a good move?

Yes, Trump could just take the Fifth and decline, but that's not his style, he probably would jump at the opportunity for more limelight. Except Trump would also have no qualms blatantly perjuring himself. He could be tried again for perjury after the fact, but is more trials and prolonging it what is wanted or ideal? For that reason I think it's probably best to just not ask him to testify at all.

The defense doing so would be downright idiotic from their standpoint, but since Trump probably doesn't care and if he ordered his lawyers to call him to the stand, that very well might end up happening.

They can't put him on the stand just to make the jury see him take the 5th. When it's the defense's turn the judge will ask him (with the jury out) if he wants to testify and remind him it's his right to testify or not.

My point is more that he probably wouldn't take the Fifth. But that wouldn't necessarily work in the prosecution's favor if he just blatantly perjures himself which he's perfectly willing to do.

[Pres Mike]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

[GeorgiaModerate]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones.

[Pres Mike]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones.

Wikipedia says he is an Obama appointee. So good?

[Ferguson97]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones.

Wikipedia says he is an Obama appointee. So good?

I mean it's not going to really have an impact on the likelihood of a conviction, but the idea behind getting it moved to federal court is so that Trump (or a future Republican POTUS) can pardon him.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I mean it's not going to really have an impact on the likelihood of a conviction, but the idea behind getting it moved to federal court is so that Trump (or a future Republican POTUS) can pardon him.

Even if the case is moved to federal court Trump will be tried based on Georgia law, so he still won't be able to pardon himself.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones.

Wikipedia says he is an Obama appointee. So good?

I mean it's not going to really have an impact on the likelihood of a conviction, but the idea behind getting it moved to federal court is so that Trump (or a future Republican POTUS) can pardon him.

Wouldn't work.
https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1691616071000698933

[GeorgiaModerate]

The main motivation to move to federal court would be to get a more favorable jury pool. Instead of just Fulton County, the jury would be drawn from a much wider area of North Georgia.

[Pres Mike]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones.

Wikipedia says he is an Obama appointee. So good?

I mean it's not going to really have an impact on the likelihood of a conviction, but the idea behind getting it moved to federal court is so that Trump (or a future Republican POTUS) can pardon him.

But the person who decides if it  is moved to a federal court, an Obama appointee, probably wont right?

[Ferguson97]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones.

Wikipedia says he is an Obama appointee. So good?

I mean it's not going to really have an impact on the likelihood of a conviction, but the idea behind getting it moved to federal court is so that Trump (or a future Republican POTUS) can pardon him.

But the person who decides if it  is moved to a federal court, an Obama appointee, probably wont right?

Probably won't what? (But like BRTD said, I was wrong, this just changes the jury pool)

[Pres Mike]

What are the odds this gets moved to federal court?

For Trump, slim. For Meadows, a little better but not likely.

Who decides if its moved to federal court?

U.S. District Judge Steve Jones.

Wikipedia says he is an Obama appointee. So good?

I mean it's not going to really have an impact on the likelihood of a conviction, but the idea behind getting it moved to federal court is so that Trump (or a future Republican POTUS) can pardon him.

But the person who decides if it  is moved to a federal court, an Obama appointee, probably wont right?

Probably won't what? (But like BRTD said, I was wrong, this just changes the jury pool)

Wont move the trial to federal court

[Yoda]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1691915423443501246

These people will need 24/7 protection from lunatic Trump supporters trying to kill or intimidate them.

Quite possibly. I know it's an urban county but I also wonder how many of these grand jurors are still Southern country bumpkins at heart and are just itching at the thought of some militant MAGA terrorist coming to their property to harass them and they're just waiting there with a rifle. I'm no gun nut by any stretch but if I had just done my civilian duty serving on a grand jury and was facing genuine physical threats as a result I would have every relative with a gun over to my house at all hours. First trumper to set foot on my lawn and threaten me would learn them something real f***ing quick.

[jaichind]

https://twitter.com/IAPolls2022/status/1692132830447284354

[GeorgiaModerate]

To reiterate what has been mentioned above: if any of the trials are moved to federal court, they are still trials under STATE LAW.  The President CANNOT pardon anyone found guilty in them.

[GeorgiaModerate]

https://twitter.com/bluestein/status/1692121594427326802

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Kemp isn't pardoning Trump if his own LT Gov testified against him he said it's strength to concede defeat the only reason why Trump cant say concede because he was never a politician and lost before

You only can pardon anyways except the Nixon example unless the Defense has been convicted there is no Conviction yet they are gonna let the criminal process play out

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/abc/status/1692137489790578800

FYI everyone “x.com” tweet links don’t embed properly, you have to edit them to be twitter.com

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

What about all those threats that GA officials had made to their lives he tried to steal it who cares what Trump says

[GeorgiaModerate]

Kemp isn't pardoning Trump if his own LT Gov testified against him he said it's strength to concede defeat the only reason why Trump cant say concede because he was never a politician and lost before

You only can pardon anyways except the Nixon example unless the Defense has been convicted there is no Conviction yet they are gonna let the criminal process play out

You're right, Kemp isn't pardoning Trump.  But the reason is simple: in Georgia, the governor has no power to pardon.  It was taken away in a state constitutional amendment in 1943 following the indictment of Gov. E. D. Rivers for selling pardons, among other corruption charges.

[Ferguson97]

Kemp isn't pardoning Trump if his own LT Gov testified against him he said it's strength to concede defeat the only reason why Trump cant say concede because he was never a politician and lost before

You only can pardon anyways except the Nixon example unless the Defense has been convicted there is no Conviction yet they are gonna let the criminal process play out

You're right, Kemp isn't pardoning Trump.  But the reason is simple: in Georgia, the governor has no power to pardon.  It was taken away in a state constitutional amendment in 1943 following the indictment of Gov. E. D. Rivers for selling pardons, among other corruption charges.

How hard is it to add a constitutional amendment in Georgia?