Lesbian couples will soon be able to have thier "own" children.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article2444462.ece


I apologise in advance for the flames to come.

I personally find this quite creepy and I'm not sure what to say otherwise.

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Well, maybe Heather really can have two mommies.

[Cubby]

I apologise in advance for the flames to come.

No comprende

I personally find this quite creepy and I'm not sure what to say otherwise.

Its not your fault you find it creepy, you're a Republican.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Well, maybe Heather really can have two mommies.

I'm curious to know what you really think of this, it is possible even you have a limit to what is natural?

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I apologise in advance for the flames to come.

No comprende

I personally find this quite creepy and I'm not sure what to say otherwise.

Its not your fault you find it creepy, you're a Republican.

I expect alot of flames on this one...

And you yourself don't find it a bit strange or unnatural?

[Speed of Sound]

I think this is another great biological advancement. I am proud of our scientists, they are busting down scientific barriers at record rates!

[John Dibble]

I don't see a problem with it so long as the children produced are healthy as those created through the natural process.

However it does remind me of this crappy TV movie I saw once where the world was ruled by women and only a handful of men were still alive (the majority were killed off by a bio-weapon that kills any man not immune) - the women reproduced kinda like what's proposed here.

[John Dibble]

I think this is another great biological advancement. I am proud of our scientists, they are busting down scientific barriers at record rates!

Advancement, ehh?  Rather a subjective declaration, don't you think?

I wouldn't say it isn't an advancement - it would be something we can't do now with current technology. That's not to say it's a good advancement. For instance the invention of the atomic bomb was an advancement but there's many who wouldn't say it was a good thing.

[Cubby]

I apologise in advance for the flames to come.

No comprende

I personally find this quite creepy and I'm not sure what to say otherwise.

Its not your fault you find it creepy, you're a Republican.

I expect alot of flames on this one...

And you yourself don't find it a bit strange or unnatural?

Honestly, I didn't even read the story. I just figured some Sisters of Sappho were being ridiculed, so I defended them. If I'm guilty of anything here its laziness.

Do you have something meaningful to contribute to the thread?

No. No I don't.

P.S.: Are you Preston Caldwell?

[Speed of Sound]

I think this is another great biological advancement. I am proud of our scientists, they are busting down scientific barriers at record rates!

Advancement, ehh?  Rather a subjective declaration, don't you think?

I wouldn't say it isn't an advancement - it would be something we can't do now with current technology. That's not to say it's a good advancement. For instance the invention of the atomic bomb was an advancement but there's many who wouldn't say it was a good thing.

Well, sure, I meant (and I'm sure SoS did as well) by advancement in that context something with a clear positive effect.

Of course I meant it with a positive connotation, and yes, it was a subjective declaration, but then again, so are most on a political forum, my friend.

[Reignman]

I don't see a problem with it so long as the children produced are healthy as those created through the natural process.

However it does remind me of this crappy TV movie I saw once where the world was ruled by women and only a handful of men were still alive (the majority were killed off by a bio-weapon that kills any man not immune) - the women reproduced kinda like what's proposed here.

Yeah, I watched the first few minutes of that and then stopped.

[Reignman]

Oh yeah, and I have no idea why anyone should think this is "creepy."

[Ban my account ffs!]

Just think.  Dick Cheney's daughter will finally be able to have children.

[Reignman]

Just think.  Dick Cheney's daughter will finally be able to have children.

Good point.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Oh yeah, and I have no idea why anyone should think this is "creepy."

Probably because it's unnatural, and blatently so, on several different levels.
(should add that, personally, I find "ordinary" IVF to be almost as bad).

[Ebowed]

OMG THIS IS AN OUTRAGE.

I can't think of anything that presents a more dangerous threat to society than the idea that lesbians could have "legitimate" biological children.  If we tolerate the immoral acts that are brought about through the homosexual mental disorder, we may as well have no laws or moral boundaries at all.  Just think of the children- they'll probably grow up to be lesbian too.  Sick stuff.

[Padfoot]

The idea of female sperm is what strikes me as the strangest thing about this.  I always thought it would be possible for scientists to come up with a way for gay couples to have biological children but I never expected them to invent female sperm.  I always imagined some sort of hybridization process in which they somehow melded together the DNA of two same sex people and inserted it into an empty egg.

[angus]

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article2444462.ece

In related news, Eli Lilly and Company now produces an early pregnancy test with an applicator shaped like Jodie Foster's fist.

[7,052,770]

I'm not sure about this.  Seems unnatural.  Then again so is in vitro and a lot of other stuff that's acceptable.

[MODU]

About 2 years ago an Australian scientist conceived her own child in a lab using her own skin cells as the fertile material.  It was controversial since, in a way, it was a form of cloning.  I haven't heard too much about it since then.

[minionofmidas]

The idea of female sperm is what strikes me as the strangest thing about this.  I always thought it would be possible for scientists to come up with a way for gay couples to have biological children but I never expected them to invent female sperm. 

Why? Men are technically superfluous to human procreation, that's a fairly old notion. Merging two guys' sperm cell's dna, though, will produce something not human, that does not exist in reality, 50% of the time. (Something with YY chromosomes, whatever that would look like, and whether or no it would technically be capable of surviving.)

[Filuwaúrdjan]

As an update of sorts using this procedure in fertility treatment (and etc) is probably going to be banned here

[Gabu]

As an update of sorts using this procedure in fertility treatment (and etc) is probably going to be banned here

That didn't take long.

Also, a minor English quibble: "etc." is short for the Latin et cetera, which literally means "and the rest", so "and etc." means "and and the rest".

[Sam Spade]

Oh yeah, and I have no idea why anyone should think this is "creepy."

Probably because it's unnatural, and blatently so, on several different levels.
(should add that, personally, I find "ordinary" IVF to be almost as bad).

Let me say that I personally agree with Al on both points here (this and IVF).

[afleitch]

While I am in full support of regular IVF treatments, I believe that all children should be conceived, through natural or artificla needs 'part man part woman if you will', regardless of who looks after them in childhood. The 'sperm' should always be male and the 'egg' always female. I have no problem in creating sperm from bone marrow to help men who have a low sperm count (and it doesn't help that sperm levels are decreasing at alarming levels in the western world) but that's as far as I will support it.