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« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2023, 02:36:18 PM »

ASSUMING A D+3.2 NATIONAL ENVIRONMENT FOR POTUS:

- Alaska (3): Trump +10.3
- Iowa (6): Trump +5.0
- Ohio (17): Trump +4.7
- Maine 2nd CD (1): Trump +6.6
- Texas (40): Trump +1.9
- Florida (30): Trump +4.7
- North Carolina (16): Biden +0.1
- Georgia (16): Biden +0.8
- Arizona (11): Biden +2.1
- Wisconsin (10): Biden +5.0
- Pennsylvania (19): Biden +5.4
- Nevada (6): Biden +1.1
- Michigan (15): Biden +5.1
- Nebraska 2nd CD (1): Biden +5.7
- Minnesota (10): Biden +9.2
- New Hampshire (4): Biden +7.8
- Maine (2 at-large EVs): Biden +8.8
- Virginia (13): Biden +9.6
- New Mexico (5): Biden +11.0
- Colorado (10): Biden +13.6
- New Jersey (14): Biden +15.5
- Oregon (8 ): Biden +15.0
- Illinois (19): Biden +15.7
- Delaware (3): Biden +18.5
- Washington state (12): Biden +16.4
Where is Trump gaining?
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« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2023, 02:37:16 PM »

ASSUMING A D+3.2 NATIONAL ENVIRONMENT FOR POTUS:

- Alaska (3): Trump +10.3
- Iowa (6): Trump +5.0
- Ohio (17): Trump +4.7
- Maine 2nd CD (1): Trump +6.6
- Texas (40): Trump +1.9
- Florida (30): Trump +4.7
- North Carolina (16): Biden +0.1
- Georgia (16): Biden +0.8
- Arizona (11): Biden +2.1
- Wisconsin (10): Biden +5.0
- Pennsylvania (19): Biden +5.4
- Nevada (6): Biden +1.1
- Michigan (15): Biden +5.1
- Nebraska 2nd CD (1): Biden +5.7
- Minnesota (10): Biden +9.2
- New Hampshire (4): Biden +7.8
- Maine (2 at-large EVs): Biden +8.8
- Virginia (13): Biden +9.6
- New Mexico (5): Biden +11.0
- Colorado (10): Biden +13.6
- New Jersey (14): Biden +15.5
- Oregon (8 ): Biden +15.0
- Illinois (19): Biden +15.7
- Delaware (3): Biden +18.5
- Washington state (12): Biden +16.4
Where is Trump gaining?

California, New York, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, and Florida
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« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2023, 02:53:29 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2023, 02:57:39 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

OH isn't Lean R right now, I don't care what the Approvals says because alot of these Approvals aren't showing the true story that in individual state by state matches Ds are GETTING 52 percent lol as I said it's more than just polls it's about voting the o there is push polling out there for Trump so they can make it appear he is more competitive and actually he isn't , because this is the same Trump that lost to Biden in 20 not beat Hillary in 2016
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« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2023, 05:28:12 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2023, 05:33:12 PM by The $0.19 Plan to invade Iran 🇧🇪❤️🇺🇦 »

- Alaska (3): Trump +2
- Iowa (6): Trump +12
- Ohio (17): Trump +12
- Maine's second congressional district (1): Trump +6
- Texas (40): Trump +7
- Florida (30): Trump +12
- North Carolina (16): Trump +3
- Georgia (16): Biden +0
- Arizona (11): Biden +1
- Wisconsin (10): Trump +2
- Pennsylvania (19): Biden +4
- Nevada (6): Biden +2
- Michigan (15): Biden +9
- Nebraska's second congressional district (1): Biden +3
- Minnesota (10): Biden +6
- New Hampshire (4): Biden +11
- Maine (2 at-large EVs): Biden +10
- Virginia (13): Biden +7
- New Mexico (5): Biden +10
- Colorado (10): Biden +14
- New Jersey (14): Biden +9
- Oregon (8 ): Biden +15
- Illinois (19): Biden +16
- Delaware (3): Biden +17
- Washington state (12): Biden +18

Why do you think Jersey will be that close?

Mid-atlantic swing to the right
Certain demographics and suburban areas in New Jersey that worry me (the S019 kind of people)
2021 was a warning sign
Bad downballot candidates (no enthusiasm for Menendez except for mindless D voters)

The same mindless D voters will mean D's easily win as there will be virtually no campaigning, but Democrats will underperform here compare to other states. Some people in this area will vote with their wallet in mind (and flip Trump that way) and/or certain issues like critical race theory in schools etc. will flip some. NJ probably also is a bit more socially conservative than other areas (or at least the NJ suburbs more than other kind of suburbs, similarly to the NY suburbs like Staten Island and Long Island). Basically the Zeldin-Ciaterelli-Giulani-Youngkin kind of brand sells well here, and Trump fits well among that group.

New York and Virginia probably also trend right relative to the nation for similar reasons and North Carolina remains republican. However New York is a bit of a mixed bag, and New England/PA/MI will trend left probably (might depend from state to state in NE but NH will probably swing left).
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« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2023, 05:51:57 PM »
« Edited: August 09, 2023, 05:57:42 PM by The $0.19 Plan to invade Iran 🇧🇪❤️🇺🇦 »

I haven't really checked downballot candidates otherwise (or taken into account)

AZ: no effect (mixed bag, Gallego is a good democratic candidate, i suppose whoever the republicans nominate here might not be of help to Trump)

DE: Carper retires, so open, but overall safe enough

FL: I don't think Rick Scott might perform as well as DeSantis & Rubio do, and it's also an election year so maybe the +12 might have been too overestimated. Though Florida might be to the right of OH anyways because of Sherrod Brown on the ballot, but FL probably also has like higher presidential turnout. Depends also on how much resources the D's allocate to it or if they abandon sort of it (if they don't have a good senate candidate, they could as well not focus too much on it)

ME: DK if Angus King has an upballot effect, independent. I suppose there'll be King/Trump voters as well but mostly King/Biden as he caucuses with the Dems. Jared Golden is always of big help though.

MI: Open, so remains to be seen, but important election and the republicans don't really have a bench here and James is gonna stick to the seat he has now.

MN: Klobuchar, yeah that will be helpful to Biden, that seals the deal.

NV: I don't think Jacky Rosen is a very strong candidate, overall neutral effect, but probably again very narrow win, seems like NV might be more risky in an off-year election because 2022 wasn't really that good, though mostly the gubernational ones.

NJ: I don't think people care enough but Menendez isn't great

NM: Heinrich neutral

NY: Gillibrand really is helpful for boosting turnout

OH: Brown being up, means it'll be more contested than it would otherwise, maybe my +12 is too exaggerated but OH doesn't have that thing that in presidential years its more beneficial for the Dems than off-year ones. Though the opposite is no longer true either, ask Tim Ryan.

PA: Casey Jr. definitely of big help. The GOP might need McCormick to be nominated which looks might not be the case. PA in 2022 was horrible for the GOP. Fetterman winning by 5 despite attacks on his illness should've never happened.

TX: Fools gold for now, even though Cruz technically might be vulnerable.

VA: Kaine usually does well in elections

WI: Baldwin is also a good candidate, better than the other candidates i've experienced because she wins her elections and the other candidate usually doesn't. It's gonna be tricky though. WI has been disappointing and Biden only narrowly won it in 2020. Definitely the closest of the three rust belt states i believe.

WV and MT might also shift left tbh because of Manchin & Tester. Even though Manchin is done. Tester will probably be a similar result to Bullock, maybe slightly better. And Brown similar to Ryan but slightly better. In all these examples, the downballot candidates do better than Biden i think.

Peltola helps Biden a lot i think in Alaska, though I do believe given the nature of Alaska and it being split from the mainland and it having its own kind of culture & thing that it is perfectly reasonable to assume Peltola comfortably wins while Trump does as well, though with a large shift to the left.

I do think Trump winning Alaska will be by a more narrow margin than Peltola.

Aside of that, downballot candidates are great for the Dems.

NJ is one of those states that isn't, even compared to VA and NY. Trump probably also keeps NC (no senate election either here).

There are some unknowns though. Like is there split voting in WI. Does Baldwin go down if Trump wins the state. But the state might be close enough that even without much split voting Baldwin could hang on while Trump carries it. Baldwin also was up in 2012 and 2018, two solid years for the Dems (esp. 2018 in WI compared to 2016).
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« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2023, 06:02:07 PM »

Tbh Wisconsin might go with Biden after all, i just don't know how the **** Ron Johnson won both of these two elections, and Trump also came very close in 2020. But Evers won pretty comfortably in 2022, by more than expected and Baldwin never is in problem here.

I suppose Feingold and Barnes were too left for the state or didn't have great campaigns. Or Ron Johnson has some appeal i don't get.

Trump probably lost a bit of his shine with this group of people, esp. the Trump of 2020 and 2024 or what the GOP is evolving into.
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« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2023, 06:10:19 PM »

I haven't really checked downballot candidates otherwise (or taken into account)

AZ: no effect (mixed bag, Gallego is a good democratic candidate, i suppose whoever the republicans nominate here might not be of help to Trump)

DE: Carper retires, so open, but overall safe enough

FL: I don't think Rick Scott might perform as well as DeSantis & Rubio do, and it's also an election year so maybe the +12 might have been too overestimated. Though Florida might be to the right of OH anyways because of Sherrod Brown on the ballot, but FL probably also has like higher presidential turnout. Depends also on how much resources the D's allocate to it or if they abandon sort of it (if they don't have a good senate candidate, they could as well not focus too much on it)

ME: DK if Angus King has an upballot effect, independent. I suppose there'll be King/Trump voters as well but mostly King/Biden as he caucuses with the Dems. Jared Golden is always of big help though.

MI: Open, so remains to be seen, but important election and the republicans don't really have a bench here and James is gonna stick to the seat he has now.

MN: Klobuchar, yeah that will be helpful to Biden, that seals the deal.

NV: I don't think Jacky Rosen is a very strong candidate, overall neutral effect, but probably again very narrow win, seems like NV might be more risky in an off-year election because 2022 wasn't really that good, though mostly the gubernational ones.

NJ: I don't think people care enough but Menendez isn't great

NM: Heinrich neutral

NY: Gillibrand really is helpful for boosting turnout

OH: Brown being up, means it'll be more contested than it would otherwise, maybe my +12 is too exaggerated but OH doesn't have that thing that in presidential years its more beneficial for the Dems than off-year ones. Though the opposite is no longer true either, ask Tim Ryan.

PA: Casey Jr. definitely of big help. The GOP might need McCormick to be nominated which looks might not be the case. PA in 2022 was horrible for the GOP. Fetterman winning by 5 despite attacks on his illness should've never happened.

TX: Fools gold for now, even though Cruz technically might be vulnerable.

VA: Kaine usually does well in elections

WI: Baldwin is also a good candidate, better than the other candidates i've experienced because she wins her elections and the other candidate usually doesn't. It's gonna be tricky though. WI has been disappointing and Biden only narrowly won it in 2020. Definitely the closest of the three rust belt states i believe.

WV and MT might also shift left tbh because of Manchin & Tester. Even though Manchin is done. Tester will probably be a similar result to Bullock, maybe slightly better. And Brown similar to Ryan but slightly better. In all these examples, the downballot candidates do better than Biden i think.

Peltola helps Biden a lot i think in Alaska, though I do believe given the nature of Alaska and it being split from the mainland and it having its own kind of culture & thing that it is perfectly reasonable to assume Peltola comfortably wins while Trump does as well, though with a large shift to the left.

I do think Trump winning Alaska will be by a more narrow margin than Peltola.

Aside of that, downballot candidates are great for the Dems.

NJ is one of those states that isn't, even compared to VA and NY. Trump probably also keeps NC (no senate election either here).

There are some unknowns though. Like is there split voting in WI. Does Baldwin go down if Trump wins the state. But the state might be close enough that even without much split voting Baldwin could hang on while Trump carries it. Baldwin also was up in 2012 and 2018, two solid years for the Dems (esp. 2018 in WI compared to 2016).

Wouldn’t Mark Robinson on the ballot be a bit of a drag on Trump?
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« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2023, 08:25:09 PM »

- Alaska (worth 3 electoral votes in 2024) R+7
- Iowa (6) R+9
- Ohio (17) R+10
- Maine's second congressional district (1) R+4
- Texas (40) R+4
- Florida (30) R+4
- North Carolina (16) R+4
- Georgia (16) D+1
- Arizona (11) D+1
- Wisconsin (10) D+1
- Pennsylvania (19) D+1
- Nevada (6) R+1
- Michigan (15) D+3
- Nebraska's second congressional district (1) D+1
- Minnesota (10) D+7
- New Hampshire (4) D+8
- Maine (2 at-large EVs) D+7
- Virginia (13) D+7
- New Mexico (5) D+11
- Colorado (10) D+14
- New Jersey (14) D+9
- Oregon 8 D+16
- Illinois (19) D+17
- Delaware (3) D+16
- Washington state (12) D+15
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« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2023, 11:26:38 AM »

I haven't really checked downballot candidates otherwise (or taken into account)

AZ: no effect (mixed bag, Gallego is a good democratic candidate, i suppose whoever the republicans nominate here might not be of help to Trump)

DE: Carper retires, so open, but overall safe enough

FL: I don't think Rick Scott might perform as well as DeSantis & Rubio do, and it's also an election year so maybe the +12 might have been too overestimated. Though Florida might be to the right of OH anyways because of Sherrod Brown on the ballot, but FL probably also has like higher presidential turnout. Depends also on how much resources the D's allocate to it or if they abandon sort of it (if they don't have a good senate candidate, they could as well not focus too much on it)

ME: DK if Angus King has an upballot effect, independent. I suppose there'll be King/Trump voters as well but mostly King/Biden as he caucuses with the Dems. Jared Golden is always of big help though.

MI: Open, so remains to be seen, but important election and the republicans don't really have a bench here and James is gonna stick to the seat he has now.

MN: Klobuchar, yeah that will be helpful to Biden, that seals the deal.

NV: I don't think Jacky Rosen is a very strong candidate, overall neutral effect, but probably again very narrow win, seems like NV might be more risky in an off-year election because 2022 wasn't really that good, though mostly the gubernational ones.

NJ: I don't think people care enough but Menendez isn't great

NM: Heinrich neutral

NY: Gillibrand really is helpful for boosting turnout

OH: Brown being up, means it'll be more contested than it would otherwise, maybe my +12 is too exaggerated but OH doesn't have that thing that in presidential years its more beneficial for the Dems than off-year ones. Though the opposite is no longer true either, ask Tim Ryan.

PA: Casey Jr. definitely of big help. The GOP might need McCormick to be nominated which looks might not be the case. PA in 2022 was horrible for the GOP. Fetterman winning by 5 despite attacks on his illness should've never happened.

TX: Fools gold for now, even though Cruz technically might be vulnerable.

VA: Kaine usually does well in elections

WI: Baldwin is also a good candidate, better than the other candidates i've experienced because she wins her elections and the other candidate usually doesn't. It's gonna be tricky though. WI has been disappointing and Biden only narrowly won it in 2020. Definitely the closest of the three rust belt states i believe.

WV and MT might also shift left tbh because of Manchin & Tester. Even though Manchin is done. Tester will probably be a similar result to Bullock, maybe slightly better. And Brown similar to Ryan but slightly better. In all these examples, the downballot candidates do better than Biden i think.

Peltola helps Biden a lot i think in Alaska, though I do believe given the nature of Alaska and it being split from the mainland and it having its own kind of culture & thing that it is perfectly reasonable to assume Peltola comfortably wins while Trump does as well, though with a large shift to the left.

I do think Trump winning Alaska will be by a more narrow margin than Peltola.

Aside of that, downballot candidates are great for the Dems.

NJ is one of those states that isn't, even compared to VA and NY. Trump probably also keeps NC (no senate election either here).

There are some unknowns though. Like is there split voting in WI. Does Baldwin go down if Trump wins the state. But the state might be close enough that even without much split voting Baldwin could hang on while Trump carries it. Baldwin also was up in 2012 and 2018, two solid years for the Dems (esp. 2018 in WI compared to 2016).

Wouldn’t Mark Robinson on the ballot be a bit of a drag on Trump?

Who is Mark Robinson?
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« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2023, 11:50:38 AM »
« Edited: August 10, 2023, 12:19:00 PM by here2view »

Alaska: R+6
Iowa: R+11
Ohio: R+7
ME-2: R+6
Texas: R+5
Florida: R+6
North Carolina: D+1
Georgia: D+2
Arizona: D+2
Wisconsin: D+1
Pennsylvania: D+2
Nevada: D+1
Michigan: D+5
NE-02: D+5
Minnesota: D+8
New Hampshire: D+9
ME-AL: D+9
Virginia: D+11
New Mexico: D+9
Colorado: D+17
New Jersey: D+16
Oregon: D+17
Illinois: D+16
Delaware: D+18
Washington: D+21
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« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2023, 08:03:59 PM »

Just  look at  the vote  on  the proposition  today  in Ohio. The GOP (especially  the MAGA types) really wanted to  win  that one, in  an R-leaning state. Ohio  can swing  wildly, as  between 2012 and 2016.

At this point, I  may be  excessively cautious.

OH and WI  voted  7 points  apart  in 2016, and  all of  9 points  apart  in 2020. I'd be  quite surprised  if  that gap  somehow  managed to stay  below 11%  come  next year. The 3% you're suggesting  is  implausible, to say  the least.

So is  the 7-point gap  between WI and MI. They voted  0.5% apart  in 2016  and  well under 2% apart  in 2020. I'd expect MI to vote  under 0.2% to WI's right  in 2024, if  it  even does  at all.


With regard to  the OH margin, Trump's highly likely  to carry it  by double-digits  in 2024. I certainly can't see  it  dipping below  his repeated 8-point performance, let alone  a mere 2%.


Also, I'm pretty sure "the MAGA types" are actually the least socially conservative  major bloc  within  today's GOP electorate.


- Alaska (3): Trump +2
- Iowa (6): Trump +12
- Ohio (17): Trump +12
- Maine's second congressional district (1): Trump +6
- Texas (40): Trump +7
- Florida (30): Trump +12
- North Carolina (16): Trump +3
- Georgia (16): Biden +0
- Arizona (11): Biden +1
- Wisconsin (10): Trump +2
- Pennsylvania (19): Biden +4
- Nevada (6): Biden +2
- Michigan (15): Biden +9
- Nebraska's second congressional district (1): Biden +3
- Minnesota (10): Biden +6
- New Hampshire (4): Biden +11
- Maine (2 at-large EVs): Biden +10
- Virginia (13): Biden +7
- New Mexico (5): Biden +10
- Colorado (10): Biden +14
- New Jersey (14): Biden +9
- Oregon (8 ): Biden +15
- Illinois (19): Biden +16
- Delaware (3): Biden +17
- Washington state (12): Biden +18

NE-02 voting six points to MI's right? ME-AL and NH voting to VA's left? How come?
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« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2023, 08:34:37 PM »



- Alaska (worth 3 electoral votes in 2024): R +6
- Iowa (6): R+8
- Ohio (17) R+ 6
- Maine's second congressional district (1): R +3
- Texas (40): R +5
- Florida (30): R +5
- North Carolina (16): Even
- Georgia (16): Even
- Arizona (11): D + 1
- Wisconsin (10): R + 1
- Pennsylvania (19): D + 1
- Nevada (6): Even
- Michigan (15): D +3
- Nebraska's second congressional district (1): D +4
- Minnesota (10): D +3
- New Hampshire (4): D + 4
- Maine (2 at-large EVs): D +6
- Virginia (13): D +5
- New Mexico (5): D+8
- Colorado (10): D +10
- New Jersey (14): D +12
- Oregon (Cool: D +11
- Illinois (19): D + 15
- Delaware (3): D +12
- Washington state (12): D+14

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« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2023, 10:10:11 PM »

Just  look at  the vote  on  the proposition  today  in Ohio. The GOP (especially  the MAGA types) really wanted to  win  that one, in  an R-leaning state. Ohio  can swing  wildly, as  between 2012 and 2016.

At this point, I  may be  excessively cautious.

OH and WI  voted  7 points  apart  in 2016, and  all of  9 points  apart  in 2020. I'd be  quite surprised  if  that gap  somehow  managed to stay  below 11%  come  next year. The 3% you're suggesting  is  implausible, to say  the least.

So is  the 7-point gap  between WI and MI. They voted  0.5% apart  in 2016  and  well under 2% apart  in 2020. I'd expect MI to vote  under 0.2% to WI's right  in 2024, if  it  even does  at all.


With regard to  the OH margin, Trump's highly likely  to carry it  by double-digits  in 2024. I certainly can't see  it  dipping below  his repeated 8-point performance, let alone  a mere 2%.


Also, I'm pretty sure "the MAGA types" are actually the least socially conservative  major bloc  within  today's GOP electorate.


- Alaska (3): Trump +2
- Iowa (6): Trump +12
- Ohio (17): Trump +12
- Maine's second congressional district (1): Trump +6
- Texas (40): Trump +7
- Florida (30): Trump +12
- North Carolina (16): Trump +3
- Georgia (16): Biden +0
- Arizona (11): Biden +1
- Wisconsin (10): Trump +2
- Pennsylvania (19): Biden +4
- Nevada (6): Biden +2
- Michigan (15): Biden +9
- Nebraska's second congressional district (1): Biden +3
- Minnesota (10): Biden +6
- New Hampshire (4): Biden +11
- Maine (2 at-large EVs): Biden +10
- Virginia (13): Biden +7
- New Mexico (5): Biden +10
- Colorado (10): Biden +14
- New Jersey (14): Biden +9
- Oregon (8 ): Biden +15
- Illinois (19): Biden +16
- Delaware (3): Biden +17
- Washington state (12): Biden +18

NE-02 voting six points to MI's right? ME-AL and NH voting to VA's left? How come?

I do believe MI swings left heavily, while i don't think VA trends left this year.
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« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2023, 01:55:47 PM »

I do believe MI swings left heavily, while i don't think VA trends left this year.

I guess  we'll see  about  that  then, I'll hold you  to  your word!
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« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2023, 11:19:59 AM »

Solely because  it  could've been  seen as  the  very   last and final  act, of ... her time?

OH doesn't have that thing where its presidential elections are more beneficial for the Democrats than off-year ones. Though the opposite isn't true anymore either, just ask Tim Ryan.

I think  he was  a terrific fit  for  the state's electorate  and  its mood  at  that particular point in time, unlike Vance's weaknesses. I think  he performed about as well as  any  generic Democrat  ever could've  in  that kind of environment, giving  the national Republican establishment  some  really scary  injuries  to "go home" with, the sweat  running  along  their backs  came as  a pleasantly nasty surprise  in 2022.

In Arizona, it'll be a mixed bag. Gallego is a good Democratic candidate, and the Republicans nominee may not help Trump all that much, come 2024's time.

What're  your thoughts  on   its  state of play   if Sinema decides to run  for  re-election  once more?

Manchin is done. Tester could probably finish with a similar result to Bullock, perhaps slightly better than his. And Brown will get something similar to Ryan's, just slightly better as well. In other words

Meanwhile, Sherrod Brown's going to look to repeat  that feat  next year, running well ahead  of  his state's  partisan baseline  yet again, as well Jon Tester. Do you really think  they're both "significant underdogs" for re-election, at  this stage?

- Alaska (worth 3 electoral votes in 2024) R+7
- Iowa (6) R+9
- Ohio (17) R+10
- Maine's second congressional district (1) R+4
- Texas (40) R+4
- Florida (30) R+4
- North Carolina (16) R+4
- Georgia (16) D+1
- Arizona (11) D+1
- Wisconsin (10) D+1
- Pennsylvania (19) D+1
- Nevada (6) R+1
- Michigan (15) D+3
- Nebraska's second congressional district (1) D+1
- Minnesota (10) D+7
- New Hampshire (4) D+8
- Maine (2 at-large EVs) D+7
- Virginia (13) D+7
- New Mexico (5) D+11
- Colorado (10) D+14
- New Jersey (14) D+9
- Oregon 8 D+16
- Illinois (19) D+17
- Delaware (3) D+16
- Washington state (12) D+15

Same margin  for Trump  in NC as FL? How did NE-02 get  so close  all of a sudden? Also, why's VA closer  than  it was  in 2020? And please don't say "Youngkin 2021", I'm begging you ...

I believe MI will swing toward the left a ton, while VA won't trend leftward at all next fall.

Highly doubtful  imho, but  I suppose   they  shall  find out, once  they  get going ...
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« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2023, 11:23:08 AM »

Solely because  it  could've been  seen as  the  very   last and final  act, of ... her time?

OH doesn't have that thing where its presidential elections are more beneficial for the Democrats than off-year ones. Though the opposite isn't true anymore either, just ask Tim Ryan.

I think  he was  a terrific fit  for  the state's electorate  and  its mood  at  that particular point in time, unlike Vance's weaknesses. I think  he performed about as well as  any  generic Democrat  ever could've  in  that kind of environment, giving  the national Republican establishment  some  really scary  injuries  to "go home" with, the sweat  running  along  their backs  came as  a pleasantly nasty surprise  in 2022.

In Arizona, it'll be a mixed bag. Gallego is a good Democratic candidate, and the Republicans nominee may not help Trump all that much, come 2024's time.

What're  your thoughts  on   its  state of play   if Sinema decides to run  for  re-election  once more?

Manchin is done. Tester could probably finish with a similar result to Bullock, perhaps slightly better than his. And Brown will get something similar to Ryan's, just slightly better as well. In other words

Meanwhile, Sherrod Brown's going to look to repeat  that feat  next year, running well ahead  of  his state's  partisan baseline  yet again, as well Jon Tester. Do you really think  they're both "significant underdogs" for re-election, at  this stage?

- Alaska (worth 3 electoral votes in 2024) R+7
- Iowa (6) R+9
- Ohio (17) R+10
- Maine's second congressional district (1) R+4
- Texas (40) R+4
- Florida (30) R+4
- North Carolina (16) R+4
- Georgia (16) D+1
- Arizona (11) D+1
- Wisconsin (10) D+1
- Pennsylvania (19) D+1
- Nevada (6) R+1
- Michigan (15) D+3
- Nebraska's second congressional district (1) D+1
- Minnesota (10) D+7
- New Hampshire (4) D+8
- Maine (2 at-large EVs) D+7
- Virginia (13) D+7
- New Mexico (5) D+11
- Colorado (10) D+14
- New Jersey (14) D+9
- Oregon 8 D+16
- Illinois (19) D+17
- Delaware (3) D+16
- Washington state (12) D+15

Same margin  for Trump  in NC as FL? How did NE-02 get  so close  all of a sudden? Also, why's VA closer  than  it was  in 2020? And please don't say "Youngkin 2021", I'm begging you ...

I believe MI will swing toward the left a ton, while VA won't trend leftward at all next fall.

Highly doubtful  imho, but  I suppose   they  shall  find out, once  they  get going ...

Those predictions have since been changed.
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« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2023, 11:49:48 AM »

Those predictions  have since been changed.

Very well  then. To ... what, though, exactly, if  I may  ask? Thank you very much  in advance  for  your indulgence!
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« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2023, 02:49:40 PM »

Those predictions  have since been changed.

Very well  then. To ... what, though, exactly, if  I may  ask? Thank you very much  in advance  for  your indulgence!

As of now, I give Trump the advantage only because of the potential vote splitting that Cornel West and possibly No Labels can cause. West is getting a lot of media attention and Dems tend to be more open to third parties than GOP, thus allowing third parties to take more votes from Dems than GOP. They may take enough votes to swing states like PA, WI, MI, and GA to hand Trump the election.

Also no problem, anytime!
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« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2023, 02:52:09 PM »

Those predictions  have since been changed.

Very well  then. To ... what, though, exactly, if  I may  ask? Thank you very much  in advance  for  your indulgence!

As of now, I give Trump the advantage only because of the potential vote splitting that Cornel West and possibly No Labels can cause. West is getting a lot of media attention and Dems tend to be more open to third parties than GOP, thus allowing third parties to take more votes from Dems than GOP. They may take enough votes to swing states like PA, WI, MI, and GA to hand Trump the election.

Also no problem, anytime!

Cornel West’s campaign was already getting a lot of attention when you first posted your predictions. Why wasn’t Trump favored then?
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« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2023, 02:53:29 PM »

Those predictions  have since been changed.

Very well  then. To ... what, though, exactly, if  I may  ask? Thank you very much  in advance  for  your indulgence!

As of now, I give Trump the advantage only because of the potential vote splitting that Cornel West and possibly No Labels can cause. West is getting a lot of media attention and Dems tend to be more open to third parties than GOP, thus allowing third parties to take more votes from Dems than GOP. They may take enough votes to swing states like PA, WI, MI, and GA to hand Trump the election.

Also no problem, anytime!

Cornel West’s campaign was already getting a lot of attention when you first posted your predictions. Why wasn’t Trump favored then?

Because I haven't heard about him at the time.
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« Reply #70 on: September 22, 2023, 06:10:49 PM »

West  has been getting  a lot  of  media attention  lately

What?

Cornel West’s campaign  was  already  getting  a lot  of  attention, dating back to  the time  by which  you'd already posted  your predictions.

WHAT?


Thus  perfectly proving  my point!
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« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2023, 10:23:39 AM »

- Alaska R+6
- Iowa R+7
- Ohio R+6
- Maine's second congressional district R+5
- Texas R+2
- Florida R+11
- North Carolina D+2
- Georgia D+3
- Arizona D+3
- Wisconsin D+4
- Pennsylvania D+5
- Nevada D+5
- Michigan D+7
- Nebraska's second congressional district D+10
- Minnesota D+9
- New Hampshire D+11
- Maine D+12
- Virginia D+11
- New Mexico D+12
- Colorado D+19
- New Jersey D+17
- Oregon D+19
- Illinois D+20
- Delaware D+20
- Washington state D+23
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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2023, 05:13:22 PM »

- Alaska: R + 7
- Iowa R + 9
- Ohio R + 10
- Maine's second congressional district: R + 8
- Texas R + 3
- Florida R + 5
- North Carolina R + 2
- Georgia D + 2
- Arizona D + 2
- Wisconsin D + 0.5
- Pennsylvania D + 1.5
- Nevada D + 0.5
- Michigan D + 2.5
- Nebraska's second congressional district D + 5
- Minnesota D + 8
- New Hampshire D + 4
- Maine D + 7
- Virginia D + 10
- New Mexico D + 8.5
- Colorado D + 16
- New Jersey D + 16
- Oregon D + 13.5
- Illinois D + 17
- Delaware D + 20
- Washington state D + 20
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« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2023, 07:14:49 PM »

- Alaska R+6
- Iowa R+7
- Ohio R+6
- Maine's second congressional district R+5
- Texas R+2
- Florida R+11
- North Carolina D+2
- Georgia D+3
- Arizona D+3
- Wisconsin D+4
- Pennsylvania D+5
- Nevada D+5
- Michigan D+7
- Nebraska's second congressional district D+10
- Minnesota D+9
- New Hampshire D+11
- Maine D+12
- Virginia D+11
- New Mexico D+12
- Colorado D+19
- New Jersey D+17
- Oregon D+19
- Illinois D+20
- Delaware D+20
- Washington state D+23

Why do you think VA will vote to the right of NM and ME-AL, the same way as NH, and only 2 points bluer than MN?

- Alaska: R + 7
- Iowa R + 9
- Ohio R + 10
- Maine's second congressional district: R + 8
- Texas R + 3
- Florida R + 5
- North Carolina R + 2
- Georgia D + 2
- Arizona D + 2
- Wisconsin D + 0.5
- Pennsylvania D + 1.5
- Nevada D + 0.5
- Michigan D + 2.5
- Nebraska's second congressional district D + 5
- Minnesota D + 8
- New Hampshire D + 4
- Maine D + 7
- Virginia D + 10
- New Mexico D + 8.5
- Colorado D + 16
- New Jersey D + 16
- Oregon D + 13.5
- Illinois D + 17
- Delaware D + 20
- Washington state D + 20

Minnesota, more Democratic than Maine? Four points to the left of New Hampshire? Why?
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« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2023, 07:19:17 PM »

- Alaska R+6
- Iowa R+7
- Ohio R+6
- Maine's second congressional district R+5
- Texas R+2
- Florida R+11
- North Carolina D+2
- Georgia D+3
- Arizona D+3
- Wisconsin D+4
- Pennsylvania D+5
- Nevada D+5
- Michigan D+7
- Nebraska's second congressional district D+10
- Minnesota D+9
- New Hampshire D+11
- Maine D+12
- Virginia D+11
- New Mexico D+12
- Colorado D+19
- New Jersey D+17
- Oregon D+19
- Illinois D+20
- Delaware D+20
- Washington state D+23

Why do you think VA will vote to the right of NM and ME-AL, the same way as NH, and only 2 points bluer than MN?

- Alaska: R + 7
- Iowa R + 9
- Ohio R + 10
- Maine's second congressional district: R + 8
- Texas R + 3
- Florida R + 5
- North Carolina R + 2
- Georgia D + 2
- Arizona D + 2
- Wisconsin D + 0.5
- Pennsylvania D + 1.5
- Nevada D + 0.5
- Michigan D + 2.5
- Nebraska's second congressional district D + 5
- Minnesota D + 8
- New Hampshire D + 4
- Maine D + 7
- Virginia D + 10
- New Mexico D + 8.5
- Colorado D + 16
- New Jersey D + 16
- Oregon D + 13.5
- Illinois D + 17
- Delaware D + 20
- Washington state D + 20

Minnesota, more Democratic than Maine? Four points to the left of New Hampshire? Why?
NH and ME tend to have anti-incumbent streaks at the presidential level
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