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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: June 29, 2023, 08:56:31 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2023, 09:48:11 AM »

Come on, who are the "no" voters?
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2023, 10:12:33 AM »

SirWoodbury, jaichind, and Red Velvet
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2023, 02:18:03 PM »

Gonna take a bold stance and say everyone should not commit war crimes in general.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2023, 02:37:46 PM »

I am sure they will do so around the same time I stop beating my wife
this comment only makes sense if Russia wasn't committing war crimes, otherwise, it kind of implies you do beat your wife.  And since Russia actually is committing war crimes....
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2023, 02:46:30 PM »

Yes. And they should also just pack up and leave Ukraine to go deal with the bald dwarf that sent them there.

Also 4 no’s? Shame on you Woody, global south guy, Psol, and economic wall of text guy
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2023, 04:14:40 PM »

Define "should." From a moral standpoint, they should, but they're not interested in morality. If it helps win them the war, that's what they'll do, even if it's a war crime.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2023, 05:06:06 PM »

Al is making some point about inane threads posting inane questions.

From whose perspective would be helpful, but help is the last thing Al wanted to proffer.

Anyway, I give my proxy to Zelinsky. Maybe he thinks the war crimes are the key to the ordinance he needs, given that "the West" remains still somewhat challenged on this issue.

TL:DR: Whatever is in Ukraine's best interest going forward.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2023, 05:34:57 PM »

I am sure they will do so around the same time I stop beating my wife

So, never?
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2023, 05:47:33 PM »


Is that really an appropriate joke to make?
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2023, 05:50:59 PM »


Is that really an appropriate joke to make?

Yes, I think it's entirely appropriate to point out the dark implications of the post that smacked of war crimes denial.
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2023, 05:51:21 PM »

Yes. And they should also just pack up and leave Ukraine to go deal with the bald dwarf that sent them there.

Also 4 no’s? Shame on you Woody, global south guy, Psol, and economic wall of text guy
Your obsession is very unhealthy. This is the first time I’m entering this thread.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2023, 06:01:18 PM »

On the one hand, yes, because I’m not a ghoul.

On the other hand, committing war crimes seems to be the one thing the Russian military is consistently good at, so who’s to say?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2023, 06:54:57 PM »

Umm, is this supposed to be an “own”? Because the AFU was committing war crimes in Donbas long before the start of the SMO…
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2023, 07:23:01 PM »

Umm, is this supposed to be an “own”? Because the AFU was committing war crimes in Donbas long before the start of the SMO…

...such as?

Also, what is "SMO"?
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2023, 07:27:36 PM »

Umm, is this supposed to be an “own”? Because the AFU was committing war crimes in Donbas long before the start of the SMO…

...such as?

Also, what is "SMO"?

Special Military Operation, Russia's way of trying to call their war something other than a war.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2023, 02:05:25 AM »

Bloody Russian GMO.
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2023, 02:39:56 AM »

I'm surprised jaichind has a wife at all
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2023, 07:21:59 AM »

Umm, is this supposed to be an “own”? Because the AFU was committing war crimes in Donbas long before the start of the SMO…

You own yourself by supporting child abduction.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2023, 07:37:19 AM »

Umm, is this supposed to be an “own”? Because the AFU was committing war crimes in Donbas long before the start of the SMO…

'And you are lynching negroes!'
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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2023, 08:47:00 AM »

Umm, is this supposed to be an “own”? Because the AFU was committing war crimes in Donbas long before the start of the SMO…
lets say your whataboutism is true, can you still answer the question?  Do you think Russia should continue to commit war crimes?  For how long?  If Russia shoots another 100 missiles at apartment buildings, would that be enough to make it "even" for the war crimes you are suggesting Ukraine committed in, ahem, Ukraine?  Does Russia get no blame from you for starting this whole thing 9 years ago or do you just hand wave that away or worse, come up with some fantastical reason Russia simply had to invade?  Bonus points if you answer that question without mentioning Iraq.

I appreciate that you have an impossible task here, defending Russia in 2023 is an epic challenge.  So feel free to hide under your bed (like children all across Ukraine have had to do many times over the last year and a half) and not answer this questions.
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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2023, 01:18:04 PM »

Umm, is this supposed to be an “own”? Because the AFU was committing war crimes in Donbas long before the start of the SMO…

'And you are lynching negroes!'

Now I’m imagining slaveowners in the US c. 1850 responding to the condemnations of abolitionists in Britain and New England by concern trolling about the plight of the Irish.
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2023, 11:11:42 PM »

Anyway Jaichind doesn't deserve such insults. Erroneous political views don't mean that a person is bad in all aspects.
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« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2023, 02:26:18 AM »

Anyway Jaichind doesn't deserve such insults. Erroneous political views don't mean that a person is bad in all aspects.

Normally true, though he has a history of saying stuff that makes him look evil (such as admitting that the only reason he doesn't invest in child prostitution is because it's illegal).
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« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2023, 05:47:26 AM »

Yes. And they should also just pack up and leave Ukraine to go deal with the bald dwarf that sent them there.

Also 4 no’s? Shame on you Woody, global south guy, Psol, and economic wall of text guy

Tbf to PSOL he isn't really pro-Russia - if they were genuine Stalinists he might be, though Wink
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