2023 Guatemala General Elections - June 25th (2nd Round: August 20th)
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H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
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« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2023, 07:35:02 PM »

Each new acta procesada is better and better for Arévalo, but these are also heavily urban votes.
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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2023, 07:50:24 PM »

33.60% counted: (Valid votes only)

59.34% Bernardo Arévalo
40.66% Sandra Torres
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« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2023, 08:09:05 PM »

Sandra joins the Keiko Fujimori club of serial losing girlbosses.
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2023, 08:14:16 PM »
« Edited: August 20, 2023, 08:20:33 PM by H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY »

Sandra joins the Keiko Fujimori club of serial losing girlbosses.

Keiko will hand off the Álvaro Noboa Memorial Award, given with increasing frequency for losing three runoff elections in a row, to her.
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2023, 08:21:15 PM »

Also the difference is now mathematically impossible for Torres to make up, with the count not even having reached 80%. Spring has sprung!
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« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2023, 08:23:28 PM »

Sandra joins the Keiko Fujimori club of serial losing girlbosses.

Keiko will hand off the Álvaro Noboa Memorial Award, given with increasing frequency for losing three runoff elections in a row, to her.

Does she has a son who may win a few decades?
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« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2023, 08:24:02 PM »

At this rate, in 2027 Sandra Torres will lose by 15% to Suddenly Came to Life Maya Temple Stone (Partida Granda Piedra).
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« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2023, 08:35:23 PM »

The reaction to the new president will be interesting. There is a high chance he may be impeached within a year or two in office.
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« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2023, 08:42:23 PM »

Reading up on the President-elect and holy sh**t he's based:


Congrats to Guatemala on electing the right guy.
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« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2023, 12:30:31 PM »
« Edited: August 21, 2023, 12:34:14 PM by Hash »



Results map by municipality from Twitter user @ElenoAM (full size here)

Arévalo again absolutely dominated the urban areas: 79.6% in Guatemala City, 74.9% in Guatemala department, 82.4% in Sacatepéquez department, 69% in Chimaltenango department and 68.8% in Quetzaltenango department. But he won all but five departments (Petén, Izabal, Quiché, Zacapa and Alta Verapaz -- which are among the poorest departments in the country).

Worth noting that turnout was low: 45%, compared to 60% in the first round, but keeping in mind that the first round had a huge number of blank and invalid votes (24% of all votes). The number of valid votes was about 200k lower than in the first round (4 million vs. 4.2 million). Torres gained only 685,000 votes whereas Arévalo gained 1.78 million (in 2019 Torres gained just 270k votes between the two rounds).

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Turns out that a far-right homophobic/conspiranoid campaign based on the message "we're ignorant and that's the richness of our culture!" is not a winning one.

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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2023, 01:51:20 PM »

Saw a news story with some person-on-the-street interviews, and most people seem curious and cautiously optimistic about Arevalo. "He's not a politician" gives him the 'outsider' cred, while the "son of a former president" gives him 'we know what we're getting into' vibes at the same time. At least, that's how one of the guys on the street seemed to feel about it.
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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2023, 05:06:11 PM »

Yesterday, Arévalo was proclaimed President Elect by the Electoral Court (TSE), but at the same time, the Citizens Registry of the said TSE suspended the registration of Movimiento Semilla (Arévalo's party). Since the results of the second round were known, Torres's UNE has not recognized Areválo's victory and has affirmed that there was "fraud" in the process.
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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2023, 10:57:22 PM »

If Arevalo lasts a full term, I could see his party winning a majority of parliament next election.
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« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2023, 02:40:46 AM »

If Arevalo lasts a full term, I could see his party winning a majority of parliament next election.

Does the Guatemalan president actually have the power to do some things on their own, or would they be a lame duck facing a hostile media with a dwindling pool supporters angry that nothing has changed?
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« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2023, 09:44:02 AM »

If Arevalo lasts a full term, I could see his party winning a majority of parliament next election.

Does the Guatemalan president actually have the power to do some things on their own, or would they be a lame duck facing a hostile media with a dwindling pool supporters angry that nothing has changed?

Well, given that its obviously not just a ceremonial post the answer to that surely has to be "yes"?
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« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2023, 08:28:46 PM »

Update: The TSE overturns the suspension of Movimiento Semilla' party register until the proper end of the electoral process at late October, as according to Guatemalan' Electoral Law, they cannot suspend o cancel political parties during election period.
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« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2023, 08:56:53 PM »

Semilla will be having good results for at least a decade now. They can showcase how they are the most popular enemy of the deep state
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« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2023, 05:08:13 PM »

A very concerning update... and a potential coup happening as well.
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« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2023, 05:25:44 PM »

Unlike the state of Bolivia, there’s an added drag that the civil service and army are more pro-deep state. It’s going to be a hard battle to wrestle control to freedom, but it must be done.
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« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2023, 06:06:39 PM »

Unlike the state of Bolivia, there’s an added drag that the civil service and army are more pro-deep state. It’s going to be a hard battle to wrestle control to freedom, but it must be done.

Can't we just have the CIA empty a few bullets into Maria Porras (the extremely corrupt Attorney General)?
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2023, 06:31:37 PM »

Unlike the state of Bolivia, there’s an added drag that the civil service and army are more pro-deep state. It’s going to be a hard battle to wrestle control to freedom, but it must be done.

Can't we just have the CIA empty a few bullets into Maria Porras (the extremely corrupt Attorney General)?
The US government backed the conservatives over the liberals in 2009, you tell me
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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2023, 08:33:00 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/oas-condemns-attempted-coup-guatemala-2023-12-08/

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Guatemala's President-elect Bernardo Arevalo on Friday forcefully rejected a legal maneuver from prosecutors to invalidate his election triumph, calling the effort an "attempted coup."

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At a press conference on Friday, Arevalo blasted the allegations as "absurd, ridiculous and perverse," and vowed to take office as scheduled on Jan. 14.

"This attempted coup is real and it has brought us to a crucial moment," said Arevalo, who cruised to a landslide victory in the August run-off vote, besting an establishment-friendly candidate.
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« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2023, 03:57:57 AM »

Has the OAN commented at all? There should be unequivocal support for Arevalo for anyone in the Americas and abroad who does value the democratic process, especially in fragile emerging democracies like Guatemala.

Sad days ahead if they get away with this.
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« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2023, 09:30:52 AM »

Has the OAN commented at all? There should be unequivocal support for Arevalo for anyone in the Americas and abroad who does value the democratic process, especially in fragile emerging democracies like Guatemala.

Sad days ahead if they get away with this.

https://www.oas.org/en/media_center/press_release.asp?sCodigo=E-084/23
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« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2023, 06:37:47 PM »

Arevalo is the rightfully elected president of Guatemala, and certainly the most pro-human of the other possible choices.

Mad respect to the Guatemalan people out on the street against these awful elites.
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