Steep decline in GOP's views on banks & corporations; Dems' views remain consistently negative

[Ferguson97]

Democrats have remained basically unchanged in their negative views on large corporations and banks since 2019. Republicans, however, have significantly changed their views in the past three years, moving from a clear majority approval to being basically aligned with the Democrats.

Tech companies are slightly different in that Democrats and Republicans had equally positive favorable views of them in 2019. Republicans' views have declined, while Democrats views are completely unchanged; so now there's a gap.

[Stranger in a strange land]

GOP: Down with Big Tech! Down with Wall Street! Down with Woke Corporations!
Voters: Cool! So are you going to make them pay higher taxes?
GOP: What?! Absolutely not!
Voters: So are you going to draft new consumer protection laws and enforce anti-monopoly laws?
GOP: Dear God No!!!
Voters: How about raising the minimum wage and mandatory maternity leave?
GOP: What, are you crazy? That would be SOCIALISM!!!
Voters: So what ARE you going to do?
GOP: Complain about them on Twitter of course!!!!

[Landslide Lyndon]

GOP: Down with Big Tech! Down with Wall Street! Down with Woke Corporations!
Voters: Cool! So are you going to make them pay higher taxes?
GOP: What?! Absolutely not!
Voters: So are you going to draft new consumer protection laws and enforce anti-monopoly laws?
GOP: Dear God No!!!
Voters: How about raising the minimum wage and mandatory maternity leave?
GOP: What, are you crazy? That would be SOCIALISM!!!
Voters: So what ARE you going to do?
GOP: Complain about them on Twitter of course!!!!

Post of the Year.

[OSR stands with Israel]

GOP: Down with Big Tech! Down with Wall Street! Down with Woke Corporations!
Voters: Cool! So are you going to make them pay higher taxes?
GOP: What?! Absolutely not!
Voters: So are you going to draft new consumer protection laws and enforce anti-monopoly laws?
GOP: Dear God No!!!
Voters: How about raising the minimum wage and mandatory maternity leave?
GOP: What, are you crazy? That would be SOCIALISM!!!
Voters: So what ARE you going to do?
GOP: Complain about them on Twitter of course!!!!

I would agree with tougher anti trust laws and paid maternity leave but policies such as raising corporate taxes, and making union bosses stronger would do more harm than help so I oppose them. 

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Democrats hate corporations for sapping the life out of American workers

Republicans hate corporations for *checks notes* not hating trans people enough

[OSR stands with Israel]

Democrats hate corporations for sapping the life out of American workers

Republicans hate corporations for *checks notes* not hating trans people enough

Reagan's economic policies were good for the average American. It is far better to be a middle class American today than it was in 1979

[Asta]

I notice that Democrats opinions are based on principles (hence tend to stay the same) and Republicans' opinions are based on resentment and partisanship.

Remember when Republicans favored wars when Bush was president, but opposed the wars when Obama was president?

[RINO Tom]

I notice that Democrats opinions are based on principles (hence tend to stay the same) and Republicans' opinions are based on resentment and partisanship.

Remember when Republicans favored wars when Bush was president, but opposed the wars when Obama was president?

Your "principles" are resentment and envy of successful businesses, businessmen, businesswomen and those who generally thrive in the free market.  Your "partisanship" is tied to this at the hip.

You can say you have the most egalitarian motives of all-time for your economic views, but given how callously your voters talk about those with differing cultural views, I'm more inclined to think it stems from envy.

[DaleCooper]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

[RINO Tom]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

This is also a hilarious example of how their views aren't shining examples of principles whereas Republican voters are just idiots in comparison.  You should have at LEAST as suspicious of an attitude of Big Tech as you do of Wall Street if you are inclined to think that way anyway ... but the fact is your average Democratic hack sees Big Tech as "on our side."

[Crumpets]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

This is for sure informed by my growing up in Seattle with a parent who worked at Microsoft, but I don't think of "tech companies" and "social media" as the same at all. "Tech companies" makes me think of Intel, IBM, Google, Apple, etc. And yes, Meta is one of those, but it wouldn't be the first thing that comes to my mind. So I'd probably answer that I approve of tech companies, but only because I'd assume social media companies were a different question.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

This is also a hilarious example of how their views aren't shining examples of principles whereas Republican voters are just idiots in comparison.  You should have at LEAST as suspicious of an attitude of Big Tech as you do of Wall Street if you are inclined to think that way anyway ... but the fact is your average Democratic hack sees Big Tech as "on our side."

The difference is of course that Big Tech actually makes stuff while Wall Street is just trading hot air.

[RINO Tom]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

This is also a hilarious example of how their views aren't shining examples of principles whereas Republican voters are just idiots in comparison.  You should have at LEAST as suspicious of an attitude of Big Tech as you do of Wall Street if you are inclined to think that way anyway ... but the fact is your average Democratic hack sees Big Tech as "on our side."

The difference is of course that Big Tech actually makes stuff while Wall Street is just trading hot air.

For all of your faults, I do not think you are dumb enough to believe that, haha.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

This is also a hilarious example of how their views aren't shining examples of principles whereas Republican voters are just idiots in comparison.  You should have at LEAST as suspicious of an attitude of Big Tech as you do of Wall Street if you are inclined to think that way anyway ... but the fact is your average Democratic hack sees Big Tech as "on our side."

The difference is of course that Big Tech actually makes stuff while Wall Street is just trading hot air.

lol

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

The tech industry encompasses a lot of things beyond just social media.

[DaleCooper]

Absolutely pathetic that big tech has a majority approval from Democrats. Trump never would've made it past Iowa if not for the social media industry.

The tech industry encompasses a lot of things beyond just social media.

It's all intertwined. Microsoft, for example, pushes clickbait fake news onto all of its devices, and all of them steal and sell their customers' data.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

GOP: Down with Big Tech! Down with Wall Street! Down with Woke Corporations!
Voters: Cool! So are you going to make them pay higher taxes?
GOP: What?! Absolutely not!
Voters: So are you going to draft new consumer protection laws and enforce anti-monopoly laws?
GOP: Dear God No!!!
Voters: How about raising the minimum wage and mandatory maternity leave?
GOP: What, are you crazy? That would be SOCIALISM!!!
Voters: So what ARE you going to do?
GOP: Complain about them on Twitter of course!!!!

Reporter: So who are you going to vote for?
GOP voter: The multibillionare CEO, of course!

[Indy Texas]

The GOP's "ideal" business is a privately-held family-owned-and-operated firm that provides some sort of "physical" good or service (ex. manufacturing, natural resource extraction, agriculture, car dealerships, restaurants, owning real estate).

This is as opposed to either an extremely large public company that is largely held by index funds and pension funds and run by "professional" managers; or some sort of firm that provides "intangible" things primarily involving educated experts, such as law firms, medical clinics, software companies, and other "professional services" firms, or "creative" firms such as journalistic outlets, design firms or TV/film production. 

The private family firms are the ones most resistant to government regulation (having the least wherewithal to pass the costs on to their customers and having more of a personal stake in opposing them than a professional executive with no "blood" connection to the enterprise), the least meritocratic (the family will always run the company, the rank and file will "know their place" and no "outsiders" will come in and mess with the way things are), and by extension the least "woke" (they have no external shareholders to please with ESG metrics, they have no professional HR/DEI staff working on those initiatives, and these firms often operate like little feudal baronies where the family's conservative values are imposed on the business).

[S019]

I notice that Democrats opinions are based on principles (hence tend to stay the same) and Republicans' opinions are based on resentment and partisanship.

Remember when Republicans favored wars when Bush was president, but opposed the wars when Obama was president?

Your "principles" are resentment and envy of successful businesses, businessmen, businesswomen and those who generally thrive in the free market.  Your "partisanship" is tied to this at the hip.

This isn't true and this misconception has gone too far. Democrats support a free market and we all benefit when business does well because the economy grows. There is this attempt among Republicans to erase moderate Democrats to convince the public that the average person in the party is Bernie Sanders, rather than the fact that Bernie Sanders is a fringe figure who only got as far as he did because he benefitted from a ton of protest votes in 2016. (look at 2020 to see what his actual base was, or are we going to just imagine there are tons of Sanders/Biden voters in Oklahoma for reasons)

You can say you have the most egalitarian motives of all-time for your economic views, but given how callously your voters talk about those with differing cultural views, I'm more inclined to think it stems from envy.

Ultimately, egalitarianism isn't really the right approach here. Democrats want to provide equality of opportunity, in other words give people the tools to succeed so that they too can contribute to the economy. On the note of those with "differing cultural views," populism is noxious and poisonous, I'm not afraid to say it. Populism seeks to find easy scapegoats, whether big business for left-wing populists or immigrants for right wing populists, and claims that these scapegoats are the source for all of society's problems and everything will be magically fixed if they go away. This is not, and nor has it ever been, a serious way of governing. The rhetoric around populism is often quite dangerous rhetoric too, and we have seen with our own eyes what happens when it gets too far.

[Dr. MB]

I notice that Democrats opinions are based on principles (hence tend to stay the same) and Republicans' opinions are based on resentment and partisanship.

Remember when Republicans favored wars when Bush was president, but opposed the wars when Obama was president?

Your "principles" are resentment and envy of successful businesses, businessmen, businesswomen and those who generally thrive in the free market.  Your "partisanship" is tied to this at the hip.

This isn't true and this misconception has gone too far. Democrats support a free market and we all benefit when business does well because the economy grows. There is this attempt among Republicans to erase moderate Democrats to convince the public that the average person in the party is Bernie Sanders, rather than the fact that Bernie Sanders is a fringe figure who only got as far as he did because he benefitted from a ton of protest votes in 2016. (look at 2020 to see what his actual base was, or are we going to just imagine there are tons of Sanders/Biden voters in Oklahoma for reasons)

You can say you have the most egalitarian motives of all-time for your economic views, but given how callously your voters talk about those with differing cultural views, I'm more inclined to think it stems from envy.

Ultimately, egalitarianism isn't really the right approach here. Democrats want to provide equality of opportunity, in other words give people the tools to succeed so that they too can contribute to the economy. On the note of those with "differing cultural views," populism is noxious and poisonous, I'm not afraid to say it. Populism seeks to find easy scapegoats, whether big business for left-wing populists or immigrants for right wing populists, and claims that these scapegoats are the source for all of society's problems and everything will be magically fixed if they go away. This is not, and nor has it ever been, a serious way of governing. The rhetoric around populism is often quite dangerous rhetoric too, and we have seen with our own eyes what happens when it gets too far.

You mean the people who own the businesses benefit off the labor of the people who do the work for them? Temporary improvements in living conditions/income/etc (I say temporary because recession could strike and all those gains could be washed away at any time) don’t offset the class dynamic.

Also Bernie was sitting at a solid 30% or so of the popular vote before he dropped out. Biden at 35%. You can’t call that “fringe”.

[kelestian]

I suspect on issues like that (or school meals) average GOP politician is mikes away from average GOP voter.

[Dr. MB]

I notice that Democrats opinions are based on principles (hence tend to stay the same) and Republicans' opinions are based on resentment and partisanship.

Remember when Republicans favored wars when Bush was president, but opposed the wars when Obama was president?

Your "principles" are resentment and envy of successful businesses, businessmen, businesswomen and those who generally thrive in the free market.  Your "partisanship" is tied to this at the hip.

You can say you have the most egalitarian motives of all-time for your economic views, but given how callously your voters talk about those with differing cultural views, I'm more inclined to think it stems from envy.

Are prisoners envious of the prison guards?

Being jealous that your position in society is relatively powerless compared to “successful” people is pretty natural. It doesn’t justify their actions or answer the question as to why the system we have in place, where so many people are struggling and do feel that jealousy when they get a glimpse of the luxury enjoyed by the people who profit off of their labor, is the system we should stick with and actively participate in. If you put the average working class person in charge of a Fortune 500 company they probably wouldn’t act much differently than most CEOs. As your class position changes your material interests change, and capitalism forces people to act in unnatural and unethical ways in order to survive in it. It doesn’t have to be this way.

[Ferguson97]

I suspect on issues like that (or school meals) average GOP politician is mikes away from average GOP voter.

I remember seeing some data that showed that GOP politicians/donors are significantly more conservative on economic issues and significantly more liberal on social issues compared to the average GOP voter.

With Democrats, donors were basically aligned with voters on economic issues, but slightly more liberal on social issues.

[S019]

I notice that Democrats opinions are based on principles (hence tend to stay the same) and Republicans' opinions are based on resentment and partisanship.

Remember when Republicans favored wars when Bush was president, but opposed the wars when Obama was president?

Your "principles" are resentment and envy of successful businesses, businessmen, businesswomen and those who generally thrive in the free market.  Your "partisanship" is tied to this at the hip.

This isn't true and this misconception has gone too far. Democrats support a free market and we all benefit when business does well because the economy grows. There is this attempt among Republicans to erase moderate Democrats to convince the public that the average person in the party is Bernie Sanders, rather than the fact that Bernie Sanders is a fringe figure who only got as far as he did because he benefitted from a ton of protest votes in 2016. (look at 2020 to see what his actual base was, or are we going to just imagine there are tons of Sanders/Biden voters in Oklahoma for reasons)

You can say you have the most egalitarian motives of all-time for your economic views, but given how callously your voters talk about those with differing cultural views, I'm more inclined to think it stems from envy.

Ultimately, egalitarianism isn't really the right approach here. Democrats want to provide equality of opportunity, in other words give people the tools to succeed so that they too can contribute to the economy. On the note of those with "differing cultural views," populism is noxious and poisonous, I'm not afraid to say it. Populism seeks to find easy scapegoats, whether big business for left-wing populists or immigrants for right wing populists, and claims that these scapegoats are the source for all of society's problems and everything will be magically fixed if they go away. This is not, and nor has it ever been, a serious way of governing. The rhetoric around populism is often quite dangerous rhetoric too, and we have seen with our own eyes what happens when it gets too far.

You mean the people who own the businesses benefit off the labor of the people who do the work for them? Temporary improvements in living conditions/income/etc (I say temporary because recession could strike and all those gains could be washed away at any time) don’t offset the class dynamic.

I do not and have never believed in "class dynamic." It is also largely irrelevant and outdated today.

Also Bernie was sitting at a solid 30% or so of the popular vote before he dropped out. Biden at 35%. You can’t call that “fringe”.

That is 70% who didn't vote for him and he was so terrible at reaching out to that 70% that he made supporters of ideologically similar candidates hate him.

[Badger]

I notice that Democrats opinions are based on principles (hence tend to stay the same) and Republicans' opinions are based on resentment and partisanship.

Remember when Republicans favored wars when Bush was president, but opposed the wars when Obama was president?

Your "principles" are resentment and envy of successful businesses, businessmen, businesswomen and those who generally thrive in the free market.  Your "partisanship" is tied to this at the hip.

You can say you have the most egalitarian motives of all-time for your economic views, but given how callously your voters talk about those with differing cultural views, I'm more inclined to think it stems from envy.

Allow me to insert a badly needed reality check.

Democrats hate corporations for sapping the life out of American workers

Republicans hate corporations for *checks notes* not hating trans people enough