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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2023, 04:00:44 AM »

Kind of makes sense, dramatically, that he dies with the Second Republic. (Fwiw do Italians now speak of the modern era as the Third Republic? There was never such a decisive moment as that election where DCI and co all met their maker, but the current era is clearly a completely different universe than the Second Republic.)

The idea that we are entering a Third Republic has been a thing since at least 2013 (possibly before, but my memory is imperfect), but ironically I think this has fizzled out in recent years. I struggle to remember when was the last time the term appeared in a conversation I had, and I have political conversations quite often. I won't be surprised if this debate achieves renewed prominence now as a result of Berlusconi's death however.
2013 is a good mark when Italian politics were between anti ane pro-Berlusconi camps and he was top dog in Italian right.

2013 was the election that started to unravel the Second party system, but I actually think we are swinging back towards it now. Not the in parties or personalities of course, but in the polar electoral dynamics (though this will depend a lot on the oppositions' antics).
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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2023, 06:09:57 AM »

Johnson's prototype, and no that is absolutely not a compliment.

I'd more view Johnson as being a cheap and lousy imitator at best, completely lacking the original's talent and flair.
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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2023, 11:58:52 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2023, 04:06:48 PM »

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