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« on: June 11, 2023, 12:16:56 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/desantis-gets-oklahoma-governors-endorsement-tulsa-appearance-rcna88720

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Republican Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt endorsed his Florida counterpart, Gov. Ron DeSantis, in the 2024 presidential election as the GOP candidate spoke in Tulsa on Saturday.

DeSantis, a runner-up to former President Donald Trump in most polls of Republican voters, is campaigning uphill, with daily attacks from Trump serving as headwinds.

Stitt, introducing DeSantis at a special event in Tulsa hosted by the political action committee Never Back Down, said the Floridian is in step with fellow Republicans while maintaining a steady hand amid pandemic and political tumult.

"DeSantis did not surrender states’ rights and individual liberties over to groupthink," Stitt said. "In this election cycle, Oklahomans will remember that DeSantis was one of the few who never backed down."

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2023, 11:37:19 AM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th


Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2023, 11:55:12 AM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th

Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

Wow, he's getting the endorsement from the guy who was so unpopular within his own party that they literally had to cancel the primary so he could be the nominee.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2023, 11:56:44 AM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th


Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

I hope DeSantis wins the nomination now he is losing worse than Trump I might vote for DeSantis in the IL primary he is losing by 7 pts.

Biden is now sending out Donations cards to us Ds because he thinks DeSantis gonna win the nomination and they say vote Biden over DeSantis he is no moderate he is Mitt Romney, Romney voted to convict Trump but he blocked Voting Rights
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2023, 11:57:27 AM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th


Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

To some extent, I wonder if endorsements might actually be a negative for DeSantis if Republican voters feel like "the establishment" is trying to force DeSantis upon them. Mind you Youngkin and especially Stitt aren't exactly the Republican's base favourite politicians in general.

Feel like a large part of Trump's appeal to voters (even today) is being anti-establishment and winning even when it seems like the entire political system is against him. Having all these "establishment" Republican politicians endorsing DeSantis might re-inforce this belief for many. One could also argue those voters were never going to be swayable in a primary anyways.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2023, 11:58:53 AM »
« Edited: June 15, 2023, 12:02:46 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

DeSantis Mitt Romney no different, he was friends with Speaker Ryan in the H and voted for 20 percentage pts tax cuts if I was Biden I would run ads promoting DeSantis not Trump which he is doing now, promoting Trump

DeSantis doesn't have Natl Approvals like he has in FL that 2016 makes his mistake his latest Natl favs are 33 percentage whereas in FL it was 59 in IAN

The reason why Rs will lose a landslide because it's 4 percentage pts unemployment like in FL that's why DeSantis won
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2023, 12:31:17 PM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th


Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

To some extent, I wonder if endorsements might actually be a negative for DeSantis if Republican voters feel like "the establishment" is trying to force DeSantis upon them. Mind you Youngkin and especially Stitt aren't exactly the Republican's base favourite politicians in general.

Feel like a large part of Trump's appeal to voters (even today) is being anti-establishment and winning even when it seems like the entire political system is against him. Having all these "establishment" Republican politicians endorsing DeSantis might re-inforce this belief for many. One could also argue those voters were never going to be swayable in a primary anyways.
C'mon on, don't give me that crap! Trump is endorsed by Rep. Elise Stefanik and NRSC Chair Steve Daines. Who is more Establishment then?
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2023, 12:47:18 PM »
« Edited: June 15, 2023, 12:51:19 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

Wasn't Stefanic was supposed to after they fired Liz Cheney get females not just in red states but in blue states like she is from.NY to vote R like they did during Bush W she isnt relevant anyways just like YOUNGKIN was relevant in VA until Trump is down 16 pts now he dropped out Prez and not likely a Veep, Rs are gonna lose their H majority Greene, Kean Jr Brobert, Garcia, Lawler, Santos are Gone


Franky CARRILLO is raising lots of cash against Garcia

DeSantis is down 7 in a Suffolk Poll , I don't care what his POS poll gave him at DeSantis is losing worse than Trump

She called Pelosi a Lame Duck Speaker, Jeffries is calling Mccarthy a lame duck Speaker
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2023, 03:37:56 PM »

Trump is endorsed by way more governors, Senators, and House members than he was in the 2016 primary
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2023, 06:04:28 PM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th

Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

Wow, he's getting the endorsement from the guy who was so unpopular within his own party that they literally had to cancel the primary so he could be the nominee.

Youngkin would have likely won the primary but don't let the truth get in the way of the narrative.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2023, 06:06:12 PM »

Trump is endorsed by way more governors, Senators, and House members than he was in the 2016 primary
He is a former president, of course he'd have way more endorsements than he had when he was the ultimate outsider.
Not sure what you mean here.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2023, 06:39:37 PM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th


Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

Why are they waiting until after the primary? It seems they're afraid a formal endorsement will hurt their chances of winning.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2023, 06:42:53 PM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th

Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

Wow, he's getting the endorsement from the guy who was so unpopular within his own party that they literally had to cancel the primary so he could be the nominee.

Youngkin would have likely won the primary but don't let the truth get in the way of the narrative.

If Youngkin would have won the primary, why did the VA GOP cancel it?
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2023, 06:55:14 PM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th

Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

Wow, he's getting the endorsement from the guy who was so unpopular within his own party that they literally had to cancel the primary so he could be the nominee.

Youngkin wasn’t well known at all until he got the nomination and the general election campaign . A lot of state primaries are based on name recognition and he had pretty bad name recognition until his campaign in the fall .

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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2023, 11:01:04 PM »

Trump is endorsed by way more governors, Senators, and House members than he was in the 2016 primary
He is a former president, of course he'd have way more endorsements than he had when he was the ultimate outsider.
Not sure what you mean here.

Gets in a much stronger spot than he was in 2016. It isn’t even close either. Cruz at least kept it respectably close.
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2023, 11:11:00 PM »

If this is true at all this is very big for DeSantis...

VA Governor Youngkin, Lt. Governor Sears and Attorney General Miyares are set to endorse the Florida Governor shortly after the VA Legislative Primaries on June 20th

Don't get my wrong, the Stitt Endorsement was nice BUT getting the 3 VA Statewide Officeholders all at once and them acting as Top Surrogates in IA, NH and SC is monumental.

Wow, he's getting the endorsement from the guy who was so unpopular within his own party that they literally had to cancel the primary so he could be the nominee.

Youngkin wasn’t well known at all until he got the nomination and the general election campaign . A lot of state primaries are based on name recognition and he had pretty bad name recognition until his campaign in the fall .

So the solution is to cancel the primary since he's bad at convincing Republicans to vote for him?
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2023, 11:17:58 PM »

Primaries tend to mean candidates have to focus on winning over their base and are encouraged to say stuff that would hurt them in the general election. So just because someone would win a primary doesn't mean they should want to have one.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2023, 09:12:15 AM »

Glenn Youngkin is our man for 2028, we need to get Trump out in 2024 and go into damage control mode for DeSantis, keep the house and try flipping the senate. The WH isn't ours to take, best we can do is knee cap Biden until 2029 and hope the old geezer doesn't sh1t the bed.
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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2023, 12:23:56 AM »

Glenn Youngkin is our man for 2028, we need to get Trump out in 2024 and go into damage control mode for DeSantis, keep the house and try flipping the senate. The WH isn't ours to take, best we can do is knee cap Biden until 2029 and hope the old geezer doesn't sh1t the bed.

Do you think someone like Youngkin would be able to win a national primary? Mind you, Youngkin won because of the convention system -- good chance he would've lost if it was up to voters.

I think the struggle in the GOP is having someone that is "anti-establishment" and doesn't care about things such as political correctness is important to a significant chunk of the base, but you also need someone tempered enough to appeal to a general election electorate.
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2023, 07:08:52 PM »

Trump is the only Republican with any influence in the party nationwide, no Republican voter is going to give a flying crap about who is backing anybody else or who might be their surrogates campaigning on their behalf. And that goes for Trump too. They love him and may reward politicians loyal to him, but they aren't going to move votes.
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« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2023, 07:11:02 PM »

DeSantis hates states' rights.
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2023, 04:21:46 PM »

Glenn Youngkin is our man for 2028, we need to get Trump out in 2024 and go into damage control mode for DeSantis, keep the house and try flipping the senate. The WH isn't ours to take, best we can do is knee cap Biden until 2029 and hope the old geezer doesn't sh1t the bed.
Mind you that I still see DeSantis possibly winning the Presidency:

Map 1 (if he picks Sununu as Veep)

He doesn't need MI, PA, WI in this scenario, just has to hold all the States Republicans won in 2020 and pick off AZ (11), GA (16), NV (6) and NH (4, with Sununu as Running Mate).
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Map 2 (if he picks Youngkin as Running Mate)

AZ (11), GA (16) and VA (13)
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Map 3 (Traditional Map)

AZ (11), GA (16) and WI (10)

Bottom Line: DeSantis has multiple paths to the WH while Trump only has ONE PATH and that path looks very shaky.
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2023, 07:19:35 AM »

Well, as we know, endorsements are not worth a thimble full of s*it.




Good, 'cause states do not have any "rights," they have powers.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2023, 08:34:12 AM »

He wont win Southern states thats the bottom line unless Trump is Convicted an indictment means nothing

Users keep posting endorsements and Christie is there in NH to split the vote
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2023, 12:58:24 PM »

Well, as we know, endorsements are not worth a thimble full of s*it.

Saying this over and over doesn't make it true.
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