Trial of OSR (CONVICTED)

[windjammer]

Debates can start

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Can the Senate simply proceed to an immediate vote to declare the defendant guilty? I don't think there is really much to argue here.

[Sirius_]

I believe there is room to argue over whether OSR's actions were enough to be treasonous.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I believe there is room to argue over whether OSR's actions were enough to be treasonous.

While I do think a case for and against should be made and I made that point last night on discord, I will say that while there might be an argument as to whether it constitutes treason, the threshold for impeachment is not necessarily treason either.

Judges have been impeached for various acts of corruption for example.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

I believe there is room to argue over whether OSR's actions were enough to be treasonous.

OSR moved to the South, under the false impression that it was an independent nation, and is essentially a turncoat who pledged his loyalty to a country that doesn't exist. He has been trying to have it both ways in the Senate, declaring that the South is independent but also particpating in some of our votes (which are still counted, because the South is not independent).

This behavior is totally unacceptable for a sitting senator and there needs to be consequences.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

but also particpating in some of our votes (which are still counted, because the South is not independent).

He hasn't voted in the last 10 days basically, only very early on he has introduced your impeachment and objected to a few senate bills being proposed, but since than has participated in "ignoring Atlasia because they consider themselves an independent nation where Atlasia has no juridisiction over".

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Judges have been impeached for various acts of corruption for example.

Was this in-game?

but also particpating in some of our votes (which are still counted, because the South is not independent).

He hasn't voted in the last 10 days basically, only very early on he has introduced your impeachment and objected to a few senate bills being proposed, but since than has participated in "ignoring Atlasia because they consider themselves an independent nation where Atlasia has no juridisiction over".

Regardless, he wanted to have it both ways and that is more justification for a conviction.                               

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Judges have been impeached for various acts of corruption for example.

Was this in-game?

No, but the example should still hold.

Let's say for instance a scenario where OBD and Truman merely tried to steal the election. That wouldn't be "treason" but it would still have been a criminal act and still merited impeachment.

[Joseph Cao]

OBD is also a good person AFAIK, didn't stop him from being impeached for in-game actions!

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Is this a trail with no formal charges?
As there is no glove to fit, I must Acquit.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Motion for a final vote

[Sirius_]

I would prefer if someone did give an overview of the charges before we vote, so I object

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Motion for a final vote

Surely a motion to table would be more appropriate due to the lack of any formal charges.

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

OSR has been ordered to boycott votes by YT and he's complying, so expulsion is probably the better avenue for handling the situation.

[windjammer]

I would prefer if someone did give an overview of the charges before we vote, so I object

Cloture vote,
Please vote Aye or Nay

[West_Midlander]

Nay until the charges are outlined

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Nay until the charges are outlined

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT

A RESOLUTION.

Whereas, the Constitution provides that the Senate “shall have the sole Power to adopt and try Articles of Impeachment” and that civil officers of the Republic of Atlasia  “shall be removed from Office and disqualified from any office under the Republic of Atlasia for a period not exceeding two years" on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors; and

Whereas, Old School Republican, Senator of the Republic of Atlasia, has in fact committed a multitude of high crimes and misdemeanors in blatant disregard to the laws of Atlasia and his oath of office;

Be it resolved, that Old School Republican, Senator of the Republic of Atlasia, is hereby impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and is hereby subject to all constitutional penalties prescribed by the Constitution and that the attached articles of impeachment be exhibited to the Atlasian Senate; and

Be it further resolved that these articles of impeachment exhibited by the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia be in the name of itself and of the people of the Republic of Atlasia, against Old School Republican, Senator of the Republic of Atlasia, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Article 1: ACTS OF TREASON

In his conduct while being Senator of the Republic of Atlasia—and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of Senator of the Republic of Atlasia and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, Old School Republican engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by Abusing The Power of his office by violating SB 2017-065.

On May 15th and 16th, 2023 , Old School Republican endorsed the secessionist movement which is a violation of the secession of the criminal justice act of 2016, it being considered an act of treason.

Here is a link to that endorsement: https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=549125.msg9073723#msg9073723

OSR:

The actions of the Atlasian government in response to this last night was proof that Atlasia is dead and given that they refuse to acknowledge it , I will officially be endorsing the secessionist movement and will be working with them to make secession an official reality . I want to thank YT for helping me quickly find a new residence in Plano , Texas and I look forward to living in my new home .

Thank You , May God Bless you and May God Bless the South

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Aye

[West_Midlander]

Switch to Aye

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Aye

[Sirius_]

Aye

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

Aye

[Joseph Cao]

Aye.

[WD]

Aye

[Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)]

Abstain