LGC 13.18 - Censure S019 Resolution - Passed
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« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2023, 12:02:44 AM »

Wait how is this going to be communicated through the channels?

Objection pending explanation

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« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2023, 01:16:44 AM »

Wait how is this going to be communicated through the channels?

Objection pending explanation

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That's fine, whatever, objection withdrawn
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« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2023, 01:18:41 PM »

Passes as amended by a revised vote of 3-2.

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S019 is urged to repent of his actions. The Speaker is willing to conduct a discord call with him at a mutually agreeable time if that would be helpful in giving him an opportunity to confess and apologize.
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« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2023, 09:23:09 PM »

As the veto was recognized, I do not see how any of this can be considered proper procedure. A vetoed measure cannot then be amended to alter its format. According to the Constitution, the only route in the LGC would have been a veto override vote. Otherwise, this needed to be re-introduced with the requested alterations. More so, votes cannot be changed once a vote has been closed.

This should not be considered passed through legitimate process, however proponents for the censure reserve the right to reintroduce this as a resolution if desired.
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« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2023, 12:13:45 AM »

As the veto was recognized, I do not see how any of this can be considered proper procedure. A vetoed measure cannot then be amended to alter its format. According to the Constitution, the only route in the LGC would have been a veto override vote. Otherwise, this needed to be re-introduced with the requested alterations. More so, votes cannot be changed once a vote has been closed.

This should not be considered passed through legitimate process, however proponents for the censure reserve the right to reintroduce this as a resolution if desired.

You can do anything by unanimous consent, which was achieved above.
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« Reply #55 on: June 05, 2023, 03:37:44 PM »

As the veto was recognized, I do not see how any of this can be considered proper procedure. A vetoed measure cannot then be amended to alter its format. According to the Constitution, the only route in the LGC would have been a veto override vote. Otherwise, this needed to be re-introduced with the requested alterations. More so, votes cannot be changed once a vote has been closed.

This should not be considered passed through legitimate process, however proponents for the censure reserve the right to reintroduce this as a resolution if desired.

You can do anything by unanimous consent, which was achieved above.


1) Unanimous consent does not supercede the Lincoln Constitution.

2) Unanimous consent requires an affirmative vote by all members.
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« Reply #56 on: June 05, 2023, 05:02:38 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2023, 08:46:42 PM by Lincoln Speaker and Senator Dwarven Dragon »

As the veto was recognized, I do not see how any of this can be considered proper procedure. A vetoed measure cannot then be amended to alter its format. According to the Constitution, the only route in the LGC would have been a veto override vote. Otherwise, this needed to be re-introduced with the requested alterations. More so, votes cannot be changed once a vote has been closed.

This should not be considered passed through legitimate process, however proponents for the censure reserve the right to reintroduce this as a resolution if desired.

You can do anything by unanimous consent, which was achieved above.


1) Unanimous consent does not supercede the Lincoln Constitution.

2) Unanimous consent requires an affirmative vote by all members.

The Lincoln Constitution gives the Lincoln General Court sole authority to set its rules and procedures, which would obviously include circumstances in which debate is waived.

The SOAP says:

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B. The presiding officer may unilaterally suspend any section of these rules at any time, unless another Deputy objects.

No objection was raised in a timely fashion after S019 withdrew his.

Any further complaint can be made in a Court of law.
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