Will a vote to expel George Santos succeed or fail?

[Tekken_Guy]

Would a vote to expel George Santos succeed or fail?

[GeorgiaModerate]

The vote will succeed if it comes to the floor, but I'm skeptical that it will come to the floor unless/until Santos is actually convicted.

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

Until Santos becomes a liability to McCarthy’s floor votes, he stays

[NYDem]

Does anyone have a current count on the number of Republicans supporting expulsion?

[Grumpier Than Thou]

The vote will succeed if it comes to the floor, but I'm skeptical that it will come to the floor unless/until Santos is actually convicted.

Until Santos becomes a liability to McCarthy’s floor votes, he stays

Exactly these

[Born to Slay. Forced to Work.]

I will also add that congress members aren’t expelled unless they’re convicted, not charged. Usually they resign before that. There’s only been two expulsions for this reason. The last member expelled after being convicted was Jim Traficant in 2002, and before him was Michael Myers in 1980.

[Zedonathin2020]

Unless he is convicted a vote will never happen, that being said a hypothetical vote would more than likely succeed, he has every single Democrat against him plus a majority of the GOP against him, which likely includes McCarthy (even though he won’t publicly admit it). I give him a month and a half until he’s either flipping burgers at Wendy’s, or serving Chili to his jail mates.

[GALeftist]

Does anyone have a current count on the number of Republicans supporting expulsion?

To my knowledge: Molinaro, LaLota, D'Esposito, Gonzales.

[Tekken_Guy]

Unless he is convicted a vote will never happen, that being said a hypothetical vote would more than likely succeed, he has every single Democrat against him plus a majority of the GOP against him, which likely includes McCarthy (even though he won’t publicly admit it). I give him a month and a half until he’s either flipping burgers at Wendy’s, or serving Chili to his jail mates.

I doubt he’s going to be convinced in less than a month.

[MarkD]

I predict a large majority will vote to expel, probably not unanimous. (But my predictions are very frequently wrong.)

[Smash255]

McCarthy would refuse to allow it to come up for a vote until after he is convicted.   Assuming he is convicted prior to his term ending it would succeed.  If McCarthy allowed it to come to a vote now, there would likely be enough Republicans voting to expel, but McCarthy will not allow it to come up for a vote.

[brucejoel99]

McCarthy would refuse to allow it to come up for a vote until after he is convicted.   Assuming he is convicted prior to his term ending it would succeed.  If McCarthy allowed it to come to a vote now, there would likely be enough Republicans voting to expel, but McCarthy will not allow it to come up for a vote.

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[TwinGeeks99]

It would succeed, but the real question is if McCarthy would even allow such a vote to come to the floor.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Ds aren't the majority they are gonna wait til Nov 24 it's not far away

[Ron DeSantis enthusiast]

If it gets to the floor is because they have the votes to do it

[Fuzzy Bear]

Why should Santos be expelled?  He's not been convicted of a crime.

Did anyone here ever call for the expulsion of Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)?  Of Rep. Harold Fort, St. (D-TN)?  These are two (2) I can think of that were under indictment for literally years (which Santos may well end up being, only to be ultimately acquitted).  If Menendez should not have resigned while under indictment, there is no reason for Santos to, as long as he is not convicted.

Yes, this position of mine is realpolitik, but it is consistent with positions Democrats here routinely take.  The voters will be able to rid themselves of Santos soon enough, and he's in no danger to elevate himself to the Presidency.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It won't matter he is GONE LIKE TRUMP IS IN 24

[The Arizonan]

Why should Santos be expelled?  He's not been convicted of a crime.

Did anyone here ever call for the expulsion of Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)?  Of Rep. Harold Fort, St. (D-TN)?  These are two (2) I can think of that were under indictment for literally years (which Santos may well end up being, only to be ultimately acquitted).  If Menendez should not have resigned while under indictment, there is no reason for Santos to, as long as he is not convicted.

Yes, this position of mine is realpolitik, but it is consistent with positions Democrats here routinely take.  The voters will be able to rid themselves of Santos soon enough, and he's in no danger to elevate himself to the Presidency.

For once, I agree with you on something.

[Pres Mike]

Why should Santos be expelled?  He's not been convicted of a crime.

Did anyone here ever call for the expulsion of Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)?  Of Rep. Harold Fort, St. (D-TN)?  These are two (2) I can think of that were under indictment for literally years (which Santos may well end up being, only to be ultimately acquitted).  If Menendez should not have resigned while under indictment, there is no reason for Santos to, as long as he is not convicted.

Yes, this position of mine is realpolitik, but it is consistent with positions Democrats here routinely take.  The voters will be able to rid themselves of Santos soon enough, and he's in no danger to elevate himself to the Presidency.

For lying? And before you say "all politicans lie" come on, make an exception for Santos...

[Nyvin]

Now that Chris Stewart is going to be gone, McCarthy's margin is just going to be four votes.   They probably don't like Santos, but don't want to narrow their majority anymore either.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Why should Santos be expelled?  He's not been convicted of a crime.

Did anyone here ever call for the expulsion of Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)?  Of Rep. Harold Fort, St. (D-TN)?  These are two (2) I can think of that were under indictment for literally years (which Santos may well end up being, only to be ultimately acquitted).  If Menendez should not have resigned while under indictment, there is no reason for Santos to, as long as he is not convicted.

Yes, this position of mine is realpolitik, but it is consistent with positions Democrats here routinely take.  The voters will be able to rid themselves of Santos soon enough, and he's in no danger to elevate himself to the Presidency.

For lying? And before you say "all politicans lie" come on, make an exception for Santos...

If politicians got expelled for lying, we would have no politicians.

[Ferguson97]

Now that Chris Stewart is going to be gone, McCarthy's margin is just going to be four votes.   They probably don't like Santos, but don't want to narrow their majority anymore either.

David Cicilline's resignation cancels it out, plus Stewart isn't even resigning until September - so the GOP actually has a 6-seat majority at the moment.

[coloradocowboi]

Why should Santos be expelled?  He's not been convicted of a crime.

Did anyone here ever call for the expulsion of Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)?  Of Rep. Harold Fort, St. (D-TN)?  These are two (2) I can think of that were under indictment for literally years (which Santos may well end up being, only to be ultimately acquitted).  If Menendez should not have resigned while under indictment, there is no reason for Santos to, as long as he is not convicted.

Yes, this position of mine is realpolitik, but it is consistent with positions Democrats here routinely take.  The voters will be able to rid themselves of Santos soon enough, and he's in no danger to elevate himself to the Presidency.

As a progressive, I would absolutely love for Rob Menendez to get voted out of the Senate.

[Ferguson97]

Why should Santos be expelled?  He's not been convicted of a crime.

Did anyone here ever call for the expulsion of Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)?  Of Rep. Harold Fort, St. (D-TN)?  These are two (2) I can think of that were under indictment for literally years (which Santos may well end up being, only to be ultimately acquitted).  If Menendez should not have resigned while under indictment, there is no reason for Santos to, as long as he is not convicted.

Yes, this position of mine is realpolitik, but it is consistent with positions Democrats here routinely take.  The voters will be able to rid themselves of Santos soon enough, and he's in no danger to elevate himself to the Presidency.

As a progressive, I would absolutely love for Rob Menendez to get voted out of the Senate.

If Menendez tries to run again in 2030, I plan on primarying him (since I'll be finally old enough).

[Pres Mike]

Why should Santos be expelled?  He's not been convicted of a crime.

Did anyone here ever call for the expulsion of Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)?  Of Rep. Harold Fort, St. (D-TN)?  These are two (2) I can think of that were under indictment for literally years (which Santos may well end up being, only to be ultimately acquitted).  If Menendez should not have resigned while under indictment, there is no reason for Santos to, as long as he is not convicted.

Yes, this position of mine is realpolitik, but it is consistent with positions Democrats here routinely take.  The voters will be able to rid themselves of Santos soon enough, and he's in no danger to elevate himself to the Presidency.

For lying? And before you say "all politicans lie" come on, make an exception for Santos...

If politicians got expelled for lying, we would have no politicians.

But Santos is on a whole other level. Its cartoonish. I find it very silly and naive to compare the typical politican to Santos.