Jury finds that Donald Trump sexually abused E. Jean Carroll in civil case

[emailking]

Remember when I called this a nothing burger, and everyone got furious about it?

Yes, you were wrong then and you are wrong now.

$83,300,000 is quite a lot of money for a nothingburger!

Doesn’t matter in the long run.

It's actually going to matter a lot if there's a 300+ million judgement, like James is asking for, in the NY civil trial because he doesn't have enough cash on hand to cover the bonds for both this and a judgment that large, so he will have to start liquidating properties. Does it matter 100 years from now? Well no, probably not then if that is long run lol.

[Badger]

Trump lawyer Alina Habba also was not feeling well.

Won't she face any consequences for lying to the judge to delay the trial?

https://twitter.com/SwissWatchGuy/status/1750286571889168885

This is abominable. If I or any attorney I know pulled something like this they'd be racked up for contempt so damn fast

[TheReckoning]

Remember when I called this a nothing burger, and everyone got furious about it?

Yes, you were wrong then and you are wrong now.

$83,300,000 is quite a lot of money for a nothingburger!

Doesn’t matter in the long run.

It's actually going to matter a lot if there's a 300+ million judgement, like James is asking for, in the NY civil trial because he doesn't have enough cash on hand to cover the bonds for both this and a judgment that large, so he will have to start liquidating properties. Does it matter 100 years from now? Well no, probably not then if that is long run lol.

Makes no difference in the 2024 election is what I meant.

[Badger]

Remember when I called this a nothing burger, and everyone got furious about it?

Tell me, how many minds has this case changed?

A woman was raped but I guess you are ok with that.

That’s not what I meant, and you know that.

Considering your long posting history of supporting or defending the most reprehensible disgusting Concepts imaginable, no, we do not know that.

[Badger]

I will hope and pray this could help us get Haley . So I give a thumbs up to the verdict

Please. A jury finds Trump simply liable for sexually assaulting Gene Carroll and the GOP rallies around him overwhelmingly. You really think a jury award finding he liable her for calling her a liar about it is going to move a single one of the Neanderthals who support Trump?

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

In the long run we will all be dead.

Death is inevitable; salvation is not.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

This won’t affect Trump in the slightest…the Saudis will pay way more than $83 million for the nuclear docs Trump still has at Mar-a-Lago.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

This won’t affect Trump in the slightest…the Saudis will pay way more than $83 million for the nuclear docs Trump still has at Mar-a-Lago.

When, though? Trump can do a lot to keep his lifestyle going, and to delay consequences for his business chicanery, but campaigns and court judgements require cash. And while Trump will burn American to the ground to save himself, he equally willing burn the GOP to the ground. And they're in his hands right now, unlike the United States.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Spotted at Trump International Hotel:

[Landslide Lyndon]

https://twitter.com/BrianManookian/status/1751024486495699067

Let me ruin the suspense for everyone. Trump doesn't have an appeal.

I know the talking heads on TV (who have never tried a case or appealed a jury verdict) have to mention it. Here's why it isn't going to fly.

To have a meritorious appeal, you have to preserve a reversible error at the trial level.  This is why you hire competent counsel. You need someone who actually knows the rules of evidence and procedure.

Alina Habba had no clue what was occurring throughout the trial. She not only failed to preserve any remote grounds for appeal, like a moron, she repeatedly and unintentionally waived them over and over.

For example, she kept saying "no objection" as exhibits were entered into evidence.

It appeared to me that she was saying that because she that's something she had heard real lawyers say before.

Unfortunately for Mr. Trump, what she was doing over and over was waiving his ability to appeal over those evidentiary issues. Because she is a moron who would rather *play* lawyer than do the research to *be* a lawyer.

There's no appeal here. And because people have asked me in the past, no, there is no such thing as an incompetent counsel defense in civil cases. That's for criminal matters.

Take this verdict to the bank.

https://twitter.com/BrianManookian/status/1751082963612131496

To even have the privilege of filing an appeal, Trump would have to post a bond in excess of the full amount of the verdict.

Why? Trump isn't the first deadbeat defendant. Our legal system is used to these guys. If you want to appeal, you have to put up the money in cash.

If he actually does that (he won't) all it means is that when his appeal is summarily rejected, E. Jean gets her cash straight out of the court's escrow account instead of having to chase Trump for it.

It's another reason Trump is going to make a lot of noise about appealing, but not do anything substantive.

His only real play here is to go to E. Jean's lawyers and try to negotiate a reduced settlement.  That is what happens in 99 percent of these situations.  Plaintiff takes 75 cents on the dollar to avoid the expense and delay of trying to collect.  Defendant gets a 25 percent discount.

I doubt E. Jean accepts that here, including because post-judgment interest is running at 10 percent.  That's $22,739 a day on $83M.

[Inmate Trump]

I will hope and pray this could help us get Haley . So I give a thumbs up to the verdict

Please. A jury finds Trump simply liable for sexually assaulting Gene Carroll and the GOP rallies around him overwhelmingly. You really think a jury award finding he liable her for calling her a liar about it is going to move a single one of the Neanderthals who support Trump?

Yep.

They support him knowing he betrayed his oath and betrayed the country. After he attacked the country and tried to dismantle the government.

This is all small potatoes compared to that. They wouldn’t turn their backs on him even if he directly performed an abortion on live tv. Instead they’d reason why he had to do it.

It’s a blind religious devotion with these people.

[Ferguson97]

Makes no difference in the 2024 election is what I meant.

That’s not what “nothingburger” means. Nothingburger means that the claims are either untrue or exaggerated.

[emailking]

While I don't think this gets us Haley I can agree with the sentiment that I hope it does.

[TheReckoning]

Makes no difference in the 2024 election is what I meant.

That’s not what “nothingburger” means. Nothingburger means that the claims are either untrue or exaggerated.

If not “nothingburger”, then what word is the used for “this is of zero significance in terms of impact”?

[emailking]

It's maybe a nothingburger for the election, but it's not for Trump.

[Ferguson97]

That’s not what “nothingburger” means. Nothingburger means that the claims are either untrue or exaggerated.

If not “nothingburger”, then what word is the used for “this is of zero significance in terms of impact”?

…Just say that.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Donald has appealed... on his failing social media network:

Trump targets New York judge, AG as civil fraud case verdict looms

“It is a great company that has been slandered and maligned by this politically motivated Witch Hunt. It is very unfair, and I call for help from the highest Courts in New York State, or the Federal System, to intercede. THIS IS NOT AMERICA,” he continued.

(Presumably he does not want to appeal himself, as he 1) would have to put the full judgement in escrow, and 2) doesn't have any grounds for appeal.)

This also seems like an appropriate time to remind everyone that, according to Mr. Trump (and of course, all the Republicans who continue to support him) the correct response to an intervention in his favor by one of his appointed judges would be, "the Second Amendment".

[Badger]

So there is a question here. Will the publicity from Gene Carroll's attorneys garnishing and placing liens on Trump's property create such a bad impression that it's worth posting the bond to appeal this decision and get it out of the headlines until quite possibly after the election? Or Will trump just follow his near half century long practice of trying to stiff people money and force them to try to go to court to collect it? Different situation here where they actually have a judgment against him instead contractors, lenders, Etc being faced with having to face mountains of litigation from his lawyers and accept dimes on the dollar.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1762176743694012519

[emailking]

Trump posts nearly $92 million bond in E. Jean Carroll defamation case

Former President Donald Trump has posted a $91.63 million bond as he appeals the judgment against him in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case.

The notice of Trump’s bond and appeal was made with the federal court in New York on Friday.

In January, a federal jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages as a result of Trump’s defamatory statements denying he raped her, saying she wasn’t his type, and accusing her of making up the allegation to boost sales of her book.

Insurance company Chubb underwrote the bond for Trump, which the former president signed on Tuesday. Under the terms of the bond, Chubb will only secure the appeal of the $83.3 million judgment, not any future appeals.

The bond size is greater than the judgment because the district court generally requires a party to post 110% of the bond.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/08/politics/trump-carroll-83-million-defamation-bond-appeal/index.html

[Badger]

Trump posts nearly $92 million bond in E. Jean Carroll defamation case

Former President Donald Trump has posted a $91.63 million bond as he appeals the judgment against him in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case.

The notice of Trump’s bond and appeal was made with the federal court in New York on Friday.

In January, a federal jury awarded Carroll $83.3 million in damages as a result of Trump’s defamatory statements denying he raped her, saying she wasn’t his type, and accusing her of making up the allegation to boost sales of her book.

Insurance company Chubb underwrote the bond for Trump, which the former president signed on Tuesday. Under the terms of the bond, Chubb will only secure the appeal of the $83.3 million judgment, not any future appeals.

The bond size is greater than the judgment because the district court generally requires a party to post 110% of the bond.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/08/politics/trump-carroll-83-million-defamation-bond-appeal/index.html

Politically wise. Most soft Trump supporters are resigned to/excuse his crooked business dealings, but seeing judgment executed for a sexual assault is a bazooka even for them.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Will this guy ever learn to keep his mouth shut?

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1766614743404388853