Herbert Hoover Elected in 1920

[Robespierre's Jaw]

What if Herbert Hoover had decided to run for President in 1920 as a Republican. What would have Hoover accomplished as President during this time? Who would have Hoover affected the course of history by being elected in 1920? Discuss.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Not much changes only its a different GOP POTUS who loses to either FDR or Huey Long in '32.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

What would have Hoover introduced in his Presidency? I wonder if someone could come up with an accurate TL to see how the Hoover Presidency from 1921-1929 would have been like?

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Same as our 20s but with different names. The kewl part comes in 1932 when Long gets in(FDR got LUCKY in not dying of polio in 1921 so)

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

What if Herbert Hoover had decided to run for President in 1920 as a Republican. What would have Hoover accomplished as President during this time? Who would have Hoover affected the course of history by being elected in 1920? Discuss.

He did try to run for President as a Republican, but after he came in second to Sen. Hiram Johnson of California in the California primary, he was effectively out of the race, since while favored son candidates had a shot at winning the nomination in those days, second favored sons didn't.  The most likely way for Hoover to have a shot would if Johnson decided to revive the Progressive Party instead of staying within the Republican camp.

Johnson's campaign does manage to come in ahead of Debs, and reduce both the Republican and Democratic totals in the PV, but the only effect in the EV is to switch Tennessee to the Democrats.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Hoover's policies are not that dissimilar from OTL, but with the Progressive Party around in 1920, LaFollette does better in 1924 and the Progressives don't fade away as fast as they did in OTL.

A nice three color map with the Progressives getting the northwest and the Democrats getting the south, but the broad band in the middle is where the votes are Hoover is easily reëlected despite having only a plurality a second time in a row.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Vice President Coolidge receives the Republican nomination, but the effects of the Tariff Act of 1926 have caused the economy to cool compared to OTL, not enough to a recession, but enough that the Democrats are not content to let Smith take the nomination since they think they can win it.  William G. McAdoo is the Democratic standard bearer while the Progressives have largely fallen apart after LaFollette's death in 1925.  McAdoo wins the 1928 election quite handily.  However, with the Senate still in Republican hands, McAdoo does not have an easy time of it.  The perfect economic storm that contributed to the Great Depression does not occur.  Enough butterflies have flapped that while there is an economic down turn in 1929, it is not as steep nor as deep.  It does give Democrats the chance to campaign against the Republican Senate that is blocking their ability to fix the problem and they are able to take it in the 1930 election.  The Democrats cut the tariff and spending, including plans to build a carrier (OTL USS Ranger) to replace the USS Langley.  The economy is looking up as the 1932 elections come around, so McAdoo is reelected in 1932.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Could someone make me a map of a 1920 scenario with a Republican ticket of Herbert Hoover and Irvine Lenroot and a Democratic ticket of William G. McAdoo and Franklin D. Roosevelt. And how the first Hoover term would play out.

[CPT MikeyMike]

See Harding's result - would be similar.  Hoover was one of the most respected men in America in 1919 and 1920. He was young (46), and liked to get things done with his Relief Effort Work for the First World War.

But keep in mind FDR may not have been the VP nominee in 1920 if Hoover ran. Those two actually got along well at the time. FDR even told Hoover to say he was a Jefferson Democrat and Hoover would have gotten the Democratic nomination in 1920.

[Undisguised Sockpuppet]

Can we have either Huey Long being elected in 1932 or the business plot in 1934 going off?

[PBrunsel]

Hoover would have made major changes to the Stock Market. He would have ended insider trading and any way of artifically raising stock prices. This would have helped stave off the Depression for a few years.

On the foreign scene he would have urged a national moratorium on war debts, thus styfling the rise of Adolph Hitler in Germany. He also supprted the League of Nations, so this could have led to a fight with the conservative Senate under Henry Lodge. His humkanitarian side could have led to an early Marshall Plan for war ravaged Europe helping end the rise of Communist and Fascist governments.

On the deomcestic scene he would have regulated parts and radio frequencies, supported Civil Rights legislation, and handled the flood of 1927 as well as he did in real life.

[Verily]

Hoover would have made major changes to the Stock Market. He would have ended insider trading and any way of artifically raising stock prices. This would have helped stave off the Depression for a few years.

On the foreign scene he would have urged a national moratorium on war debts, thus styfling the rise of Adolph Hitler in Germany. He also supprted the League of Nations, so this could have led to a fight with the conservative Senate under Henry Lodge. His humkanitarian side could have led to an early Marshall Plan for war ravaged Europe helping end the rise of Communist and Fascist governments.

On the deomcestic scene he would have regulated parts and radio frequencies, supported Civil Rights legislation, and handled the flood of 1927 as well as he did in real life.

Though Hoover was certainly not as bad as he often gets the reputation of being, he was not the saint you describe. He would have been internationalist but continued a hard line toward Germany and would have been less willing to work with the Soviet Union, contributing to earlier tension in Eastern Europe. While Hoover's economic reforms long before the Depression prevented the disaster Coolidge engineered, the Depression still occurs, though more severely in Europe and less so in the United States.

Extrapolating:
Instead of Nazis, Germany is eventually taken over by Communists promising an end to Germany's economic troubles. World War II is postponed, but instead a sort of "Cold War" exists by 1940 between the League of Nations, which has become more of a military alliance among Democratic powers than a political entity, and the Comintern. However, without WWII, there are no nukes and thus no mutually assured destruction, meaning that war would begin at some point, possibly as an extension of the Chinese Civil War. (The United States, maintaining a robust economy and bereft of its European markets that are in the midst of a depression, seeks markets in China and becomes more personally involved in support of the Nationalists.)

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Hoover would have made major changes to the Stock Market. He would have ended insider trading and any way of artificially raising stock prices. This would have helped stave off the Depression for a few years.

On the foreign scene he would have urged a national moratorium on war debts, thus stifling the rise of Adolph Hitler in Germany. He also supported the League of Nations, so this could have led to a fight with the conservative Senate under Henry Lodge. His humanitarian side could have led to an early Marshall Plan for war ravaged Europe helping end the rise of Communist and Fascist governments.

On the domestic scene he would have regulated parts and radio frequencies, supported Civil Rights legislation, and handled the flood of 1927 as well as he did in real life.

I don't see Hoover taking on the stock market in 1921.  It generally takes a scandal or other problem to cause those sorts of reforms and a 1909 Supreme Court case had already established that insider trading was fraud.  All the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 did was to Federalize and codify the exact definition and punishment of insider trading.  Until State laws proved inadequate to the task I can't see the Great Engineer making that a priority.

I fail to see how Hoover could have affected the German war reparations more than the 1924 Dawes Plan or the 1929 Young Plan did.  At most he could have advanced them a year or so each, but it wasn't really the reparations that created the conditions for Hitler's rise to power (tho they did create a useful scapegoat) but the Great Depression.  What really caused the Great Depression to be more than an inevitable but short-lived recession was Smoot-Hawley which Hoover failed to veto.  I can't see Hoover being more willing to stand up to Senator Smoot in the 1920's than he was in 1930.