Rate 2028 after a second Trump term.

[Tekken_Guy]

Rate 2028 after a second Trump term.

[Spectator]

As close to Safe D as one could get in a presidential race.

[dw93]

Likely D. 2028 is likely R if Biden is re elected or a non Trump R were to win 2024.

[Zedonathin2020]

Probably the most guaranteed Safe D since 1964

[MABA 2020]

As awful as a second Trump term would be, it would still end up being close because all presidential elections are these days. Lean D optimistically

[pbrower2a]

Safe R in the sense that the Democratic Party would not remain on the ballot. America would be a full-blown single-Party dictatorship.

[Tekken_Guy]

Safe R in the sense that the Democratic Party would not remain on the ballot. America would be a full-blown single-Party dictatorship.

Congress is never going to let him get away with that. And neither will SCOTUS.

[ملكة كرينجيتوك]

Probably the most guaranteed Safe D since 1964

Even if the economy is booming and Dems go with Harris, and she remains unpopular?

Don Giovanni still lost in 2020 despite a very pro-incumbent environment so...

[Ferguson97]

Likely D. 2028 is likely R if Biden is re elected or a non Trump R were to win 2024.

Yeah I am like 95% positive that the party that wins in 2024 loses in 2028.

[President Johnson]

Likely D. 2028 is likely R if Biden is re elected or a non Trump R were to win 2024.

Agreed, though I wouldn't say 2028 is Likely Republican after another term of Joe Biden. The last two times a Democratic president was term-limited, they came pretty damn close to winning a third term. 2028 could finally be the time, especially with Whitmer leading the ticket. Republicans won't come to senses after another Trump loss, so don't expect a much better candidate. I'd at least say it's a tossup then. Likely Democratic after another Trump presidency.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Would we even have an election in 2028? Or an election with more than one party on the ballot?

[Tekken_Guy]

Would we even have an election in 2028? Or an election with more than one party on the ballot?

Of course we will. Trump won’t have enough votes to pass these kinds of things, and the Supreme Court isn’t going to let it fly.

[bagelman]

Depends on whether Trump is on the ballot. If so, Safe R, because he's managed to abolish term limits and the power required for that is enough to turn America into an R dictatorship.

[Tekken_Guy]

Depends on whether Trump is on the ballot. If so, Safe R, because he's managed to abolish term limits and the power required for that is enough to turn America into an R dictatorship.

What if he’s not?

[TheReckoning]

Likely D. 2028 is likely R if Biden is re elected or a non Trump R were to win 2024.

Yeah I am like 95% positive that the party that wins in 2024 loses in 2028.

Why? I wouldn’t be too surprised if Democrats win both 2024 and 2028.

[dw93]

Likely D. 2028 is likely R if Biden is re elected or a non Trump R were to win 2024.

Yeah I am like 95% positive that the party that wins in 2024 loses in 2028.

Why? I wouldn’t be too surprised if Democrats win both 2024 and 2028.

Unless Biden is Ronald Reagan 1988 or Bill Clinton 2000 levels popular and someone stronger than Harris emerges as the Democratic nominee, I don't see the Democrats holding on for a third term after a Biden win in 2024. Having said that, like I said I think a non Trump R is favored to hold on in 2028.

[TheReckoning]

Likely D. 2028 is likely R if Biden is re elected or a non Trump R were to win 2024.

Yeah I am like 95% positive that the party that wins in 2024 loses in 2028.

Why? I wouldn’t be too surprised if Democrats win both 2024 and 2028.

Unless Biden is Ronald Reagan 1988 or Bill Clinton 2000 levels popular and someone stronger than Harris emerges as the Democratic nominee, I don't see the Democrats holding on for a third term after a Biden win in 2024. Having said that, like I said I think a non Trump R is favored to hold on in 2028.

I could conceivably see Trump being nominated both in 2024 and 2028, and on account of being Trump, will lose Bose times.

[Ferguson97]

Likely D. 2028 is likely R if Biden is re elected or a non Trump R were to win 2024.

Yeah I am like 95% positive that the party that wins in 2024 loses in 2028.

Why? I wouldn’t be too surprised if Democrats win both 2024 and 2028.

Unless Biden is Ronald Reagan 1988 or Bill Clinton 2000 levels popular and someone stronger than Harris emerges as the Democratic nominee, I don't see the Democrats holding on for a third term after a Biden win in 2024. Having said that, like I said I think a non Trump R is favored to hold on in 2028.

I think there's a chance that 2028 is the GOP's 1988 - the challenging party goes into the election with a huge advantage, running against the incumbent VP following two terms of an elderly president, but fumbles the bag and loses badly, and is forced to completely rebrand ahead of 1992/2032.

[Sol]

Would we even have an election in 2028? Or an election with more than one party on the ballot?

Of course we will. Trump won’t have enough votes to pass these kinds of things, and the Supreme Court isn’t going to let it fly.

Pretty dark when the argument is "he won't be able to make America into a dictatorship" rather than "he doesn't want to be a dictator."

[Skill and Chance]

Lean D

Would be a remarkable number of party switches/single terms compared to recent history.

[BigVic]

Titanium D

[pbrower2a]

Safe R in the sense that the Democratic Party would not remain on the ballot. America would be a full-blown single-Party dictatorship.

Congress is never going to let him get away with that. And neither will SCOTUS.

Wishful thinking and $2.12 will get you a $2 cup of coffee in Michigan (the sales tax is 6%). Without the wishful thinking you will get the same cup of coffee.

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Kamala Harris could easily lose in 2028.

[dw93]

Kamala Harris could easily lose in 2028.

I don't think she'd be the nominee in 28 after a Biden/Harris loss in 2024.

[Suburbia]

If Kari Lake is VP, Safe R because a Vice President Lake will not certify a Democratic victory.