RFK Jr Megathread

[PSOL]

Ross Perot says hi from his grave.

It is a very similar line, something Trump promised in his first campaign for the presidency.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

I've got a hot take.

Right now RFK Jr takes more from Trump than Biden because his right-coded positions have got more media attention. This is because of 2 reasons.
1. Right wingers boosted him to their audience by going "look guys isn't he cool, he's a democrat saying based stuff!"
2. Left wingers pointing out "look he believes Republican stuff, he's actually a far-right crackpot" to scare democrats away from voting for him.

So both sides were emphasising his right-coded positions. Not because he doesn't have left-coded ones too, but just for pure political reasons.

Now though, he's running as an independent. This means Republicans will be raising awareness of his left-wing positions to scare right-wingers away from voting for him.

It's like how when RFK Jr first entered the race, all of the Democrats were saying "well when the public is aware he's an anti-vaxxer, then democrats won't support him as much', and they were right.
Similarly, once Republicans find out he's praised Bernie Sanders, supported the Green New Deal, supported affirmative action and reparations, I doubt many would like him after that. I expect a similar collapse to what happened on the left.

After all, something like his pro-reparation take isn't anything new, he's been outspoken about it for a while. But it's only getting coverage now because the parties don't uniformly want to make him look right wing anymore.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

He's costing Trump more than Biden why because Rs like Kennedys too it was the Italian Mafia whom killed JFK not Rs

[All Along The Watchtower]

Rappers and entertainers are often leaders in the Black Community.

lmao

[Horus]

“BuT rFK wILLz sTeAL vOtES frOM TRuMPP !!”

RFK Jr. comes out in favor of reparations, carving out lane to Biden’s left

Kennedy — who ditched his Democratic primary challenge to Biden earlier this month — has spoken out in favor of issuing federal dollars to “rebuild black infrastructure” like banks and businesses, and as well as “direct redress payments or tax credits” rather than no-strings cash giveaways. … “During Jim Crow, Black banks, businesses, hospitals, schools, and farms were targeted for destruction. Racists knew that without these, the Black community had no chance of building wealth. We must set federal dollars aside to rebuild Black infrastructure.” “These programs complement direct redress payments or tax credits to the descendants of the victims of Jim Crow and other victims of persecution,” the pledge continues. “RFK Jr. will find ways to offer this redress that are legal, fair, and win the approval of Americans of all races.” https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/rfk-jr-comes-out-for-reparations-forging-lane-to-bidens-left/

He is correct.

[DaleCooper]

Lmao, I am loving this desperation from the right to paint RFK Jr. as a radical liberal socialist. It's too late, they already set him up as an anti-establishment hero who is being silenced by the evil globalist radical liberal media. That's the type of voter that Trump needs to get elected, and they do not vote based on any random policy position or off-hand comments about Reparations, lol. Even if Fox or OAN or whatever try to blacklist him from their shows, he's already made it into the alternative media propaganda algorithm. Think shows like Joe Rogan who are harder to control and that don't have any allegiance to the Republican Party.

Again, he'll probably end up getting at best 1-2% of the vote, and he won't even be on the ballot in all the swing states, but that 1-2% will be 10:1 Trump voters.

[Redban]

Just another reminder that Biden and Mayorkas are trash. Give the guy Secret Service protection

https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/news/rfk-jr-begs-biden-admin-for-secret-service-protection-after-intruder-arrested-at-his-home/

RFK Jr. begs Biden administration for Secret Service protection after intruder arrested at his home

Presidential hopeful Robert F. Kennedy Jr. submitted a third request for Secret Service protection from the Biden administration on Wednesday after an intruder was arrested twice in one day trespassing on his Los Angeles property.
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“Over the last several months, the campaign submitted formal requests for Secret Service protection, yet U.S. Department of Homeland Security Sec. Alejandro Mayorkas has refused to approve the protection,” the Kennedy Jr. campaign said in a statement.
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Wednesday’s incident follows the arrest of an armed man impersonating a US marshal at a Kennedy Jr. campaign event in California last month.
 

[emailking]

I don't think anybody gets Secret Service protection this early. Moreover they have to assess he might win, which I don't think anybody does except maybe him.

[Redban]

I don't think anybody gets Secret Service protection this early. Moreover they have to assess he might win, which I don't think anybody does except maybe him.

Ben Carson received secret service protection in the fall of 2015

The idea that you should get SS protection only if you have a chance to win would lead to absurd results. By that logic, a person like Mondale 1984 or Goldwater 1964 would not be eligible for SS protection

[Minnesota Mike]

Just another reminder that Biden and Mayorkas are trash. Give the guy Secret Service protection

https://nypost.com/2023/10/26/news/rfk-jr-begs-biden-admin-for-secret-service-protection-after-intruder-arrested-at-his-home/

RFK Jr. begs Biden administration for Secret Service protection after intruder arrested at his home

Presidential hopeful Robert F. Kennedy Jr. submitted a third request for Secret Service protection from the Biden administration on Wednesday after an intruder was arrested twice in one day trespassing on his Los Angeles property.
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“Over the last several months, the campaign submitted formal requests for Secret Service protection, yet U.S. Department of Homeland Security Sec. Alejandro Mayorkas has refused to approve the protection,” the Kennedy Jr. campaign said in a statement.
…

Wednesday’s incident follows the arrest of an armed man impersonating a US marshal at a Kennedy Jr. campaign event in California last month.
 

As far as I know only Biden, Trump, and maybe Pence have secret service protection. Kennedy is being treated no different than any other candidate in his posistion.

[emailking]

I don't think anybody gets Secret Service protection this early. Moreover they have to assess he might win, which I don't think anybody does except maybe him.

Ben Carson received secret service protection in the fall of 2015

The idea that you should get SS protection only if you have a chance to win would lead to absurd results. By that logic, a person like Mondale 1984 or Goldwater 1968 would not be eligible for SS protection

I guess I forgot that, yeah. Apologies.

I don't agree on the 2nd part.

[Minnesota Mike]

I don't think anybody gets Secret Service protection this early. Moreover they have to assess he might win, which I don't think anybody does except maybe him.

Ben Carson received secret service protection in the fall of 2015

The idea that you should get SS protection only if you have a chance to win would lead to absurd results. By that logic, a person like Mondale 1984 or Goldwater 1968 would not be eligible for SS protection

I guess I forgot that, yeah. Apologies.

I don't agree on the 2nd part.

Carson got Secret Service protection in early November 2015, same time Trump received it. At that time Carson and Trump were tied for the polling lead for the Republican nomination according to RCP.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

A third party candidate who's best polls show him a distant third to the major party candidates does not equal the polling leaders of a major party.

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I don't think anybody gets Secret Service protection this early. Moreover they have to assess he might win, which I don't think anybody does except maybe him.

Ben Carson received secret service protection in the fall of 2015

The idea that you should get SS protection only if you have a chance to win would lead to absurd results. By that logic, a person like Mondale 1984 or Goldwater 1968 would not be eligible for SS protection

I guess I forgot that, yeah. Apologies.

I don't agree on the 2nd part.

Carson got Secret Service protection in early November 2015, same time Trump received it. At that time Carson and Trump were tied for the polling lead for the Republican nomination according to RCP.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html

A third party candidate who's best polls show him a distant third to the major party candidates does not equal the polling leaders of a major party.

I doubt Joseph Smith would have polled well, assuming that they had polls.

[emailking]

^ RFK stooge

[emailking]

I see an opinion of the dropouts thread in his future.

Since he's running independent, this is probably wrong.

[emailking]

RFK Jr. argues that Biden is a bigger threat to democracy than Trump

Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. argued Monday that President Joe Biden is a greater threat to democracy than former President Donald Trump.

His argument made on CNN’s “Erin Burnett OutFront” centered around being blocked on social media platforms during the Biden administration, which he labeled as an effort to “censor political speech” and undermine the First Amendment.

“I can make the argument that President Biden is the much worse threat to democracy, and the reason for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history – the first president in history that has used the federal agencies to censor political speech, so to censor his opponent,” he said.

Kennedy pointed to his removal from social media platforms, which he attributes to pressure from the Biden administration, as evidence of the president’s efforts to censor political speech.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/01/politics/rfk-jr-cnntv-interview/index.html

[PSOL]

The problem with Jr is that he doesn’t engage with black social media and news outlets much and doesn’t campaign heavily enough in black and brown communities. Doing that would make the threat of his campaign more possible.

[Inmate Trump]

What’s the deal with the voice?

[Ragnaroni]

What’s the deal with the voice?

I think he had some sort of throat issue, like a disease. I first thought it was a smoking issue since I know people with that sort of raspy voice who smoke too much.

A quick google gives this :
"Spasmodic dysphonia is a chronic neurological voice disorder and a focal laryngeal dystonia. It results in involuntary spasms of the muscles that open or close the vocal folds, causing a voice that presents with breaks and strained/strangled quality or breathy quality, depending on the type of spasmodic dysphonia (adductor or abductor)."

Source : https://dysphonia.org/what-is-wrong-with-rfkjr-voice/#:~:text=The%20sound%20of%20Robert%20F,being%20diagnosed%20with%20spasmodic%20dysphonia.

[PSOL]

What’s the deal with the voice?

He’s a lizard person and his human costume is falling apart.

[Inmate Trump]

What’s the deal with the voice?

I think he had some sort of throat issue, like a disease. I first thought it was a smoking issue since I know people with that sort of raspy voice who smoke too much.

A quick google gives this :
"Spasmodic dysphonia is a chronic neurological voice disorder and a focal laryngeal dystonia. It results in involuntary spasms of the muscles that open or close the vocal folds, causing a voice that presents with breaks and strained/strangled quality or breathy quality, depending on the type of spasmodic dysphonia (adductor or abductor)."

Source : https://dysphonia.org/what-is-wrong-with-rfkjr-voice/#:~:text=The%20sound%20of%20Robert%20F,being%20diagnosed%20with%20spasmodic%20dysphonia.

Not to sound like an a$$hole but it might actually be beneficial to Biden if RFK is on the debate stage. I can’t imagine his message getting across very well if that’s how he sounds, and it’s all people will focus on. I have to turn him off when he talks simply because his voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

[GeorgiaModerate]

What’s the deal with the voice?

I think he had some sort of throat issue, like a disease. I first thought it was a smoking issue since I know people with that sort of raspy voice who smoke too much.

A quick google gives this :
"Spasmodic dysphonia is a chronic neurological voice disorder and a focal laryngeal dystonia. It results in involuntary spasms of the muscles that open or close the vocal folds, causing a voice that presents with breaks and strained/strangled quality or breathy quality, depending on the type of spasmodic dysphonia (adductor or abductor)."

Source : https://dysphonia.org/what-is-wrong-with-rfkjr-voice/#:~:text=The%20sound%20of%20Robert%20F,being%20diagnosed%20with%20spasmodic%20dysphonia.

Not to sound like an a$$hole but it might actually be beneficial to Biden if RFK is on the debate stage. I can’t imagine his message getting across very well if that’s how he sounds, and it’s all people will focus on. I have to turn him off when he talks simply because his voice is like nails on a chalkboard to me.

OTOH, he might make Trump look normal by comparison.

[Progressive Pessimist]

What’s the deal with the voice?

I don't think enough of his would-be supporters even know what he sounds like. They're probably imagining the voice of his father or uncle.

His voice is the least of his problems, but I'm going off the assumption that those considering voting for him are superficial themselves ("Biden is old!").

[PSOL]

What’s the deal with the voice?

I don't think enough of his would-be supporters even know what he sounds like. They're probably imagining the voice of his father or uncle.

His voice is the least of his problems, but I'm going off the assumption that those considering voting for him are superficial themselves ("Biden is old!").

Jr isn’t exactly in wonderful health himself.

[Redban]

What’s the deal with the voice?

I don't think enough of his would-be supporters even know what he sounds like. They're probably imagining the voice of his father or uncle.

His voice is the least of his problems, but I'm going off the assumption that those considering voting for him are superficial themselves ("Biden is old!").

Jr isn’t exactly in wonderful health himself.

What