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« on: April 03, 2023, 10:25:37 PM »

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-04-03/starbucks-amazon-labor-union-wins-helped-by-undercover-salts?leadSource=reddit_wall

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If you want to unionize a workplace, Will Westlake was saying, get used to unclogging the drains. At a secret off-hours gathering held in Rochester, New York, in March, the 25-year-old former barista told a few dozen labor activists that a great way to build trust with co-workers and bosses is to volunteer for thankless chores. In his case, that meant spending months at a Starbucks outside Buffalo in 2021 getting on his knees and reaching beneath the sinks to yank loose the grimy mix of mocha chips, espresso beans, congealed milk and rotten fruit that regularly stopped things up. “Be the person who’s willing,” Westlake said. “It’s going to make the company less suspicious of you.”

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The practice of joining a workplace with the secret aim of organizing it is called “salting.” Westlake was addressing recruits at the Inside Organizer School, a workshop held a couple times a year by a loose confederation of labor organizers. At these meetups, experienced activists train other attendees in the art of going undercover. Speakers lecture and lead discussions on how to pass employer screenings, forge relationships with co-workers and process the complicated feelings that can accompany a double life. Most salts are volunteers, not paid union officials, but unions sometimes fund their housing or, later, tap them for full-time jobs. Workers United, the Service Employees International Union affiliate that’s home to the new Starbucks union, hired Westlake as an organizer around the time the coffee chain fired him last fall.

We need to ban* this practice immediately.

As in legalize allowing the firing of any such communist cell leaders.
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2023, 10:34:32 PM »

lol
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2023, 10:35:46 PM »

the american people need more sodium
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2023, 10:39:01 PM »


me when

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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2023, 10:46:22 PM »

We're going to trust a patently anti-labor outlet like Bloomberg on this?
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2023, 10:47:13 PM »

We're going to trust a patently anti-labor outlet like Bloomberg on this?

I mean the actual salts came out for an interview . Should be easy enough to verify with the unions.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2023, 11:11:12 PM »

Brb, gonna buy from Panda Express three times every day for the next three years.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2023, 03:50:14 AM »

1920 called. They want their Red Scare bait back.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2023, 05:26:03 AM »

"Anybody or anything that seeks to help normal working people instead of fellating the rich, the establishment, the oligarchs and corporations is communism."
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2023, 06:23:01 AM »

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-04-03/starbucks-amazon-labor-union-wins-helped-by-undercover-salts?leadSource=reddit_wall

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If you want to unionize a workplace, Will Westlake was saying, get used to unclogging the drains. At a secret off-hours gathering held in Rochester, New York, in March, the 25-year-old former barista told a few dozen labor activists that a great way to build trust with co-workers and bosses is to volunteer for thankless chores. In his case, that meant spending months at a Starbucks outside Buffalo in 2021 getting on his knees and reaching beneath the sinks to yank loose the grimy mix of mocha chips, espresso beans, congealed milk and rotten fruit that regularly stopped things up. “Be the person who’s willing,” Westlake said. “It’s going to make the company less suspicious of you.”

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The practice of joining a workplace with the secret aim of organizing it is called “salting.” Westlake was addressing recruits at the Inside Organizer School, a workshop held a couple times a year by a loose confederation of labor organizers. At these meetups, experienced activists train other attendees in the art of going undercover. Speakers lecture and lead discussions on how to pass employer screenings, forge relationships with co-workers and process the complicated feelings that can accompany a double life. Most salts are volunteers, not paid union officials, but unions sometimes fund their housing or, later, tap them for full-time jobs. Workers United, the Service Employees International Union affiliate that’s home to the new Starbucks union, hired Westlake as an organizer around the time the coffee chain fired him last fall.

We need to ban* this practice immediately.

As in legalize allowing the firing of any such communist cell leaders.

Let’s save freedom by having less freedom. So much to unpack so I’ll let someone even less pleasant than me (and probably fewer obligations) do it.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2023, 06:29:35 AM »

Anything to hurt Starbucks.
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2023, 07:20:10 AM »

Sounds awesome!
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2023, 07:24:21 AM »

What a frightening, organized and dangerous push... to get workers in a better position in union negotiations in some companies. If this kills the American industry (sure), then it was as weak as a feather in the first place.
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2023, 07:41:49 AM »
« Edited: April 04, 2023, 07:45:30 AM by Torie »

What were the circumstances of the labor mole's firing? Firing someone for organizing seems like a wrongful termination to me.

The OP headline appears to be a tad tendentious. I guess the goal is to max the allure of the click bait. If so, it succeeded with me, only to find that the actual story was a nothing burger. 
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2023, 07:47:32 AM »


Starbucks is trying to put oil (!) into its coffee, they can't really complain about salt.
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2023, 09:29:09 AM »


Starbucks is trying to put oil (!) into its coffee

Oil, you say? Sounds like Starbucks needs an injection of Freedom and Democracy.  Sunglasses
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2023, 09:47:52 AM »


Starbucks is trying to put oil (!) into its coffee

Oil, you say? Sounds like Starbucks needs an injection of Freedom and Democracy.  Sunglasses

A coalition of the willing (to stop such culinary abominations). Do their coffee creations count as WMDs?
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2023, 09:51:12 AM »


Starbucks is trying to put oil (!) into its coffee

Oil, you say? Sounds like Starbucks needs an injection of Freedom and Democracy.  Sunglasses

A coalition of the willing (to stop such culinary abominations). Do their coffee creations count as WMDs?

Everything Starbucks engages in can be viewed as a form of destruction.
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2023, 09:52:47 AM »

I thought undercover commies and the radical left already controlled Biden?
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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2023, 10:49:37 AM »

Sodium Chloride is based.
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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2023, 10:52:03 AM »


Starbucks is trying to put oil (!) into its coffee

Oil, you say? Sounds like Starbucks needs an injection of Freedom and Democracy.  Sunglasses

A coalition of the willing (to stop such culinary abominations). Do their coffee creations count as WMDs?

Yes
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2023, 12:07:26 PM »
« Edited: April 04, 2023, 12:13:40 PM by Primadonna Socialist »

Holy crap I just read the whole article; that guy is such a chad.

I've actually considered attending some of the North TX DSA's labor organizing meetings after getting invites, maybe I'll need to give it some more consideration.

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Still, companies also seem to recognize that they’re more vulnerable to organizing tactics like salting than they thought. While the practice is legal, business groups are urging leaders in the House of Representatives, where Republicans regained control in January, to pass a law that would make it easier to reject or fire workers who are found to be salts. “There is a basic duty of loyalty that employees have to their employer,” says Roger King, a senior counsel for the HR Policy Association, a trade group.

What the actual corporate fascist rhetoric is that, employee's don't owe employers who abuse them a lick of 'loyalty' much less any 'duty' to be loyal or blind to toxic corporate practices.

Screw that, all the salt's are absolute heroes and I hope this practice is widely adopted among working class people in these sorts of retail jobs specifically.

Also this 100x over,

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Salting can backfire when it leaves potential union supporters feeling manipulated. Some workers who’ve stood up to organize with salts’ backing have gotten fired. But salts say they’re not forcing unionization on anyone—they’re just showing people that it’s possible and how it can be done. While Westlake acknowledges that salting gets awkward, he bristles at the idea that salts aren’t loyal or dedicated enough to count as real workers. He says that he’s poured a whole lot more coffee than the Starbucks higher-ups who flew to Buffalo to talk about the dangers of unions and that he spent weeks laid up with a pinched nerve after all his drain-unclogging. “I don’t think executives should really be throwing stones,” he says. “Who’s more of a fake worker than them?”

And given Schultz literal admission of bully tactics to combat lawful union organizing I'm even less sympathetic to these corporate schmucks.
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2023, 12:15:18 PM »

Nice. I'm glad to see more of this is happening.
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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2023, 12:18:35 PM »

A coalition of the willing (to stop such culinary abominations). Do their coffee creations count as WMDs?
Sure, if and when some accountant decides to switch it from oil to Olestra to save fractions of a cent off every cup. Then it surely is a WMD… in folks’ underwear.
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2023, 12:52:53 PM »

Why are all of the worst posters on this site from New Jersey
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