"She lost her trans son to suicide. Can a Kentucky lawmaker make her colleagues care?"
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« on: March 27, 2023, 03:17:05 PM »

Heartbreaking article. I urge people to read it.
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2023, 03:46:40 PM »

My guess is no.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2023, 03:51:31 PM »

It is and always will be disgusting how the red states have turned this issue into their #1 priority thsibyear. They're all continuously trying to one-up each other into who can erase trans youth the most.

As a reminder, after being ok with them for decades, in the last year most red states have banned or are about to ban all "gender affirming care" for those 18, without any regard for reversibility, parental consent, or whether the patient has already started. Just absolutely sick, and it will undoubtedly get worse before it gets better.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2023, 04:11:37 PM »

From what the article says, the kids bullied him in school and socially outcasted him - why exactly is this the GOP's fault?
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2023, 04:32:39 PM »

From what the article says, the kids bullied him in school and socially outcasted him - why exactly is this the GOP's fault?

The GOP is legitimizing hatred of trans people.
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2023, 04:36:46 PM »

"Your son was transgender BECAUSE he was mentally ill. We don't need to modify how we approach trans people, we need to modify how we approach mental illness (with more thoughts and prayers maybe)."
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2023, 05:15:29 PM »

The parents of this child, and of the child’s friend, should have been more proactive at monitoring their behavior online. Their failure to do so, and validation of their children’s new genders, while done out of love for the children, made it impossible for them to find acceptance from their peers. Really a tragic situation.
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« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2023, 05:35:32 PM »

The parents of this child, and of the child’s friend, should have been more proactive at monitoring their behavior online. Their failure to do so, and validation of their children’s new genders, while done out of love for the children, made it impossible for them to find acceptance from their peers. Really a tragic situation.

"Was it wrong for Henry to be continually harassed? No, it's the victim that was wrong."
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2023, 05:56:11 PM »

The parents of this child, and of the child’s friend, should have been more proactive at monitoring their behavior online. Their failure to do so, and validation of their children’s new genders, while done out of love for the children, made it impossible for them to find acceptance from their peers. Really a tragic situation.

Fundamentally, this is no different from saying that a parent was wrong to support their child coming out of the closet as gay because of the backlash they might receive.

Textbook definition of victim blaming.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2023, 06:10:17 PM »

The parents of this child, and of the child’s friend, should have been more proactive at monitoring their behavior online. Their failure to do so, and validation of their children’s new genders, while done out of love for the children, made it impossible for them to find acceptance from their peers. Really a tragic situation.

Please stay away from children
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2023, 06:12:17 PM »

I mean transgender kids already face one of the highest suicide rates in the country. Conservative took in part to add Trans and gender transition issues as part of their part platform in order to humilate them and promote turnout among Evangelicals. I dont know why we continue to be suprised anymore lets just admit this was always the likely outcome and that Conservatives where perfectful fine with if it means they could gain from it politically.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2023, 07:00:35 PM »

Reading this is absolutely heartbreaking.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2023, 09:05:01 PM »

What's sad is the KY State Senate isn't all that big; those are the same 37 colleagues you see all the time. It's really sad that even in a lot of these smaller state legislative bodies you don't see much friendship or connection between State Senators across the aisle despite all the time they spend together at work.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2023, 10:27:11 PM »

"Your son was transgender BECAUSE he was mentally ill. We don't need to modify how we approach trans people, we need to modify how we approach mental illness (with more thoughts and prayers maybe)."

That is true though. It is a mental illness and how mental illness is handled needs to be modified. Body mutilation and lying to oneself and others is not the solution for a mental problem, it needs a solution that helps fix what is mentally broke or at least give the person the tools to endure if he or she cannot be fixed. It is quite twisted in that people are so intent on denyinf anything is mentally wrong with them that they will resort to and society will accept body mutilation (including for minors).

That all said, bullying should not be tolerated. You can reject transgenderism while still being compassionate to the individual.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2023, 10:45:43 PM »

It is a mental illness and how mental illness is handled needs to be modified. Body mutilation and lying to oneself and others is not the solution for a mental problem, it needs a solution that helps fix what is mentally broke or at least give the person the tools to endure if he or she cannot be fixed.
Estrogen allows me to endure. Frankly, I can't imagine enduring without estrogen. Like, I'm not mentally spectacular, but I am in a much better state than I was before I transitioned.
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2023, 11:00:05 PM »

Most Republicans are terrible human beings. So, unfortunately, probably not.
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2023, 12:41:16 AM »

You can reject transgenderism while still being compassionate to the individual.

Compassion toward transgender people is not increasing their chances of mental health outcomes and suicides by banning these things in a free country. Psychiatrists, therapists, and doctors associations mostly all agree that the best way to treat a patient who feels transgender is to not try and force them back into the closet. Doing that and then claiming to be compassionate is sick.
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2023, 12:48:57 AM »

What's sad is the KY State Senate isn't all that big; those are the same 37 colleagues you see all the time. It's really sad that even in a lot of these smaller state legislative bodies you don't see much friendship or connection between State Senators across the aisle despite all the time they spend together at work.

Thankfully that isn't true in the Nevada legislature at all.  As one of the smallest in the nation (only 42 Assembly members and 21 senators), I'm consistently impressed by the collegial and cordial atmosphere throughout the building at almost all times.
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2023, 01:21:26 AM »

It is a mental illness and how mental illness is handled needs to be modified. Body mutilation and lying to oneself and others is not the solution for a mental problem, it needs a solution that helps fix what is mentally broke or at least give the person the tools to endure if he or she cannot be fixed.
Estrogen allows me to endure. Frankly, I can't imagine enduring without estrogen. Like, I'm not mentally spectacular, but I am in a much better state than I was before I transitioned.

What’s wrong with testosterone, in terms of how it makes you feel?
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2023, 08:22:39 AM »

It is a mental illness and how mental illness is handled needs to be modified. Body mutilation and lying to oneself and others is not the solution for a mental problem, it needs a solution that helps fix what is mentally broke or at least give the person the tools to endure if he or she cannot be fixed.
Estrogen allows me to endure. Frankly, I can't imagine enduring without estrogen. Like, I'm not mentally spectacular, but I am in a much better state than I was before I transitioned.

What’s wrong with testosterone, in terms of how it makes you feel?
Honestly, I don't even really remember much about how T felt, but it was Not Good.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2023, 08:48:39 AM »

It is a mental illness and how mental illness is handled needs to be modified. Body mutilation and lying to oneself and others is not the solution for a mental problem, it needs a solution that helps fix what is mentally broke or at least give the person the tools to endure if he or she cannot be fixed.
Estrogen allows me to endure. Frankly, I can't imagine enduring without estrogen. Like, I'm not mentally spectacular, but I am in a much better state than I was before I transitioned.

What’s wrong with testosterone, in terms of how it makes you feel?
Honestly, I don't even really remember much about how T felt, but it was Not Good.

Hear me out, if you want bigger boobs you should do steroids. In the movie Fight Club Bob used to be a body builder, then the steroids messed up his body and he got bitch tits. Just a thought.
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2023, 09:22:42 AM »

Hear me out, if you want bigger boobs you should do steroids. In the movie Fight Club Bob used to be a body builder, then the steroids messed up his body and he got bitch tits. Just a thought.
Bob was cooking.
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2023, 11:30:28 AM »

You can reject transgenderism while still being compassionate to the individual.

Nope. "Love the sinner, reject the sin" is a bunch of horsesh**t.
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2023, 11:34:57 AM »

You can reject transgenderism while still being compassionate to the individual.

Nope. "Love the sinner, reject the sin" is a bunch of horsesh**t.
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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2023, 02:01:28 PM »

I'm surprised no one mentioned the TN shooting here.
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