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« on: November 15, 2010, 03:40:50 PM »

29. Robert T. Lincoln/Robert M. Lafollete (1921-1925)
30. Robert M. Lafollette/Calvin Coolidge (1925-1933)
31. Newton D. Baker/Harry F. Byrd (1933-1941)
32. Henry Ford/Robert Taft (1941-1945)
33. Charles Lindbergh/Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower/Estes Kefauver (1953-1965)
35. Joseph Patrick Kennedy II/Richard M Nixon (1965-1973)
36. Ronald W. Reagan/Henry M. Jackson (1973-1981)
37. Robert F. Kennedy/George Bush (1981-1993)
38. Jack F. Kemp/Albert Gore Jr. (1993-2001)
39. Jay Rockefeller/Colin Powell (2001-2009)
40. Rudolph W. Giuliani/Duncan Hunter (2009-Present)
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2010, 02:04:10 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2010, 09:54:44 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
What did you have in mind?

39. James E Carter (D-GA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN); 1977-1981
40. George Bush (R-TX)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV); 1981-1985
41. Edmund J. Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA); 1985-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Mike Gravel (D-AK); 1993-1997
43. Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Howard Dean (D-VT); 1997-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-Present

In this, Bush is elected instead of Reagan in 1980. He gets rid of Volcker, thus causing inflation to continue to rise. In 1984, California Senator Jerry Brown (who was elected to the Senate in '82) is elected in a landslide. Him and other more "Libertarian" minded Democrats instead act as fascists, creatin universal healthcare, expanding environmental laws, having children be forced to learn Buddhism ("your kids will meditate in school"), and all the great stuff mentioned in the song. This is just the first draft. I don't have the entire thing fleshed out in my head.
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2010, 10:01:49 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
What did you have in mind?

39. James E Carter (D-GA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN); 1977-1981
40. George Bush (R-TX)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV); 1981-1985
41. Edmund J. Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA); 1985-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Mike Gravel (D-AK); 1993-1997
43. Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Howard Dean (D-VT); 1997-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-Present

In this, Bush is elected instead of Reagan in 1980. He gets rid of Volcker, thus causing inflation to continue to rise. In 1984, California Senator Jerry Brown (who was elected to the Senate in '82) is elected in a landslide. Him and other more "Libertarian" minded Democrats instead act as fascists, creatin universal healthcare, expanding environmental laws, having children be forced to learn Buddhism ("your kids will meditate in school"), and all the great stuff mentioned in the song. This is just the first draft. I don't have the entire thing fleshed out in my head.

Oh, still an interesting list. I was in fact just using the Dead Kennedys song name as a stand-in name for a "Jerry '92" list name, not creating a TL based on the lyrics of th song.

Oh. I assumed you were talking about the idea I introduced for a timeline (in the "what should I write next?" thread). I thought you were just taking that and finding out what that would look like. (sorry for doubting you artistic intergrity)
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 10:06:06 PM »

By the way, Andy Jackson, since you're active, is there hope for Mankind Forever? You last updated on, I think, the sixth. I know you said to be patient and all, but I had to ask.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2011, 08:56:01 PM »

Thanks finnally, someone who understands me! I hope you are not really republican, republicans are SINNERS! SINNERS!

Uhhhhhhhh........
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 09:04:50 PM »

Thanks finnally, someone who understands me! I hope you are not really republican, republicans are SINNERS! SINNERS!

Uhhhhhhhh........

Ok, I will expand on my views.

Republicans and Tea Partiers are FAKE Conservatives. Old Democrats are real ones, thats why they are sinners.

I hope you understand that now.

What type? I don't know that much about 'old' politics. Do you mean Al Smith Dmeocrats? Disiecrats? FDR/Wilson Democrats?
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 10:48:48 PM »

Awesome list!
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2011, 12:28:10 AM »
« Edited: January 30, 2011, 10:16:18 AM by Cathcon »

40. John Anderson (I-IN)/Patrick Lucey (I-WI) 1981-1985
41. Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 1985-1993
42. Robert Casey(D-PA)/Samuel Nunn (D-GA) 1993-1997
43. H. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown Jr. (I-CA) 1997-2001
44. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/William J. "Bill" Bradley (D-NJ) 2001-2009
45. Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/Charles Hagel (I-NE) 2009-Present
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2011, 11:12:02 AM »

Great list, Mechaman. However, the 37th President should be Earl Warren, shouldn't it?
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 12:08:18 AM »

Watchmen Timeline

POD: The USA is victorious in Vietnam.

Richard M. Nixon (R-NY) (1969-1989)
Robert Redford (D-CA) (1989-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-present)

I know this is an old one, but I had hoped to do a Watcen based list or mini-TL and I accidentally found this.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 07:55:51 PM »

Another good list, ChairmanSanchez, though it's recommended that you just put the dates where they won, not the elections where they won. Also, Humphrey is spelled with an e.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 07:57:43 PM »

Awesome butterfly alternate list of Presidents.

36th: Lyndoan B. Johnson
37th: Richard Nixsen
38th: Jerald Ford
39th: Jammie Carter
40th: Ronald Reygan
41st: George H. W. Buhs
42nd: Bill Clintoan
43rd: George W. Bush
44th: Brrock Obama

Defeated candidates includes Paul Tsonagus, Jerry Browan, Hubert Humphry etc.

All of these people were / are President. All you did was botch the spellings....Huh

You're too new to know who Gporter is.

Oh...who is he?

Gporter is ia poster who in one of his timelines started in 1988 and didn't change much until 1996, and in another started in 1972 and didn't have any major butterflies till 1980. He also spelled the names of certain politicians wrong, which has resulted in things like this.
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 09:52:01 PM »
« Edited: March 13, 2011, 04:49:05 PM by Working Man »

Progressivism Now

28. Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY)/Hiram Johnson (P-CA); 1913-1919
29. Hiram Johnson (P-CA)/vacant; 1919-1921

30. John W Davis (D-WV)/Newton D Baker (D-OH); 1921-1929
31. Newton D baker (D-OH)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY); 1929-1933

32. Franklin D Roosevelt (P-NY)/Herbert C Hoover (P-CA), Henry Wallace (P-IA); 1933-1945
33. Henry Wallace (P-IA)/vacant; 1945-1949

34. Dwight D Eisenhower (M-NY)/Joseph Martin Jr. (M-MA); 1949-1957
35. Douglas MacArthur (C-AR)/Barry M Goldwater (C-AZ); 1957-1961
36. Nelson A Rockefeller (P-NY)/Philip Wilkie (P-IN); 1961-1967
37. Philip Wilkie (P-IN)/vacant; 1967-1969

38. Gerald R Ford (M-MI)/George HW Bush (M-CT); 1969-1977
39. George W Romney (P-MI)/Frank Church (P-ID); 1977-1981
40. Charlton Heston (C-CA)/William F Buckley (C-CT); 1981-1989
41. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (M-CA)/Paul E Tsongas (M-MA); 1989-1997
42. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (P-AR)/Russel Feingold (P-WI); 1997-2005
43. Robert Duvall (C-CA)/Orrin Hatch (C-UT); 2005-Present

In 1912, former President Theodore Roosevelt was able to pull off a surprising win against incumbent President William Howard Taft and the Democratic candidate Woodrow Wilson. During his tenure, World War I, then known as the Great War, began, and ended up with the divvying up of Europe. In 1919, President Roosevelt had high approvals. However, he sadly died that year and was succeeded by Vice-President Hiram Johnson.

In 1920, Democrat John W David was elected President, the first Democrat to hold the office in a long time. Despite much electoral success for the Democrats, in 1929, after years of economic growth, the stock market came crashing down and with it the chances of the Democrats gainig a fourth consecutive term. Governor of New York and former Ambassador Franklin D Roosevelt, who was a cousin of the idolized late President Roosevelt, easily won the Progressive nomination, choosing former Ambassador Herbert Hoover, who had worked as a businessman, a philanthropist. In addition to that, Hoover had been appointed Ambassador to France in the aftermath of World War II. the team won in a landslide ushering in a new era of Progressivism. With Roosevelt's New Deal, the American people were put at ease despite unemployment being at 20%.

In 1936, Roosevelt won easily over former Vice-President Alfred E Smith. Meanwhile, the Republican Party continued to retreat into the political background as the battle became mainly between the Democrats and the Progressives. However, the progressives soon eclipsed the Democrats as well with continued landslide victories. The Democratic insistance on nominating Northern moderates such as the former Vice-President Al Smith, and later Massachusetts Governor Joseph Patrick Kennedy led to the South eventually leaving the Democratic Party in 1944. Also, in 1940, Roosevelt replaced Vice-President Herbert Hoover with his own agriculture Secretary, Henry Wallace, in 1940. In 1944, Progressives went on to win a fourth consecutive term once again crushing the opposition, with only the then-newly formed States Rights Party winning any states.

During the late 1930's and early-mid 1940's, World War II took place, a terribly bloody war that was the result of the divvying up of Europe after 'The Great War', and the delusions of the mad-man General Adolf Hitler. Roosevelt attacked Germany in 1939, beginning American involvement in the war.

In 1945, only months after beginning his fourth term, President Roosevelt died from a cerebral heorrhage. Vice-President Henry Wallace, a good friend of President Roosevelt, took over. One of the acts that politically he would most regret was the withdrawal of American troops from Worl dWar II. With the economy eventually floundering under his wathc, General Dwight D Eisenhower announced an Independent bid against the embattled incumbent, creating the Moderate Party. He chose Congressman Joseph Martin Jr. for Vice-President. At the same time, Senators Arthur vandenberg and Robert Taft announced the creation of the Conservative Party. With only the States Rights Party and the Conservative Party acting as minor spoilers, Eisenhower was able to focus his resources on beating Wallace and he did.

For Eisnehower, his term started out fine with economic recovery. When 1952 rolled around he had led American forces in a battle against Korea and other minor wars and was a hero to the nation, winning re-election easily. However, the economy had its ups and downs and in 1956 the economy was back in a recession. For the first time, the Conservative Party was presented with a real opportunity. Allying with the States Rights Party, former General Dougles MacArthur won in a very close election.

Despite economic recovery, in 1960 Nelson Rockefeller, a Progressive who had worked for the FDR and Henry Wallad Administrations, and had been Governor of New York since 1955 won with Congressman Phil Wilkie of Indiana as his running mate. Phil Wilkie was the son of Progressive politician Wendell Wilki who had served as Commerce Secretary under FDR.

In 1967, President Rockefeller was tragically shot and Phil Wilkie took over. It was the Moderate Party's chance, and they ran Senator Gerald R Ford of Michigan and Governor George Bush of Connecticut. In 1976 Vice-President Bush failed to win against Senator George Romney and Frank Church.

In 1980, with the Cold War between Germany and the United States escalating, the conservatives once again took advantage of a weak economy, this time coupled with foreign policy fumbles, and easily overtook President Romney with the ticket of Governor turned Senator Charlton Heston of california and former Congressman William Buckley of Connecticut.

Another Californian would soon be elected as Governor Jerry Brown of California, a Progressive-turned-Centrist, was elected. Presideing over the downfall of Nazi Germany, he easily won re-election. In 1996, a Progressive dynasty, not the Roosevelts, returned to the Whitehouse with Governor Winthrop Paul Rockefeller of Arkansas winning a close election.

Currently, the United States is governed by President Robert Duvall.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2011, 03:11:52 PM »

The Party of Buckley

33. Harry Truman (D-MO)/vacant; 1945-1949
34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA); 1949-1953
35. Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL)/Estes Kefauver (D-TN); 1953-1961/color]
36. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Barry M Goldwater (R-AZ); 1961-1966
37. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/vacant; 1966-1969
38. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Ronald W Reagan (D-CA); 1969-1977
39. Ronald W Reagan (D-CA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN); 1977-1981
40. William F Buckley (R-NY)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV); 1981-1989
41. Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Jack F Kemp (R-NY); 1989-1993
42. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)/Joseph Lieberman (D-CT); 1993-2001
43. Jack F Kemp (R-NY)/JC Watts (R-OK); 2001-2009
44. JC Watts (R-OK)/Dick Lugar (R-IN); 2009-Present
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2011, 07:49:08 PM »

JFK isn't assassinated so LBJ is never elected, so here's the list from then on:

John F. Kennedy (D) (1961-1969)
Hubert H. Humphrey (D) (1969-1977)
Edmund Muskie (D) (1977-1981)
Ronald Reagan (R) (1981-1989)
Ron Paul (L) (1989-1997)
Richard Lugar (R)* (1997-2001)
Lamar Alexander (R)** (2001-2005)
George Pataki (R) (2005-2009)
Evan Bayh (D) (2009-Present)

* = Challanged in Primary by Alexander, drops out of race.
** = Does not run for re-election, endorses Pataki.

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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2011, 08:53:01 PM »

I love making these list Smiley
This one is not as realistic as my other ones.

1948-Earl Warren/Dwight Eisenhower
1952-Earl Warren/Dwight Eisenhower

1956-Hubert Humphrey/John Kennedy
1960-Hubert Humphrey/John Kennedy

1964-Barry Goldwater/William Scranton
1968-Barry Goldwater/William Scranton

1972-John Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1976-John Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1980-Henry Jackson/Mo Udall*
1981-Mo Udall/Birch Bayh
1984-Mo Udall/Birch Bayh
1988-Mo Udall/Barbara Jordan

1992-Lamar Alexander/Pete Wilson
1996-Lamar Alexander/Pete Wilson

2000-Bill Bradley/Bob Kerrey
2004-Bill Bradley/Bob Kerrey

2008-Bob Riley/Mitch Daniels

At least Barry Goldwater was President. Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2011, 09:37:37 PM »

I love making these list Smiley
This one is not as realistic as my other ones.

1948-Earl Warren/Dwight Eisenhower
1952-Earl Warren/Dwight Eisenhower

1956-Hubert Humphrey/John Kennedy
1960-Hubert Humphrey/John Kennedy

1964-Barry Goldwater/William Scranton
1968-Barry Goldwater/William Scranton

1972-John Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1976-John Kennedy/Henry Jackson
1980-Henry Jackson/Mo Udall*
1981-Mo Udall/Birch Bayh
1984-Mo Udall/Birch Bayh
1988-Mo Udall/Barbara Jordan

1992-Lamar Alexander/Pete Wilson
1996-Lamar Alexander/Pete Wilson

2000-Bill Bradley/Bob Kerrey
2004-Bill Bradley/Bob Kerrey

2008-Bob Riley/Mitch Daniels

At least Barry Goldwater was President. Tongue

I figured some of Kennedys skeletons in the closet would be found. I have a question, do they do collaborative list here. For example, one might post 1960-2012, and someone fills in a slot per turn?
Like this
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=162624

There are timelines where two or more posters collaborate, one posts an election and a term, then the other posts an election and a term or something like that.

A while back, Han and Dallasfan65 did "The Biggest Damned-Fool Mistake I Ever Made" about an Earl Warren Presidency. It was good, but they stopped after 1984. Please PM both of them and bug them until they update.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2011, 10:20:29 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2011, 09:42:37 AM by Cathcon »

Nixon Chooses Hatfield
Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR), John Connally (R-TX) 1969-1974
38. John Connally (R-TX)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 1974-1981

39. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA) 1981
40. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1989

41. Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 1989-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/David Boren (D-OK) 1993-1996
43. David Boren (D-OK)/Ann Richards (D-TX) 1996-1997
44. Ann Richards (D-TX)/John F Kerry (D-MA) 1997-2001

45. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/John Engler (R-MI) 2001-2009
46. Bill RIchardson (D-NM)/Michael Bloomberg (D-NY)

Losing Tickets
1972: Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/James E Carter (D-GA); Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Mike Gravel (I-AK)
1976: George McGovern (D-SD)/Terry Sanfrod (D-SC)
1980: Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Robert Dole (R-KS), Charles Matthias (I-MD)/Edward Brooke (I-MA)
1984: George Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1988: Walter F Mondale (D-MN)/Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
1992: Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL), Ron Paul (L-TX)/Barry M Goldwater Jr. (L-CA)
1996: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/John Ellis Bush (R-FL)
2000: John F Kerry (D-MA)/Zell Miller (D-GA)
2004: Howard Deant (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2008: John Ellis Bush (R-FL)/Judd Gregg (R-NM)
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2011, 10:53:55 PM »

Now, for a similar yet different list...

"What's Watergate?"

Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro T Agnew (R-MD), John Connally (R-TX) 1969-1977
38. John Conally (R-TX)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 1977-1981

39. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/James E Carter (D-GA) 1981-1989
40. Edward Finch (R-CA)/William E Cohen (R-ME) 1989-1997
41. Tom Daschle (D-SD)/Richard Gephardt (D-MO) 1997-2005
42. Pete Wilson (R-CA)/Richard B Cheney (R-WY), Olympia Snowe (R-ME)

Losing Tickets
1976: Senator Frank Church (D-ID)/Senator Birch Bayh (D-IN)
1980: President John Connally (R-TX)/Vice-PresidentHoward Baker (D-TN)
1984: Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum (R-KS), Former Senator James L Buckley (C-NY)/Congressman Phil Crane (C-IL)
1988: Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN), Former Senator James L Buckley (C-NY)/Congressman Newton Gingrich (C-GA)
1992: Senator Albert Gore (D-TN)/Governor Douglas Wilder (D-VA), Congressman Newton Gingrich (C-GA)/Activist Patrick J Buchanan (C-VA)
1996: Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)
2000: Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Former Governor Pete Willson (R-CA)
2004: Vice-President Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)
2008: John D "Jay" Rockefeller IV (D-WV)/Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL)
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2011, 10:55:27 PM »

I would say Nixon chose someone more conservative b/c the base was moving away from him and towards someone like Ashbrook.

Yeah. In real life, Hatfield was seen as a possible Vice-Presidential pick for Nixon. While it would've been interesting to see a Hatfield Presidency, I think that after one term, either Nixon would kick Hatfield off the ticket, or he'd leave anyway out of disgust. In his place, Nixon chose the Conservative Secretary Treasury John Connally.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2011, 11:32:35 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2011, 09:41:48 AM by Cathcon »

American Independence

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis E LeMay (AI-CA) 1969-1973
38. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Robert Finch (R-CA) 1973-1975
39. Robert Finch (R-CA)/Jacob Javitts (R-NY), Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1975-1981
40. Maurrice K Gravel (D-AK)/Gary Hart (D-CO) 1981-1989
41.Jesse Helms (AI-NC)/Pierres S "Pete" duPont, Newton L Gingrich (AI-GA) 1989-1997
42. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (R-AR)/William Weld (R-MA) 1997-2002
43. William Weld (R-MA)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) 2002-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Pete Wilson (R-CA)2005-2009
45. Zell Miller (AI-GA)/Douglas Hoffman (AI-NY) 2009-Present

List of Losing Tickets
1968: Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY), Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/Senator Wayne Morse (D-OR)
1972: President George Wallace (AI-AL)/George Smathers (AI-FL), Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD)
1976: Sentor Ronald Reagan (AI-CA)/Senator John Connally (AI-TX), Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/Governor Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)
1980: President Robert Finch (R-CA)/Vice-President Paul Laxalt (R-NV), Congressman John G Schmitz (AI-CA)/Senator James L Buckley (AI-NY)
1984: Former Speaker of the House Gerald R Ford (R-MI)/, Congressman Phil Crane (AI-IL)/General Alexander Haig (AI-PA)
1988: Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Former Senator James L Buckley (AI-NY), Vice-President Gary Hart (D-CO)/Senator Walter F Mondale (D-MN)
1992: Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Businessman H Ross Perot (D-TX), Vice-President Pierre S "Pete" duPont IV (R-DE)/Congressman Jack F Kemp (R-NY)
1996: Senator Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN), Senator William P "Phil" Gramm (AI-TX)/Former Governor Carrol a Campbell Jr. (AI-SC)
2000:  Senator William J "Bill" Bradely (D-NJ)/Governor Howard Dean (D-VT), Former Governor Carroll a Campbell Jr. (AI-SC)/Senator James Danforth "Dan" Quayle (AI-IN)
2004: President William A Weld (R-MA)/General Wesley Clark, Senator George Allen (AI-VA)/Congressman Duncan Hunter (AI-CA)
2008: Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)/Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH), President Howard Dean (D-VT)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)

37. George Wallace
In an incredibly tight election caused by Conservatives uniting behind Wallace rather than behind Eugene McCarthy or George Romney, Wallace was able to win, thus ushering in a new political party. His term was makred by an escalation and eventual victory in Vietnam and in Populist-Conservative economic and social policies.

38. Nelson Rockefeller
The 1968 Vice-Presidential nominee and the standard bearer of the GOP's Liberal wing, Rockefeller easily locked up the Republican nomination with several Conservatives having fled to Wallace's re-election campaign. Rockefeller's term started out rough with rising oil prices and stagflation, and got worse when he was shot during a visit to California.

39. Robert Finch
Finch had served as California's Lieutenant Governor for two years before Governor Ronald Reagan resigned to work as Secretary of Defense for Wallace. Finch by the time he became President had served two years as Lieutenant Governor, four as Governor, and over two as Vice-President. In 1976 he was easily re-elected because of the sympathy vote. However, he had a very bad second term with a worseninig economy and foreign crises he wasn't qualified to handle.

40. Mike Gravel
A two term Democratic Senator from Alaska who was known for his rather strange political positions, Gravel emerged as the frontrunner in a crowded field, winning New Hampshire by campaigning on his economic Libertarianism. From there he won much of the West and pieces of the North-East to give him the nomination. He chose fellow Westerner Gary Hart as his running mate.
During Gravel's two terms, the economy recovered thanks in large part to his economic recovery plan which involved tax cuts and economic stimulus. Despite personal scandal involving himself, as well as scandal involving his Vice-President, Gravel would go down in history as one of the better Presidents of the era.

41.Jesse Helms
A staunch Conservative who promised a return to the "Wallace Era", Helms was able to get enough votes to take the election to the House where he surprisingly won, working with a coalition of Conservatives in both the Republican and American Independent parties. In the Senate, however, the Republican Vice-Presidential nominee won out.
Helms' two terms were marked with his greatest accomplishment: the defeat of the Soviet Union. This was accomplished by ramping up military spendin to 1972 levels and ushering a military build up. During the Rockefeller-Finch-Gravel years, detente and negotiation had become the mantras, thus allowing the Soviet Union to survive. However, by 1995, the "Evil Empire" had been destroyed. Despite many people in more than one party accusing Helms of racism, he left office with a 53% approval rating.

42. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller
The son of Nelson Rockefeller's brother, Winthrop Rockefeller who was Governor of Arkansas for six years and Secretary of Agriculture for less than one, Winthrop Paul Rockefeller had by 1996 served for a short time as assistant Secretary of Agriculture, and Governor of Arkansas for four years. Having the name Rockefeller helped when he decided to enter the Republican primaries, and he won the Presidency as well. However, two years after winning re-election, the cancer that had killed his father in 1973 took his life as well.

43. William Weld
Much more economically Conservative than his predecessor, Weld worked on creating a blanced budget and basically working to ease out several of the programs that Winthrop had initiated. Before being Vice-President, Weld has been Governor of Massachusetts for six years and has worked as a federal prosecutor during the eighties. When 2005 rolled around, despite a good economy, he failed to win re-election.

44. Howard Dean
A Progressive with some very slight Libertarian leanings, Dean's campaign was reminiscient of Mike Gravel's in 1980. That, along with Gravel's endorsement, caused a number of Democrats to flock towards his campaign.
In office, he spent a lot of time working on the expansion of universal healthcare, which had first been passed by President Gravel.
Despite Dean's best intentions, the economy was in decline by 2006, and, although there was no financial crisis, there was a recession, and that was enough to cause him to lose.

45. Zell Miller
Formerly a Conservative Democrat, Miller began to consider joining the American Patriots during the 1980's when President Gravel was working on a nuclear freeze and universal healthcare. In 1990 he ran for and won Georgeia's Governorship as an American Independent, and was re-elected in 1994. During the 2000's he served as a Senator from his state, and in 2008 he was elected President.
Miller's tenure so far has been marked by attempts at de-regulation, social Conservatism, and tax cuts in order to alleviate the recession, though results have been mixed.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2011, 05:56:48 PM »

I'm going to try to put up an America and Onward 2.0 list. However, it's long and I'm not too sure about how good the lists are after the first country I detailed. The rest are kind of obvious/crappy.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2011, 08:15:43 PM »
« Edited: March 13, 2011, 04:51:37 PM by Working Man »

America and Onward (New Version)

Presidents/Vice-Presidents of the United States
32. Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1933-1937
33. Alfred Landon (R-KS)/Arthur H Vandenberg (R-MI) 1937-1941
34. Alben W Barkley (D-KT)/A Victor Donahey (D-OH) 1941-1943

The Great Depression was worse than anyone could imagine. By 1943, America was on its knees with riots by workers and the unemployed in nearly every major city. In an especially bloody riot in Washington DC, protestors, trampling the police and secret service, rushed the Whitehouse. That night, Washington DC went up in flames and President Barkley was killed in the bloodbath. America had collapsed. In its place rose four separate states. From 1943 they had begun building on the collapsed America, and by 1948, they were completely formed.


Blue-New England
Red-The Confederate States of America
Yellow-The Republic of Texas
Green-The Western Progressive Coalition

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents of New England
(Unlimited two year terms following 1948)

1. James Farley (N-NY) 1946-1949
2. Joseph P Kennedy (I-MA)/Adlai E Stevenson II (I-IN) 1949-1953
3. Adlai E Stevenson II (I-IL)/Paul A Dever (I-MA) 1953-1955
4. Prescott Bush (C-CT)/Nelson Rockefeller (C-CT) 1955-1957
5. Joseph P Kennedy II (I-MA)/Frank J Lausche (I-OH) 1957-1961
6. Nelson Rockefeller (L-NY)/Phillip Willkie (L-IN) 1961-1965
7. Michael DiSalle (I-OH)/John F Kennedy (I-MA) 1965-1971
8. Winthrop Rockefeller (L-NY)/John Chaffee (L-RI) 1971-1973
9. Robert F Kennedy (I-NY)/John Glenn (I-OH) 1973-1981
10. Gerald R Ford (C-MI)/George Bush (C-CT) 1981-1983
11. George Bush (C-CT)/Robert Taft Jr. (C-OH) 1983-1987

12. Shirley Chisholm (L-NY)/John D “Jay” Rockefeller IV (L-NJ) 1987-1989
13. Joseph Biden (I-NJ)/Michael Dukakis (I-MA) 1989-1995
14. Robert P Casey (I-PA)/Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) 1995-1997

15. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (C-NY)/Pierre S “Pete” DuPont (C-IN) 1997-2003
16. Carl Levin (I-MI)/Mario Cuomo (I-NY) 2003-2007
17. Howard Dean (L-VT)/Russell Feingold (L-WI) 2007-2009
18. John McCain (C-NY)/Joseph Lieberman (N-CT) 2009-Present

N-No Party
I-Industry Party
C-Commerce Party
L-Liberal Party

List of Congressional Leaders of the Western Progressive Coalition
(One five year term following 1950, special election in 1947)

1.William E Borah (I-ID) 1946-1947
2.Harold Stassen (P-MN) 1947-1950
3.George S Patton (N-CA) 1950-1955
4.Earl Warren (P-CA) 1955-1960
5.Hubert H Humphrey (FL-MN) 1960-1965
6.George S McGovern (FL-SD) 1965-1970
7.Eugene McCarthy (FL-MN) 1970-1975

8.Mark O Hatfield (L-OR) 1975-1980
9.Frank Church (FL-ID) 1980-1983
10.Mike Gravel (L-AK) 1983-1990
11.Walter Mondale. (FL-MN) 1990-1995
12.Robert Dole (F-KS) 1995-2000
13.Winona LaDuke (FL-MN) 2000-2005
14.Charles Hagel (F-NE) 2005-2010
15.Matthew Gonzalez (FL-CA) 2010-Present

I-Independent
P-Progressive
N-Nationalist
FL-Farmer-Labor
L-Liberal
F-Farmer

List of Presidents of the Republic of Texas
(Two four year terms after 1946)

1. John Nance Garner IV (N-TX) 1947-1951
2. Lyndon B Johnson (R-TX)/Ernest McFarland (R-AZ) 1951-1959
3. Barry Goldwater (C-AZ)/John Charles Vivian (C-CO) 1959-1967
4. Fred Harris (R-OK)/George W Romney (R-UT) 1967-1971
5. Joseph B Lee (C-UT)/John G Tower (C-TX) 1971-1979
6. Fred Harris (R-OK)/Richard Lamm (R-CO) 1979-1983
7. Barry Goldwater Jr. (C-NM)/David Boren (C-OK) 1983-1991
8. Ann Richards (R-TX)/Bruce King (R-NM) 1991-1999
9. H Ross Perot (I-TX)/Tom Tancredo (I-CO) 1999-2003
10. JC Watts (C-OK)/Don Goldwater (C-AZ) 2003-2011
11. Willard Vernon “Vern” Romney (R-UT)/Tom Udall (R-NM) 2011-Present*

*Vern Romney's middle name comes from a distant cousin who was a Utah State Senator. He himself was called Vern Romney, leading to some family confusion.

N-National Party
R-Reform Party
C-Conservative Party
I-Independent

List of Presidents of the Confederate States of America
(One six year term from 1948 onwards, elected by state legislatures up until 1984)

1. Huey B Long (P-LA) 1944-1949
2. Richard B Russell (D-GA) 1949-1955
3. J Strom Thurmond (D-SC) 1955-1961

4. Albert Gore Sr. (P-TN) 1961-1967
5. George Wallace (D-AL) 1967-1973
6. George Smathers (D-FL) 1973-1979

7. Russell B Long (P-LA) 1979-1985
8. Albert Gore Jr. (P-TN) 1985-1991

9. Robert Martinez (D-FL) 1991-1997
10. Elizabeth Warner (D-NC) 1997-2003*

11. John Edwards (P-SC) 2003-2009
12. Andres Garcia Menendez (D-FL) 2009-Present

*In the 1970's, Elizabeth Hanford, who was an aide to Populist Senator Russell B Long married Director of the Navy John Warner

P-Populist Party
D-Dixie Party
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2011, 08:22:55 PM »

US on a "West Wing" system. POD is Reagans death from a stroke.

1986-George HW Bush/Bob Dole
1990-George HW Bush/Bob Dole

1994-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards
1998-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards

2002-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush
2006-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush

2010-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2014-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2018-Andrew Cuomo/Ed Rendell


Defeated tickets
1986-Geraldine Ferraro/Joe Biden
1990-Joe Biden/Lawton Chiles

1994-Bob Dole/Paul Laxalt
1998-Jack Kemp/George Voinovich

2002-Ann Richards/Al Gore
2006-Al Gore/Bob Wise

2010-Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney
2014-Jon Huntsman/Scott Brown
2018-Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio


Does that term come from the show "the West Wing" because there was another timeline called "the West Wing" that had elections take place on what previously would have been the mid-terms. So is that what happened on the show?
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