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« Reply #625 on: July 18, 2010, 03:15:26 PM »

This TL ends with the swearing in of the President in 2017.

1952 Results
(D) Pres. Harry Truman/Vice Pres. Jim Byrnes:  198 EV
(R) Sen. Robert Taft/Gov. Thomas Dewey:  270 EV
(P) Former Vice Pres. Henry Wallace/former Sen. Herbert Hitchcock:  63 EV

1953-57
President
Senator Robert Taft (R-OH)

Vice President
Governor Thomas Dewey (R-NY)

1956 Results
(R) Pres. Robert Taft/Vice Pres. Thomas Dewey:  260 EV
(D) Sen. Lyndon Johnson/Gov. Frank Lausche:  271 EV

1957-61
President
Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)

Vice President
Governor Frank Lausche (D-OH)

With his popularity ratings hovering in the upper 30's, President Johnson announced he would retire at the end of his term.  Though speculation centered around the President's rapidly declining health.  Johnson would suffer a fatal heart attack on June 11, 1961.

1960 Results
(D) Sen. Robert F. Kennedy/Rep. Norman Mailer:  312 EV
(R) Former Vice Pres. Thomas Dewey/Sen. Richard Nixon:  219 EV

1961-65
President
Senator Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)

Vice President
Rep. Norman Mailer (D-NJ)

1964 Results
(D) Pres. Robert F. Kennedy/Vice Pres. Norman Mailer:  304 EV
(R) Gov. William Scranton/Sen. Margaret Chase Smith:  234 EV

President Kennedy is assasinated on August 22, 1965, while vacationing in Virginia Beach.  Vice President Norman Mailer becomes President and announces the nomination of Labor Secretary W. Willard Wirtz as Vice President, becoming one of the most liberal administrations in history.  Wirtz announces he will not be a candidate for office in 1968. 

1965-69
President
Vice President Norman Mailer (D-NJ)

Vice President
Labor Secretary W. Willard Wirtz (D-IL)

1968 Results
(D) Pres. Norman Mailer/Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey:  102 EV
(R) Gov. Nelson Rockefeller/Sen. Richard Nixon:  274 EV
(I) Gov. Ronald Reagan/Sen. Strom Thurmond:  98 EV
(AI) Former Gov. George Wallace/Sen. George Smathers:  64 EV

1969-73
President
Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)

Vice President, 1969-71
Senator Richard Nixon (R-CA)

Vice President, 1971-73
Governor John Volpe (R-MA)

Several public differences of opinion lead to the resignation of Vice President Richard Nixon in late 1971.  Some began to speculate that Nixon would mount and Independent bid for the White House, but he quickly announced he would challenge the incumbent President for renomination.  President Rockefeller chooses retiring Massachusetts Governor John Volpe to replace Nixon.  Nixon goes on to historically defeat a sitting President for renomination in 1972.

1972 Results
(R) Former Vice Pres. Richard Nixon/Rep. John Ashbrook:  170 EV
(D) Former Sec. of State James Roosevelt/Gov. Ella Grasso:  281 EV
(I) Gov. Ronald Reagan/Mayor Louie Welch:  87 EV

1973-81
President
Former Secretary of State James Roosevelt (D-CA)

Vice President
Governor Ella Grasso (D-CT)

1976 Results
(D) Pres. James Roosevelt/Vice Pres. Ella Grasso:  492 EV
(R) Rep. Eliot Richardson/former RNC Chair Anne Armstrong:  46 EV

1980 Results
(D) Sen. Ted Kennedy/Gov. Bob Graham:  214 EV
(R) Former Vice Pres. Richard Nixon/Sen. John Danforth:  324 EV

1981-89
President
Former Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)

Vice President
Senator John Danforth (R-MO)

1984 Results
(R) Pres. Richard Nixon/Vice Pres. John Danforth:  349 EV
(D) Gov. Bob Graham/Sen. John Glenn:  189 EV

1988 Results
(R) Vice Pres. John Danforth/former HUD Sec. Elizabeth Dole:  269 EV
(D) Gov. Tom Bradley/Sen. Sam Nunn:  269 EV

The election of 1988 saw the closest election in American history.  Neither candidate won a majority in the Electoral College, although Governor Bradley held a slim .08% national lead.  The election went to the House of Representatives where Democrats held a razor-slim 219-216 lead over Republicans.  The House voted 218 for Bradley to 217 for Danforth, thus electing the nation's first African American President and the third straight President from California.

1989-91
President
Governor Tom Bradley (D-CA)

Vice President
Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA)

Almost three years into his Presidency, Tom Bradley suffered a heart attack and died on Christmas Eve 1991.  Vice President Sam Nunn succeeded him and chose Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton as Vice President. 

1991-93
President
Vice President Sam Nunn (D-GA)

Vice President
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)

President Nunn addressed the nation on January 4, 1992, to announce he would not seek a full term as President and expressed his desire to return to the Senate in the near future.  He would indeed be elected to his old Senate seat in 1996.

1992 Results
(D) Vice Pres. Bill Clinton/Sen. Bob Kerrey:  280 EV
(R) Mr. Ross Perot/Sen. Bob Dole:  258 EV

1993-99
President
Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR)

Vice President
Senator Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

1996 Results
(D) Pres. Bill Clinton/Vice Pres. Bob Kerrey:  253 EV
(R) Gov. Bruce Benson/former Sen. Paula Hawkins:  250 EV
(I) Former Gov. Roy Romer/former SBA Regional Dir. Susan Collins:  35 EV

The 1996 election for President became divisive with entry of former Democratic Colorado Governor Roy Romer's entry as an Independent.  Many saw his candidacy as a spoiler to that of President Clinton's.  On election night, the Clinton/Kerrey ticket won 253 Electoral Votes and 44% of the vote to Colorado Governor Bruce Benson's 250 Electoral Votes and 43% popular vote.  Republicans controlled Congress at the time, with a large majority of Independents at 19.  With the help of the Independent caucus, the House voted to reelect Bill Clinton, giving him 222 votes.

In 1999, the Senate impeached the President Clinton and he became the first American President to be removed from office.  He had been charged and found guilty of lying under oath.  Vice President Kerrey assumed the office and chose recently retired longtime Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts to fill the vacancy.  Kennedy announced he would serve only as a placeholder until the next election.

1999-2005
President
Vice President Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

Vice President, 1999-2001
Former Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)

Vice President, 2001-05
Governor Mary Landrieu (D-LA)

2000 Results
(D) Pres. Bob Kerrey/Gov. Mary Landrieu:  275 EV
(R) Gov. Tom Ridge/House Speaker Newt Gingrich:  263 EV

President Bob Kerrey announced his retirement at the end of his term in 2005, citing his frustration in dealing with a Republican controlled Congress.  The biggest accomplishment of the Kerrey Administration, however, had been the granting of statehood to Guam and Puerto Rico, thus giving them voting members in the House, two Senators, and Electoral Votes at the Presidential level.

2004 Results
(D) Vice Pres. Mary Landrieu/Sen. Jay Rockefeller:  270 EV
(R) Gov. John Engler/former Sen. Jack Kemp:  274 EV

2005-13
President
Governor John Engler (R-MI)

Vice President, 2005-09
Former Senator Jack Kemp (R-NY)

Vice President, 2009-13
Former U.N. Ambassador Susan Schwab (R-MD)

In 2007, Vice President Jack Kemp announced he would retire at the end of his term and would not be a candidate for reelection with President Engler.

2008 Results
(R) Pres. John Engler/former U.N. Ambassador Susan Schwab:  303 EV
(D) Former Sen. John Edwards/former Treasury Sec. Robert Rubin:  241 EV

2012 Results
(R) Sen. Rob Portman/Sen. Sheila Frahm:  277 EV
(D) Gov. Martin O'Malley/Sen. Barack Obama:  267 EV

2013-17
President
Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)

Vice President
Senator Sheila Frahm (R-KS)

2016 Results
(R) Pres. Rob Portman/Vice Pres. Sheila Frahm:  219 EV
(D) Gov. Tim McGraw/Senator John F. Kennedy, Jr.:  325 EV

2017-
President
Governor Tim McGraw (D-TN)

Vice President
Senator John F. Kennedy, Jr. (D-NY)

Just a quick peak into the future:  I am elected President in 2048.  My first act as President is to declare the growing and sale of all things celery illegal.  God bless America.
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« Reply #626 on: July 18, 2010, 08:33:26 PM »

Reagan Assassinated in 1981
40. Ronald Wilson Reagan (R), 1981
41. George Herbert Walker Bush (R), 1981-1985
42. Edward Moore Kennedy (D), 1985-1993
43. Robert Joseph Dole (R), 1993-2001
44. Richard Gephardt (D), 2001-2009
45. John McCain (R), 2009-Present
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« Reply #627 on: August 05, 2010, 07:58:21 PM »

Response to a Historico challenge on the Alternate History Board, where the Rockefellers take the place of the Kennedy dynasty...


The Dead Rockefellers: POTUS list:

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-KS) January, 20 1953-January, 20 1961

35. Robert S. Kerr (D-OK) January, 20 1961-January, 1 1963

36. Paul Douglas (D-IL) January, 1 1963-January, 20 1965

37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY) January, 20 1965-January, 20 1973

38. Milton Young (R-ND) January, 20 1973-January, 20 1977

39. Frank Church (D-ID) January, 20 1977-January, 20 1981

40. John Ashbrook (R-OH) January, 20 1981-April, 24 1982

41. Bob Dole (R-KS) April, 24 1982-January, 20 1985

42. Gary Hart (D-CO) January, 20 1985-January, 20 1993

43. Jerry Brown (D-CA) January, 20 1993-January, 20 1997

44. Colin Powell (R-NY) January, 20 1997-January, 20 2005

45. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ) January, 20 2005-January, 20 2009

46. Cruz Bustamante (D-CA) January, 20 2009-...

 

VPOTUS list:

36. Richard Nixon (R-CA) January, 20 1953-January, 20 1961

37. Paul Douglas (D-IL) January, 20 1961-January, 1 1963

38. Milton Young (R-ND) January, 20 1965-January, 20 1973

39. Charles Mathias (R-MD) January, 20 1973-January, 20 1977

40. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) January, 20 1977-January, 20 1981

41. Bob Dole (R-KS) January, 20 1981-April, 24 1982

42. Pierre S. DuPont IV (R-NJ) May, 15 1982-January, 20 1985

43. John Glenn (D-OH) January, 20 1985-January, 20 1993

44. Harvey Gantt (D-NC) January, 20 1993-January, 20 1997

45. Carroll A. Campbell (R-SC) January, 20 1997-January, 20 2005

46. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (R-AK) January, 20 2005-July, 16 2006

47. George Allen (R-VA) August, 1 2006-January, 20 2009

48. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) January, 20 2009-...

 

Defeated tickets:

1960: VP Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador Henry C. Lodge (R-MA)

1964: Pres. Paul Douglas (D-IL)/Sen. George Smathers (D-FL)

1968: Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. John M. Patterson (D-AL)

1972: Sen. Henry Jackson (D-WA)/Fmr. Gov. Richard J. Hughes (D-NJ)

1976: Pres. Milton Young (R-ND)/VP Charles Mathias (R-MD)

1980: Pres. Frank Church (D-ID)/VP Robert Kennedy (D-NY)

1984: Pres. Bob Dole (R-KS)/VP Pierre DuPont (R-NJ)

1988: Sen. James Baker (R-TN)/Rep. Marjorie Holt (R-MD)

1992: Gov. Michael Rockefeller (R-NY)/Rep. Trent Lott (R-MS)

1996: Pres. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/VP Harvey Gantt (D-NC)

2000: Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL)

2004: Fmr. VP Harvey Gantt (D-NC)/Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI)

2008: Pres. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/VP George Allen (R-VA)
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« Reply #628 on: August 05, 2010, 07:59:33 PM »

Response to a Historico challenge on the Alternate History Board, where the Rockefellers take the place of the Kennedy dynasty...


The Dead Rockefellers: POTUS list:

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-KS) January, 20 1953-January, 20 1961

35. Robert S. Kerr (D-OK) January, 20 1961-January, 1 1963

36. Paul Douglas (D-IL) January, 1 1963-January, 20 1965

37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY) January, 20 1965-January, 20 1973

38. Milton Young (R-ND) January, 20 1973-January, 20 1977

39. Frank Church (D-ID) January, 20 1977-January, 20 1981

40. John Ashbrook (R-OH) January, 20 1981-April, 24 1982

41. Bob Dole (R-KS) April, 24 1982-January, 20 1985

42. Gary Hart (D-CO) January, 20 1985-January, 20 1993

43. Jerry Brown (D-CA) January, 20 1993-January, 20 1997

44. Colin Powell (R-NY) January, 20 1997-January, 20 2005

45. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ) January, 20 2005-January, 20 2009

46. Cruz Bustamante (D-CA) January, 20 2009-...

 

VPOTUS list:

36. Richard Nixon (R-CA) January, 20 1953-January, 20 1961

37. Paul Douglas (D-IL) January, 20 1961-January, 1 1963

38. Milton Young (R-ND) January, 20 1965-January, 20 1973

39. Charles Mathias (R-MD) January, 20 1973-January, 20 1977

40. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY) January, 20 1977-January, 20 1981

41. Bob Dole (R-KS) January, 20 1981-April, 24 1982

42. Pierre S. DuPont IV (R-NJ) May, 15 1982-January, 20 1985

43. John Glenn (D-OH) January, 20 1985-January, 20 1993

44. Harvey Gantt (D-NC) January, 20 1993-January, 20 1997

45. Carroll A. Campbell (R-SC) January, 20 1997-January, 20 2005

46. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (R-AK) January, 20 2005-July, 16 2006

47. George Allen (R-VA) August, 1 2006-January, 20 2009

48. Maria Cantwell (D-WA) January, 20 2009-...

 

Defeated tickets:

1960: VP Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Ambassador Henry C. Lodge (R-MA)

1964: Pres. Paul Douglas (D-IL)/Sen. George Smathers (D-FL)

1968: Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. John M. Patterson (D-AL)

1972: Sen. Henry Jackson (D-WA)/Fmr. Gov. Richard J. Hughes (D-NJ)

1976: Pres. Milton Young (R-ND)/VP Charles Mathias (R-MD)

1980: Pres. Frank Church (D-ID)/VP Robert Kennedy (D-NY)

1984: Pres. Bob Dole (R-KS)/VP Pierre DuPont (R-NJ)

1988: Sen. James Baker (R-TN)/Rep. Marjorie Holt (R-MD)

1992: Gov. Michael Rockefeller (R-NY)/Rep. Trent Lott (R-MS)

1996: Pres. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/VP Harvey Gantt (D-NC)

2000: Sen. Tom Daschle (D-SD)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL)

2004: Fmr. VP Harvey Gantt (D-NC)/Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI)

2008: Pres. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/VP George Allen (R-VA)


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« Reply #629 on: August 05, 2010, 08:02:02 PM »

Reagan Assassinated in 1981
40. Ronald Wilson Reagan (R), 1981
41. George Herbert Walker Bush (R), 1981-1985
42. Edward Moore Kennedy (D), 1985-1993
43. Robert Joseph Dole (R), 1993-2001
44. Richard Gephardt (D), 2001-2009
45. John McCain (R), 2009-Present


Why does Bush Sr. lose in 1984? Does he reduce the Fed's power and thus block Volcker from reducing inflation? Other than that, pretty reasonable list.
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« Reply #630 on: August 05, 2010, 09:52:09 PM »

Response to a Historico challenge on the Alternate History Board, where the Rockefellers take the place of the Kennedy dynasty...

Oh hey, it's Masked Pickle! Nice to see you here!

Thanks a lot! I might undertake a new TL soon...
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« Reply #631 on: August 06, 2010, 12:48:56 PM »

POTUS List -
1961-1969: Richard Nixon (R)
1969-1977: Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R)
1977-1981: Jimmy Carter (D)
1981: Ronald Reagan (R) assassinated
1981-1989: Gerald Ford (R)
1989-1997: Bob Dole (R)
1997-2005: Al Gore (D)
2005-present: John McCain (R)

VPOTUS List -
1961-1969: Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. (R)
1969-1977: Ronald Reagan (R)
1977-1981: Walter Mondale (D)
1981: Gerald Ford (R)
1981-1985: Vacant
1985-1989: Ben Fernandez (R)
1989-1996: Bob Packwood (R) resigned
1996-1997: Vacant
1997-2005: Joe Biden (D)
2005-present: Mitt Romney (R)

Losing Tickets (in the spirit of Masked Pickle Smiley ) -
1960: John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson (D)
1964: Hubert Humphrey/Robert Kennedy (D)
1968: Lyndon Johnson/George McGovern (D)
1972: George McGovern/Thomas EagletonSargent Shriver (D)
1976: Ronald Reagan/Richard Shweiker (R)
1980: Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (R)
1984: John Glenn/Alan Cranston (D)
1988: Gary Hart/Al Gore (D)
1992: Paul Tsongas/Bill Clinton (D)
1996: Lamar Alexander/Phil Gramm (R)
2000: George W. Bush/Orrin Hatch (R)
2004: Joe Biden/Bill Richardson (D)
2008: Howard Dean/Barack Obama (D)

Election 2012 (just for s**ts and giggles) -
Mitt Romney/Mike Huckabee (R)
Barack Obama/Bill Richardson (D)
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« Reply #632 on: August 17, 2010, 11:08:24 PM »

The Little Hero from Little Dixie
37. Richard M. Nixon (R-NY) January 20th, 1969 - March 16th, 1974***
Acting. Carl B. Albert (D-OK) March 16th, 1974 - May 23rd, 1974***
38. Gerald R. Ford, Jr. (R-MI) May 23rd, 1974 - January 20th, 1977***
39. James "Jimmy" E. Carter, Jr. (D-GA) January 20th, 1977 - January 20th, 1981
40. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1981 - March 30th, 1981**
41. Philip "Phil" M. Crane (R-IL) March 30th, 1981 - January 20th, 1985
42. Gary Hart (D-CO) January 20th, 1985 - September 13th, 1987***
43. Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr. (D-TX) September 13th, 1987 - January 20th, 1993
44. Carroll A. Campbell, Jr. (R-SC) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 2001
45. Paul R. Krugman (D-MA) January 20th, 2001 - September 11th, 2001**
46. D. Ann W. Richards (D-TX) September 11th, 2001 - January 20th, 2005*
47. Richard C.A. Holbrooke (D-NY) January 20th, 2005 - January 20th, 2009
48. J.C. Watts, Jr. (R-OK) January 20th, 2009 - Current*


***Attempting to push John Connally's name through Congress failed in January 1974. The Watergate scandal hit harder than thought and Congress held up Gerald Ford's nomination in a "hostage negotiation" about the President's involvement in the issue. Nixon wouldn't face this and decided to resign the office of the presidency, causing a constitutional crisis.

***Albert was a calm, short, unsuspecting man to be crowned "The Little Hero". It was Albert's actions during the constitutional crisis if another political party could succeed the presidency of the opposite political party. Many pointed that Treasury Secretary Schultz should succeed Nixon, but Schultz would not have it and resigned. This ended the debate and led to Ford's confirmation. Albert in response, resigned.

***Ford succeeded Albert to become the 38th President of the United States. Ford's term was similar to OTL's, with only the major change of a Vice President George H.W. Bush. In a close race, Ford would loose to outsider Jimmy Carter.

**While visiting the Washington Hotel Hilton for a luncheon address to the AFL-CIO, Bush is shot and killed by deranged John Hinckley. Hinckley will tell the police that the murder of Bush was to "impress" Jodie Foster.

***During 1987, allegations surfaced that Hart had been "monkeying around". Facts began to appear, Donna Rice, Hart's private yacht the Monkey Business and statements from Rice herself. "Ricegate" hit Hart hard, his approvals and hope for reelection was falling. After months of a zoo like fervor, Hart resigned the presidency. "Ricegate" would also have an impact with the Republicans, who nominated Pat Robertson, who lost the election after a serious of large stumbles.

**First Jewish President, while visiting Florida to talk about education. There, Krugman met several "interviewers" for a poolside interview. The interviewers then whipped guns out and killed Krugman, being killed in the process. The assassins were connected to Al-Qaeda and the "War of Presidential Justice" began.

*First Female President, chose not to run for reelection because she had been diagnosed with esophageal cancer. She would die later in 2006.

*First African American President, elected on a mandate of change in a relatively pro democratic year. Only the nomination of Defense Secretary Miller and the end of major hostilities in Afghanistan in 2007 pushed people to want something new for a new decade. For now, Watts is ruling over a nation with a booming economy and peacetime, but stormclouds are gathering on the Korean peninsula.
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« Reply #633 on: August 18, 2010, 08:09:24 PM »

Former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt (D-NY), 1941-57*
Vice President Harry F. Byrd, Jr. (D-VA), 1957-61
Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA), 1961-63**
Vice President Lyndon Johnson (D-TX), 1963-65
Senator Richard Nixon (R-CA), 1965-73
Former American Airlines CEO Cyrus R. Smith (D-TX), 1973-74***
Vice President Margaret Truman (D-IL), 1974-77
Former President John F. Kennedy (D-MA), 1977-85
Former Senator John Tower (R-TX), 1985-89
Vice President Phil Crane (R-IL), 1989-93
Former Attorney General Ruth Harkin (D-IA), 1993-97
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA), 1997-2001
Governor Christina Campbell (R-KS), 2001****
Vice President John McCain (R-AZ), 2001-09
Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA), 2009-Present

*Term limits were passed in 1952, but did not affect President Roosevelt, as she was currently serving.

**President Kennedy is wounded in an assassination attempt.  When it became apparent he would not wake up from the coma, power was transferred to Vice President Johnson.  Kennedy would awaken from his coma on January 20, 1965.  Twelve years later, he was elected President again.

***A year after taking office, President Smith suffered a massive heart attack and died.

****President Campbell was lost at sea when Air Force One crashed.  The wreckage was never recovered.
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« Reply #634 on: August 29, 2010, 07:08:26 PM »

FDR Dies in 1921: Rise of the Progressives

The POD is that the polio that struck Franklin D. Roosevelt during his vacation in 1921 turns fatal. Due to butterflies, Robert LaFollette Sr. runs a stronger campaign paving the way for the Progressive Party to become the major opposition to the Republicans after the stock market crash of 1929 and winning the White House in 1932

31. Herbert Hoover (R-CA): 1929-1933
32. Burton K. Wheeler (P-MT): 1933-1941
33. Robert LaFollette, Jr. (P-WI): 1941-1946
34. Henry Wallace (P-IA): 1946-1949

35. Charles Lindbergh (R-MI): 1949-1950
36. Harold Stassen (R-MN): 1950-1953

37. Dwight Eisenhower (D-PA): 1953-1959
38. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL): 1959-1961

39. Claude Pepper (P-FL): 1961-1964
40. Hubert H. Humphrey (P-MN): 1964-1973

41. Charlton Heston (D-MI): 1973-1978
42. Edward Brooke (R-MA): 1978-1981
43. Charles Matthias (P-MD): 1981-1989
44. Roger Staubach (D-TX): 1989-1997
45. Dianne Feinstein (P-CA): 1997-2005
46. Hillary Rodham Daley (D-IL): 2005-2009
47. Michael Bloomberg (P-NY): 2009-Present

Notes:
32. First Progressive Party nominee elected POTUS. Pushed OTL version of the New Deal to get the country out of the Great Depression and during his second term, he announced that the country would stay out of a possible future war in Europe. This included no Lend Lease to the United Kingdom in 1940. With no help from the US, Prime Minister Winston Churchill was forced to resign after six months in office.

33. Son of 1924 Progressive Party nominee, the younger LaFollette succeeded his father in the US Senate. Did not run for President in 1932 and many historians speculated it was due to his bouts with depression. He served as US Attorney General during the Wheeler administration, and in this position he discovered that FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover engaged in unconstitutional activities against organized crime including illegal wiretapping (resulting in President Wheeler firing Hoover in 1936). LaFollette promised to continue Wheeler’s neutrality policies regarding World War II. However, that promise was broken when the Japanese attacked US military bases in Guam, the Philippines, and Pearl Harbor in Hawaii on December 7, 1941. When Germany declared war on the USA, President LaFollette asked Congress to declare war on Germany. This enabled LaFollette to request Lend Lease for the UK (signed an armistice which Germany) which pleased Prime Minister Lord Halifax. By the summer of 1944, the Allies defeated the Third Reich and Italy, ending the war in Europe. A week before Election Day, the US dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which forced the Japanese to surrender

President LaFollette’s second term turned out to be more difficult as the conversion to a peace time economy led to a recession and labor unrest. While LaFollette supported the creation of the United Nations and NATO, he opposed foreign aid (earlier end to World War II meant the USSR was unable to spread Communism to Eastern Europe, therefore no Marshall Plan. Instead, there was a ten-year moratorium on American tariffs on European goods). Combined with the Communist takeovers in China and North Korea, the Republicans were able to end the Progressive majorities in Congress in the 1946 elections. On November 22, 1946, LaFollette was discovered dead at his desk in the Oval Office due to an overdose of sleeping pills.
 
34. Wallace served as Secretary of Agriculture in the Wheeler administration and was Vice President under LaFollette. Facing a Republican Congress and its (mostly southern) Democratic allies, Wallace was unable to get any legislation passed. Tired of 16 years of Progressive control of the White House, the GOP ticket of Senator Charles Lindbergh of Michigan and Minnesota Governor Harold Stassen won a landslide victory of President Wallace and his running mate, Senator Harry Truman of Missouri, and the Democratic ticket of Senator Harry Byrd of Virginia and former Oklahoma Governor Robert Kerr.

35. A famous aviator and a leading isolationist, Lindbergh was elected to the US Senate in 1944. He reluctantly agreed to accept the Republican nomination for President after the national convention was deadlocked between Thomas Dewey and Robert Taft. Lindbergh was seen as acceptable to conservatives and moderates in the party. In his short time in office, President Lindbergh was able to get the Taft-Hartley Act passed. With the help of Progressives and northern Democrats, the Civil Rights Act of 1949 was passed (15 years earlier than OTL). On November 1, 1950, Lindbergh was assassinated by Puerto Rican nationalists Griselio Torresola and Oscar Collazo.

36. Stassen’s Presidency was plagued by a stalemate in the Korean War, a backlash from conservatives over his firing of General Douglas Macarthur for insubordination, and racial riots stemming from the assassination of civil rights activist, Rev. Adam Clayton Powell, Jr.

37. A hero of World War II, General Eisenhower decided to run for the Democratic Presidential nomination and he benefited from a Stop Estes Kefauver movement at the convention as Southern delegates and the moderate wing of the Democrats supported Eisenhower. Americans liked Ike and not even President Stassen or Progressive Party nominee Vito Marcantonio could stop the Democrats from winning its first Presidential race since 1916. The stresses of dealing with the crises in Cuba and the Middle East resulted in Eisenhower suffering a fatal heart attack on August 30, 1959.

39. Pepper became the first Progressive elected to the US Senate from the South. His popularity at home ended the Democrats monopoly in Florida politics. In 1956, Pepper was Wayne Morse’s running mate. In 1960, he was unchallenged for his party’s nomination and selected Hubert Humphrey as his running mate. Due to the unpopularity of President Stevenson and the extreme conservatism of the Knowland-Goldwater ticket, Pepper won a 42 state landslide. Tragically, Pepper’s life was cut short due to the stress of dealing with the American-Cuban War and he suffered a fatal stroke on January 14, 1964.
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« Reply #635 on: August 29, 2010, 07:10:08 PM »

40. Humphrey’s 9 years and 6 days in office is the longest serving Presidency to date. Inheriting the American-Cuban War from Pepper, the conflict ended in 1965 at the Battle of Sierra Maestre with the US victorious (the Cuban army fought to the last man). Anti-communist exiles returned to Cuba to draw up a constitution and return democracy to the island, which it remains to this very day.

41. A former actor, Heston became a leading voice of the conservative movement with his “Time for Choosing” speech at the 1964 Democratic National Convention. His popularity from that speech led to his election as Governor of California in 1966. His election to the Presidency in 1972 brought realignment in politics as the Democrats became more conservative. A recession and rising gas prices marked his first term. Although Republican Nelson Rockefeller had a plurality of popular and electoral votes, the 1976 election would be decided by Congress. Rockefeller’s running mate, Senator Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, was elected Vice President by the Senate due to the combined support of Republicans and Progressives (the result was announced by Vice President Robert F. Kennedy in his role as President of the Senate). In the House, the Democrats had the majority and controlled 27 state delegations; Heston was reelected.

After Heston was re-inaugurated, reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein uncovered a wiretapping scandal and an attempted burglary at the Progressive Party’s National office near the Watergate Hotel. The backlash resulted in the Progressives sweeping the 1978 Congressional races. Faced with impeachment hearings by the incoming new Congress, Heston resigned from the Presidency on December 21, 1978.

42. First African-American President

44. First former professional athlete elected President (Governor of Texas from 1983-1989)

45. First female President

47. First Jewish President

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« Reply #636 on: August 31, 2010, 02:47:40 PM »

1969-1974: Richard Nixon (R)

1974-1981: Spiro Agnew (R)

1981-1989: Jacqueline Kennedy (D)

1989-1993: Robert Redford (D)

1993-2001: Colin Powell (R)

2001-2005: Elizabeth Dole (R)

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« Reply #637 on: November 15, 2010, 12:30:22 AM »

A Double Tragedy
POD: Johnson is assassinated a day after Kennedy by secret service agent Gerald Blaine.

35. John "Jack" F. Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1961 - November 22nd, 1963**
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) November 22nd, 1963 - November 23rd, 1963**
Acting. John W. McCormack (D-MA) November 23rd, 1963 - January 20th, 1965***
37. John W. McCormack (D-MA) January 20th, 1965 - January 20th, 1969
38. J. Terry Sanford (D-NC) January 20th, 1969 - March 29th, 1972**
39. Robert "Bobby" F. Kennedy (D-MA) March 29th, 1972 - January 20th, 1973
40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) January 20th, 1973 - January 20th, 1981*
41. Robert "Bobby" F. Kennedy (D-MA) January 20th, 1981 - March 30th, 1981**
42. Dale L. Bumpers (D-AR) March 30th, 1981 - January 20th, 1989*
43. Ronald "Ron" E. Paul (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993*
44. Samuel "Sam" A. Nunn, Jr. (D-GA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 2001
45. John R. Kasich (R-OH) January 20th, 2001 - November 4th, 2001**
46. Jane Dee Hull (R-AZ) November 4th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009***
47. Lynda Bird Johnson Hamilton (D-CA) January 20th, 2009 - Current Date*

**Assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas.

**Assassinated by accident by secret service agent Gerald Blaine.

***First Speaker to ascend to the Presidency. Constitutional haggling made McCormack a "Acting President" from '63-'65.

**Assassinated by Arthur Bremer on a campaign trip in Wisconsin.

*First Republican in 12 years. Remembered for "Reaganomics", economic recession of late 70's and bloody quagmire in Iran.

**Became the first non consecutive President since Grover Cleveland. Assassinated by John Hinckley, Jr.

*Elected in close election, remembered for economic recession and inaction to Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and slaughter of Kurds and Kuwaiti's.

**Assassinated on the 22nd anniversary of the Tehran hostage crisis by the Iranian arm of Al-Qaeda and the their leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

***First Female President, led the War on Islamic Fundamentalism and the wars in Iran and Afghanistan. Won a disputed election in 2004 and governed over the economic downturn in 2007.

*A political darkhorse for the Democratic nomination, Johnson Hamilton won upsets and secured the nomination. Was criticized for the VP choice of Ron Reagan. Beat young VP Watts for the Presidency.
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« Reply #638 on: November 15, 2010, 03:40:50 PM »

29. Robert T. Lincoln/Robert M. Lafollete (1921-1925)
30. Robert M. Lafollette/Calvin Coolidge (1925-1933)
31. Newton D. Baker/Harry F. Byrd (1933-1941)
32. Henry Ford/Robert Taft (1941-1945)
33. Charles Lindbergh/Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower/Estes Kefauver (1953-1965)
35. Joseph Patrick Kennedy II/Richard M Nixon (1965-1973)
36. Ronald W. Reagan/Henry M. Jackson (1973-1981)
37. Robert F. Kennedy/George Bush (1981-1993)
38. Jack F. Kemp/Albert Gore Jr. (1993-2001)
39. Jay Rockefeller/Colin Powell (2001-2009)
40. Rudolph W. Giuliani/Duncan Hunter (2009-Present)
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« Reply #639 on: November 16, 2010, 01:09:18 AM »

Rebirth of the Old Right: A three party America

35. John F Kennedy (Dem/AC) 1961-1965: Over the later half of his administration he grew restless with the racism and Progressivism of the Democrat party. He came clean about his affairs and sought forgivness from both Jackie and the nation. Jackie granted it and the nation did as well but to a lesser extent. An alliance with Goldwater and the Conservative wing of the GOP who was kicked out of the party by the Rockafeller wing. He was defeated in Congress after neither candidacy could gain the 270 needed.

36: LBJ (Dem) 1965-1969: Cements interventionistim as a Progressive plank. Arranges "Gulf of Tonkin" as pretext to act in Veitnam. Administration goes as otl RFK and MLK survive and join JFK/Goldwater alliance.

37: Richard Nixon: (Rep) 1969-1974: OTL with the exception of a Soviet Nuke somehow got to a group of radical Islamists. This will have ramifications within a generation. Removed over Watergate

38: Nelson Rockefeller: (Rep) 1974-1977: Unpopular with GOP due to compromise with Conservatives over an amendment where each congressional district equals an electoral vote and the winner of a state popular vote would receive the two electoral votes that equal the states Senators. Also focused on relations with Latin America. VP was former Conneticut Senator and Nixon CIA chief George HW Bush Sr.

39: James "Jimmy" Carter: (Dem) 1977-1981: The Carter administration was often plagued with mistake after mistake. His tax hikes and gas rationing along with an attempt at Universal Healthcare laws were only met with peaceful citizen protests. Former VP canidate and California Governor Ronald Reagan along with Minister and Civil Rights activist Dr. Martin Luther King Jr handed Carter along with the GOP ticket of Bush/Anderson a landslide defeat.

40: Ronald Wilson Reagan:  (AC) 1981-1987:  The first Conservative administration in twenty years starts under a somber tone as Reagan had to eulogize JFK after his passing on Janurary 13th due to heart problems. Proposes a new vision of America that cuts government spending, drastic tax cuts, and a return to the Old Right view of foreign policy. His first term was focused on domestic issues   The issue of abortion concerned him as well as Social Conservatives. Roe v Wade was overturned upon Bork's confirmation to the Supreme Court. Tax reform was brought through the abolition of the 16th Amendment in 1984. Instead a ten percent national sales tax was insituted. His second term was full of reaching out to solidify relations with allies like Avalon (otl UK which became an American style Republic) under Prime Minister Margret Thatcher, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan(recognized as it's own country under Rockafeller), and most Commonwelth nations as well as Latin America. His greatest dream was to tear down the Iron Curtain. It would appear there would be detante between the superpowers until EU agents disguised as Soviet Spetznaz assassinate him as he makes the "Tear Down this Wall" speech. Gorbechov was also killed but by hardliners disguised as Green Berets.

41: Rev Dr Martin Luther King Jr: (AC) 1987-1997: A man of peace reluctantly leads the nation through a war which lasted for almost four years.  Most of the fighting was in the satellite states of Estonia, Latvia, Ukriane, and Belarus. Cuban freedom fighters also oust the Castros and at the end of the Brandenburg War. Presided over the admission of Cuba and Puerto Rico as states.



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« Reply #640 on: November 16, 2010, 09:45:29 PM »

The Dead Rockefellers: POTUS list:

46. Cruz Bustamante (D-CA) January, 20 2009-...

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« Reply #641 on: November 27, 2010, 12:31:03 AM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date
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« Reply #642 on: November 27, 2010, 02:04:10 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
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« Reply #643 on: November 27, 2010, 09:38:13 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
What did you have in mind?
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« Reply #644 on: November 27, 2010, 09:54:44 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
What did you have in mind?

39. James E Carter (D-GA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN); 1977-1981
40. George Bush (R-TX)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV); 1981-1985
41. Edmund J. Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA); 1985-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Mike Gravel (D-AK); 1993-1997
43. Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Howard Dean (D-VT); 1997-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-Present

In this, Bush is elected instead of Reagan in 1980. He gets rid of Volcker, thus causing inflation to continue to rise. In 1984, California Senator Jerry Brown (who was elected to the Senate in '82) is elected in a landslide. Him and other more "Libertarian" minded Democrats instead act as fascists, creatin universal healthcare, expanding environmental laws, having children be forced to learn Buddhism ("your kids will meditate in school"), and all the great stuff mentioned in the song. This is just the first draft. I don't have the entire thing fleshed out in my head.
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« Reply #645 on: November 27, 2010, 09:58:42 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
What did you have in mind?

39. James E Carter (D-GA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN); 1977-1981
40. George Bush (R-TX)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV); 1981-1985
41. Edmund J. Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA); 1985-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Mike Gravel (D-AK); 1993-1997
43. Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Howard Dean (D-VT); 1997-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-Present

In this, Bush is elected instead of Reagan in 1980. He gets rid of Volcker, thus causing inflation to continue to rise. In 1984, California Senator Jerry Brown (who was elected to the Senate in '82) is elected in a landslide. Him and other more "Libertarian" minded Democrats instead act as fascists, creatin universal healthcare, expanding environmental laws, having children be forced to learn Buddhism ("your kids will meditate in school"), and all the great stuff mentioned in the song. This is just the first draft. I don't have the entire thing fleshed out in my head.

Oh, still an interesting list. I was in fact just using the Dead Kennedys song name as a stand-in name for a "Jerry '92" list name, not creating a TL based on the lyrics of th song.
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« Reply #646 on: November 27, 2010, 10:01:49 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
What did you have in mind?

39. James E Carter (D-GA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN); 1977-1981
40. George Bush (R-TX)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV); 1981-1985
41. Edmund J. Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA); 1985-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Mike Gravel (D-AK); 1993-1997
43. Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Howard Dean (D-VT); 1997-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-Present

In this, Bush is elected instead of Reagan in 1980. He gets rid of Volcker, thus causing inflation to continue to rise. In 1984, California Senator Jerry Brown (who was elected to the Senate in '82) is elected in a landslide. Him and other more "Libertarian" minded Democrats instead act as fascists, creatin universal healthcare, expanding environmental laws, having children be forced to learn Buddhism ("your kids will meditate in school"), and all the great stuff mentioned in the song. This is just the first draft. I don't have the entire thing fleshed out in my head.

Oh, still an interesting list. I was in fact just using the Dead Kennedys song name as a stand-in name for a "Jerry '92" list name, not creating a TL based on the lyrics of th song.

Oh. I assumed you were talking about the idea I introduced for a timeline (in the "what should I write next?" thread). I thought you were just taking that and finding out what that would look like. (sorry for doubting you artistic intergrity)
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« Reply #647 on: November 27, 2010, 10:03:53 PM »

California Über Alles

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) January 20th, 1989 - January 20th, 1993
42. E. Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (D-CA) January 20th, 1993 - January 20th, 1997
43. Newton "Newt" L. Gingrich (R-GA) January 20th, 1997 - January 20th, 2001
44. Richard "Dick" A. Gephardt (D-MO) January 20th, 2001 - January 20th, 2009
45. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) January 20th, 2009 - January 20th, 2013
46. Barack H. Obama II (D-IL) January 20th, 2013 - Current Date

That wasn't quite the list I had in mind.
What did you have in mind?

39. James E Carter (D-GA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN); 1977-1981
40. George Bush (R-TX)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV); 1981-1985
41. Edmund J. Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Paul Tsongas (D-MA); 1985-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Mike Gravel (D-AK); 1993-1997
43. Mike Gravel (D-AK)/Howard Dean (D-VT); 1997-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-Present

In this, Bush is elected instead of Reagan in 1980. He gets rid of Volcker, thus causing inflation to continue to rise. In 1984, California Senator Jerry Brown (who was elected to the Senate in '82) is elected in a landslide. Him and other more "Libertarian" minded Democrats instead act as fascists, creatin universal healthcare, expanding environmental laws, having children be forced to learn Buddhism ("your kids will meditate in school"), and all the great stuff mentioned in the song. This is just the first draft. I don't have the entire thing fleshed out in my head.

Oh, still an interesting list. I was in fact just using the Dead Kennedys song name as a stand-in name for a "Jerry '92" list name, not creating a TL based on the lyrics of th song.

Oh. I assumed you were talking about the idea I introduced for a timeline (in the "what should I write next?" thread). I thought you were just taking that and finding out what that would look like. (sorry for doubting you artistic intergrity)
It's fine, no hard feelings okay.
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« Reply #648 on: November 27, 2010, 10:06:06 PM »

By the way, Andy Jackson, since you're active, is there hope for Mankind Forever? You last updated on, I think, the sixth. I know you said to be patient and all, but I had to ask.
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« Reply #649 on: November 27, 2010, 10:08:16 PM »

By the way, Andy Jackson, since you're active, is there hope for Mankind Forever? You last updated on, I think, the sixth. I know you said to be patient and all, but I had to ask.
Today was busy. I saw my little niece for the first time in months, the family ate, went to see the grandparents. Didn't get back until 8:30 so there wasn't much time to work on the TL. If I put my lasersights on it, it'll be up by Sunday or Monday.
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