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« Reply #825 on: June 03, 2011, 03:39:20 PM »

The Rise of the Conservative Party
36. Lyndon B Johnson (D-TX)/vacant, Wayne Morse (D-OR) November 22nd, 1963-January 20th, 1969
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR) January 20th, 1969-November 24th, 1971
38. Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AR)/vacant, Jacob R Javits (R-NY),
Henry M Jackson (D-WA) January 20th, 1971-February 22nd, 1973
39. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/vacant,George HW Bush (R-TX)February 22nd, 1973-January 20th, 1977
40. George McGovern (D-SD)/Morris K Udall (D-AZ) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
41. John Connally (R-TX)/James L Buckley (C-NY) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981
42. James L Buckley (C-NY)/vacant, Philip M Crane (C-IL) March 30th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

43. Jon Anderson (R-IL)/Edward Brooke (R-MA) January 20th, 1980-January 20th, 1993
44. Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
45. Orrin Hatch (C-UT)/Fred Thompson (C-TN) January 20th, 2001-September 11th, 2001
46. Fred Thompson (C-TN)/vacant, David Boren (C-OK) September 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2001

47. John F Kennedy Jr. (D-NY)/Barrack H Obama Jr. (D-IL) January 20th, 2009-Present
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« Reply #826 on: June 03, 2011, 05:07:34 PM »

1980: Edward Kennedy/Gary Hart
1982: Gary Hart/vacant*
1984: Gary Hart/Jerry Brown
1988: Gary Hart/Jerry Brown

1992: Bob Dole/Dick Lugar
1996: Bob Dole/George W. Bush

2000: John Kennedy Jr./John Edwards
2004: John Kennedy Jr./Bill Richardson

2008: John McCain/Bill Owens

1980: Ronald Reagan/George HW Bush
1984: George HW Bush/Bob Dole
1988: George HW Bush/Jack Kemp

1992: Jerry Brown/Al Gore
1996: Al Gore/Russ Feingold

2000: John McCain/Christine Whitman
2004: George W. Bush/Olympia Snowe

2008: Harold Ford Jr/Mark Warner
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« Reply #827 on: June 03, 2011, 07:17:00 PM »

A list Im currently making for a potential timeline:
1953-1961: Dwight Eisenhower (R-KS) / Richard Nixon (R-CA)
1961-1969: Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Prescott Bush (R-CT)

1969-1977: John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Walter Mondale (D-MN)
1977-1981: Walter Mondale (D-MN) / Robert Kennedy (D-NY)*
                                                           Gary Hart (D-CO)

1981-1989: Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / George Bush (R-TX)
1989-?Huh: George Bush (R-TX) / William Westmoreland (R-SC)


* Robert Kennedy killed in Dallas.
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« Reply #828 on: June 04, 2011, 12:04:51 AM »

WHAT IF Lincoln is not assassinated???
16th: Lincoln/ Johnson (R) 1860-1868
17th: Grant/ Colfax 1st/ Wilson 2nd (R)1868-1876
18th: Tilden/Hendricks (D) 1876-1880
19th: Garfield/ Arthur (R)1880-1881*
20th: Arthur/ McKinley 2nd  (R)1881-1885+
21st: McKinley/Hobart (R)1885-1892
22nd: Cleveland/Stevenson (D)1892-1900
23rd: Bryan/ Sewall (P)1900-1904
24th: Roosevelt/ Taft (R) 1904-1912
25th: Taft (R)1912-1920
26th: Lodge/Harding (R)1920-1924
27th: Cox/ Roosevelt (D)1924-1927+
28th: Roosevelt/ Smith 2nd (D) 1927-1932^
29th: Coolidge/ Hoover (R) –Elected, died before taking office
29th: Hoover (R)1932-1936
30th: Roosevelt/ Garner (D)1936-1944^
31st: Garner/ Truman (D)1944-1948
32nd: Dewey/ Bricker (R)1948-1956
33rd: Eisenhower/ Stevenson  (D) 1956-1964#
34th: Nixon/ Agnew (R)1964-1968
35th: J. Kennedy/ Humphrey (D)1968-1974*
36th: Humphrey/ Kennedy (D)1974-1976
37th: Reagan/ Dole (R) 1976-1984
38th: R. Kennedy/ Mondale (D) 1984-1986*
39th: Mondale/ T. Kennedy (D) 1986-1992
40th: Bush Sr./ Lugar (R) 1992-2000
41st: Gore/ Lieberman (D) 2000-2008
42nd: McCain/ Crist (R) 2008-
*-Assassinated
+- Died in office, not assassinated
^- Non-consecutive terms
#- Different party than RTL

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« Reply #829 on: June 05, 2011, 08:37:14 PM »

Attempt at Creating the blueprints for the most epic timeline ever
Part one is establishing at least some list of the Presidents. I only have a couple of ideas relating to 1970's/1980's Presidential elections, but they seem epic in my head, so I want to expand on that.

32. Cordell Hull (D-TN)/Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY) March 4th, 1933-January 20th, 1941
33. Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY)/George Marshall (D-PA) January 20th, 1941-April 12th, 1945
34. George Marshall (D-PA)/vacant  April 12th, 1945-January 20th, 1949

35. Arthur H Vandenber (R-MI)/Robert Taft (R-OH) January 20th, 1949-April 18th, 1951
36. Robert Taft (R-OH)/vacant, Thomas Dewey (R-NY) January 20th, 1951-Jly 31st, 1953
37. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/vacant July 31st, 1953-January 20th, 1957

38. Franklin D Roosevelt Jr. (D-NY)/George Smathers (D-FL) January 20th, 1957-July 3rd, 1964
39. George Smathers (D-FL)/vacant, John F Kennedy (D-MA) July 3rd, 1964-January 20th, 1969

40. Robert Taft Jr. (R-OH)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977
41. Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY) January 20th, 1977-September 1st, 1983
42. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)/vacant, Walter Mondale (D-MN) September 1st, 1983-January 20th, 1989

43. Ronald E Paul (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
44. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)/Joseph R Biden (D-DE) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
45. Charles Hagel (R-NE)/Gary E Johnson (R-NM) January 20th, 2005-Present
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« Reply #830 on: June 06, 2011, 10:10:09 AM »

1988: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen
1992: Micheal Dukakis/Ann Richards

1996: John McCain/Spencer Abrams
2000: John McCain/Spencer Abrams
2001: Spencer Abrams/vacant*

2004: Joe Lieberman/Lindsey Graham
2008: Joe Lieberman/Lindsey Graham

2012: John Bolton/Charlie Crist

1988: George HW Bush/Dan Quayle
1992: Dan Quayle/Paul Laxalt

1996: Ann Richards/Joe Biden
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman

2004: Spencer Abrams/Gary Johnson
2008: George W Bush/John Bolton

2012: Lindsey Graham/Anthony Weiner

*Dies of a Heart Attack on December 12th, 2001.
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« Reply #831 on: June 06, 2011, 09:39:54 PM »

1988: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen
1992: Micheal Dukakis/Ann Richards

1996: John McCain/Spencer Abrams
2000: John McCain/Spencer Abrams
2001: Spencer Abrams/vacant*

2004: Joe Lieberman/Lindsey Graham
2008: Joe Lieberman/Lindsey Graham

2012: John Bolton/Charlie Crist

1988: George HW Bush/Dan Quayle
1992: Dan Quayle/Paul Laxalt

1996: Ann Richards/Joe Biden
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman

2004: Spencer Abrams/Gary Johnson
2008: George W Bush/John Bolton

2012: Lindsey Graham/Anthony Weiner

*Dies of a Heart Attack on December 12th, 2001.

Well no one would vote for Weiner outside of NY now anyways! lol
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« Reply #832 on: June 07, 2011, 10:20:58 AM »

1988: Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen
1992: Micheal Dukakis/Ann Richards

1996: John McCain/Spencer Abrams
2000: John McCain/Spencer Abrams
2001: Spencer Abrams/vacant*

2004: Joe Lieberman/Lindsey Graham
2008: Joe Lieberman/Lindsey Graham

2012: John Bolton/Charlie Crist

1988: George HW Bush/Dan Quayle
1992: Dan Quayle/Paul Laxalt

1996: Ann Richards/Joe Biden
2000: Joe Biden/Joe Lieberman

2004: Spencer Abrams/Gary Johnson
2008: George W Bush/John Bolton

2012: Lindsey Graham/Anthony Weiner

*Dies of a Heart Attack on December 12th, 2001.

Well no one would vote for Weiner outside of NY now anyways! lol
Lol, only hours later, I knew I would have to change that!
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« Reply #833 on: June 07, 2011, 03:24:59 PM »

32. John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) 1933-1941
33. Wendell Willkie (R-NY)/Henry Wallace (R-IA) 1941-1944
34.Henry Wallace (R-IA)/vacant, Thomas Dewey 1944-1949

35. Richard Russell Jr. (D-GA)/Ernest McFarland (D-AZ) 1949-1953
36. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (D-CA) 1953-1961
37. Barry Goldwater (D-AZ)/Robert F Kennedy (D-MA) 1961-1967
38. Robert F Kennedy (D-MA)/vacant 1967-1969

39. George W Romney (R-MI)/John V Lindsay (R-NY) 1969-1972
40. John V Lindsay (R-NY) 1972-1977

41. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown (D-CA)/Edward M Kennedy (D-MA) 1977-1985
42. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Barry Goldwater Jr. (D-CA) 1985-1989


To maybe be continued...
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« Reply #834 on: June 07, 2011, 07:50:19 PM »

In a Alternate Universe where America is a Parlimentary Democracy.....



1960-Richard Nixon
1965-Richard Nixon
1968-Henry Cabot Lodge

1969-Hubert Humphrey
1973-George McGovern

1975-Ronald Reagan
1979-Edward Kennedy*
1981-Jerry Brown
1984-Jerry Brown
1988-Jerry Brown

1990-George HW Bush
1993-Mario Cuomo
1998-George W Bush
2003-Howard Dean
2009-John McCain**
2010-Michelle Bachman
*-Assassinated
**-Losses leadership bid to Bachman, Conservatives narrowly win 2010 General Election.

Blue-Conservative
Red-Labor
Orange-Liberal
Green-Green Party
Purple-Reform
Brown-Patriot

May or may not be a future timeline...
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« Reply #835 on: June 07, 2011, 10:25:52 PM »

1964: Henry Lodge/William Scranton
1968: Henry Lodge/William Scranton

1972: Hubert Humphrey/Henry Jackson
1976: Hubert Humphrey/Henry Jackson
1977: Henry Jackson/vacant*
1980: Henry Jackson/Lloyd Bentsen

1984: Claude Kirk/Ralph Perk
1988: Claude Kirk/Ralph Perk
1992: Ralph Perk/Dick Lugar

1996: Hillary Rodham/Joe Biden
2000: Hillary Rodham/Joe Biden
2004: Joe Biden/Howard Dean
2008: Joe Biden/Howard Dean


1964: Lyndon Johnson/Terry Sanford
1968: George McGovern/Eugene McCarthy

1972: William Scranton/Clifford Case
1976: Richard Nixon/Ronald Reagan
1980: Ronald Reagan/William E. Simon

1984: Lloyd Bentsen/Walter Mondale
1988: Walter Mondale/Patrick Lucey
1992: Ralph Nader/Buddy Roemor

1996: Ralph Perk/John McCain
2000: John McCain/Elizabeth Hanford
2004: Gary Johnson/Jack Kemp
2008: Sam Brownback/Joe Arpaio


**President Humphrey dies in office
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« Reply #836 on: June 19, 2011, 08:38:13 PM »

An Endless Cold War
Based on the idea of the USSR still surviving, which came up in Gporter's "What should I write next?" thread...

41. George HW Bush (R-TX)/James D "Dan" Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1993
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Charles Robb (D-VA) 1993-2001
43. George W Bush (R-TX)/Oliver North (R-VA) 2001-2005
44. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 2005-2009
45. Rudolph Guiliani (R-NY)/John S McCain III (R-AZ) 2009-Present

Basically, Angry_Weasel introduced the idea of more Liberal Democrats due to less of a push to the right on economics because Republicans aren't as successful in policy (I guess as evidenced by the fact the USSR is still around). However, I see that they could still maintain some semblance of a more aggressive foreign policy, therefore, Chuck Robb is picked by Mario Cuomo for VP. In 1994, the Contract with America is less popular with the American People than in real life, and the Republicans take the Senate, but not the House. In 1996, newly elected Senator Oliver North (whose actions in the Iran Hostage Crisis are seen more as "necessary" with the threat of the Soviets still present) launches an insurgent bid against Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole. However, he is unable to beat Dole who runs as a more moderate candidate who is seen as less offenseive to voters who still value the New Deal. In 2000, Governor George W Bush runs as a "Reagan who can finish the fight". He chooses 1996 runner-up Oliver North as his running mate. He goes on to beat the Democratic ticket of Chuck Robb and Joe Lieberman by narrowly winning New Hampshire, but losing the popular vote. In Dubya's cabinet, Secretary of State Dick Cheney and Secretary of Defense Colin Powell attempt to create an "aggressive, yet realistic foreign policy". However, cabinet in-fighting results in little getting done policy-wise. At the same time, Bush, under claims that the Soviet Union is propping up Iraq in order to maintain control in the Middle East, begins the Iraq War in 2002. The war, while initially popular, ends up losing Bush the election as Americans live nightly with the fear of nuclear armageddon. Bush's successor, Joe Lieberman, is just as hawkish as Bush, and the Iraq War continues. However, nuclear tensions defuse. In 2008, Rudy Guiliani, Mayor-turned-Governor of a highly Democratic state and hero of the 9/11 "Espionage Attack" on New York City, is elected by a large margin over Lieberman, who is plagued by Iraq as Johnson was with Vietnam 40 years earlier. Guiliani governs as Bush attempted: a "hawkish realist" and is able to negotiate an end to the Iraq War. However, years of military spending and continually increased taxes plus a large deficit do not leave the economy in good shape by 2011. Will accomplishments in foreign affairs allow Guiliani to win re-election?
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« Reply #837 on: June 19, 2011, 09:47:59 PM »

I will not be running for a fourth term this November...
(also known as the Dead Rockefellers, because of the goings on of a certain political family; yeah I know that name's used before)

33. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/John W Bricker (R-OH) January 20th, 1945-January 20th, 1953
34. James Roosevelt (D-CA)/Adlai E Stevenson (D-IL) January 20th, 1953-January 20th, 1961
35. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Richard M Nixon (R-CA) January 20th, 1961-August 19th, 1962
36. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/vacant, Walter Judd (R-MN) August 19th, 1962-January 20th, 1969

37. John F Kennedy (D-MA)/George Smathers (D-FL) January 20th, 1969-February 3rd, 1973
38. George Smathers (D-FL)/vacant, Edmund Muskie (D-ME) February 3rd, 1973-January 20th, 1977

39. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/James L Buckley (R-NY) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
40. Ronald W Reagan (D-CA)/James E Carter (D-GA) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. James E Carter (D-GA)/Mario Cuomo (D-NY) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993

42. Rudolph W Guiliani (R-NY)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
43. John F Kennedy Jr. (D-NY)/Paul Wellstone (D-MN) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
44. George W Bush (R-TX)/John Engler (R-MI)

to be explained...
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« Reply #838 on: June 20, 2011, 12:54:48 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2011, 01:01:32 PM by GLPman »

No GHWB in '88
41. Carroll Campbell (R-SC) / Robert "Bob" Dole (R-KS): 1989 - 1993
42.Thomas Harkin (D-IA) / William "Bill" Clinton (D-AR): 1993-2001
43.John "Jeb" Bush (R-FL) / John Engler (R-MI): 2001-2005
44. Albert "Al" Gore (D-TN) / Howard Dean (D-VT): 2005-2009
45.James "Rick" Perry (R-TX) / Timothy Pawlenty (R-MN): 2009 - present
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« Reply #839 on: June 20, 2011, 05:16:31 PM »

My take on JFK living . . .

35. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) [1961-1969]
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) / Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) [1969-1973]

37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) / Mark Hatfield (R-OR) [1973-1979]*
38. Mark Hatfield (R-OR) / Howard Baker (R-TN) [1979-1985]

39. Bruce Babbit (D-AZ) / Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) [1985-1993]
40. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) / Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) [1993-1997]

41. Richard Lugar (R-IN) / Thomas Kean (R-NJ) [1997-2001]
42. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) / Richard Gephardt (D-MO) [2001-2009]
43. Tom Ridge (R-PA) / Tom Davis (R-VA) [2009-present]

* President Rockefeller dies of a heart attack January 26th, 1979.
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« Reply #840 on: June 20, 2011, 08:52:52 PM »

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1949)
33. Earl Warren/ Dwight Eisenhower)(1949-1957)
34. Dwight Eisenhowever/Henry Lodge (1957-1965)
35. John F. Kennedy/Hubert Humphrey (1965-1969)
36. Barry Goldwater/ Ronald Reagan (1969-1972) (AuH2O assasinated)
37. Ronald Reagan/ William Buckley (1972-1977)
38. Robert Kennedy/Walter Mondale (1977-1985)
39. Walter Mondale/Gary Hart (1989-1993)
40. Robert Dole/Jack Kemp (1993-2001)
41. Bill Bradley/ Joe Lieberman (2001-2005)
42. Mitt Romney/Rudy Guiliani (2005-2013)
43. Rudy Guiliani/Tom Ridge (2013-2017)
44. Jon Tester/Tim Kaine (2017-2025)
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« Reply #841 on: June 21, 2011, 06:09:06 PM »
« Edited: June 21, 2011, 06:10:38 PM by sirnick »

Presidents

32 - Franklin D. Roosevelt* - March 4, 1933 – April 12, 1955
33 - Robert Houghwout Jackson** - April 12, 1955 - January 20, 1965

34 - Omar Nelson Bradley - January 20, 1965 - January 20, 1977
35 - John F. Kennedy - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1985
36 - Ronald W. Reagan*3 - January 20, 1985 - January 3, 1988
37 - Richard M. Nixon - January 3, 1988 - January 20, 1993

38 - Mario M. Cuomo - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 2005
39 - John S. McCain - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
40 - Hillary Rodham -  January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
41 - Piyush "Bobby" Jindal - January 20, 2013 - January 20, 2017
42 - Barack H. Obama  January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2029


Vice Presidents


32 - John N. Garner - March 4, 1933 - January 20, 1941
33 - Henry A. Wallace - January 20, 1941 - January 20, 1945
34 - Harry S. Truman - January 20, 1945 - January 20, 1953
35 - Robert H. Jackson - January 20, 1953 - April 12, 1955

Vacant - April 12, 1955 - January 20, 1959
36 - Albert Gore, Sr. - January 20, 1959 - January 20, 1965
37 - George W. Romney - January 20, 1965 - January 20, 1973
38 - Edward J. Gurney - January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1977

39 - Lloyd Bentsen - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1985
40 - Richard Nixon - January 20, 1985 - January 3, 1988
Vacant - January 3, 1988- January 15, 1988
41 - Alexander Haig - January 15, 1988 - January 20, 1991
42 - Tom Harkin*4 - January 20, 1991 - April 8, 1996
Vacant - April 8, 1996 - April 20, 1996
43 - William J. Clinton*5 - April 20, 1996 - August 18, 1998[color]
Vacant - August 18, 1998 - September 20, 1998
44- Howard Dean - September 20, 1998 - January 20, 2005
45 - Thomas J. Ridge - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2009
46 - Barack H. Obama -  January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2013
47 - Jon Huntsman - January 20, 2013 - January 20, 2017
48 - Russ Feingold  January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2021
49 - Tammy Baldwin - January 20, 2021 January 20, 2029








*Roosevelt was elected 6 times and served as President for 22 years.
**Signed a Constitutional Amendment barring the President from serving more than 3 terms. Also chose to seek reelection only once.
*3 - Assassinated. Also defeated JFK for a third term.
*4 - Resigned/forced out by President Cuomo after a scandal involving a staffer
*5 - Resigned/forced out by President Cuomo after a scandal involving an intern

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« Reply #842 on: June 22, 2011, 11:33:44 AM »

34 - Ronald W. Reagan - January 20, 1953 - January 20, 1961
35 - Lyndon B. Johnson - January 20, 1961 - January 20, 1969
36 - Richard M. Nixon - January 20, 1969 - January 20, 1973
37 - John F. Kennedy - January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1981
38 - George McGovern - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1985
39 - Gerald R. Ford - January 20, 1985 -January 20, 1989
40 - Robert F. Kennedy* - January 20, 1989 - May 13, 1995
41 - William J. Clinton - May 13, 1995 - January 20, 2005

42 - Jon Huntsman - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2013

* - Assasinated
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« Reply #843 on: June 22, 2011, 04:24:29 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2011, 06:45:37 PM by Dick Whitman »

No Watergate scandal . . .

37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA) / Spiro T. Agnew* (R-MD) [1969-1973], Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) [1973-1977]
  • *Resigned over charges of income tax evasion.
38. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) / Robert J. Dole (R-KS)
  • Defeated Edmund Muskie (D-ME) / Terry Sanford (D-NC) in 1976 election.
39. Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)* / Gary W. Hart (D-CO) [1981]
  • Defeated Ford/Dole in 1980
  • *Assassinated in early 1981.
40. Gary W. Hart (D-CO) / John H. Glenn Jr. (D-OH) [1981-1989]
  • Defeated Bob Dole (R-KS) / Phil Crane (R-IL) in 1984 election.
41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Jack F. Kemp (R-NY) [1989-1997]
  • Defeated John Glenn (D-OH) / Bob Kerrey (D-NE) in 1988 election.
  • Defeated Mario Cuomo (D-NY) / Sam Nunn (D-GA) in 1992 election.
42. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AK)* / Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) [1997-2004]
  • Defeated Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Lamar Alexander (R-TN) in 1996 election
  • Defeated George W. Bush (R-TX) / John Danforth (R-MO) in 2000 election.
  • *Suffers a fatal heart attack during the summer of 2004
43. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) / Daniel Robert "Bob" Graham (D-FL) [2004-2009]
  • Defeated John McCain (R-AZ) / Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) in 2004 election.
44. Marshall Clement "Mark" Sanford (R-SC)* / John E. Sununu (R-NH) [2009]
  • Defeated Shaheen / Graham in 2008 election.
  • *Resigned over charges that he misused federal funds to carry on an extramarital affair.
45. John E. Sununu (R-NH) / Haley R. Barbour (R-MS) [2009-present]
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« Reply #844 on: June 23, 2011, 01:38:14 PM »
« Edited: June 23, 2011, 02:56:26 PM by Cathcon »

25. Thomas Brackett Reed (R-ME)/Henry Clay Evans (R-TN) March 4th, 1897-December 7th, 1902
26. Henry Clay Evans (R-TN)/vacant, December 7th, 1902-March 4th, 1905

27. Alton Brooks Parker (D-NY)/Henry G Davis (D-WV) March 4th, 1905-March 4th, 1909
28. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Leslie M Shaw (R-IA), Hiram W Johnson (R-CA) March 4th, 1909-March 4th, 1921
29. George B McClellan Jr. (D-NY)/William G McAdoo (D-TN) March 4th, 1921-March 4th, 1929
30. William G McAdoo (D-TN)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1933

31. Herbert C Hoover (R-CA)/Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY) March 4th, 1933-January 10th, 1941
32. James Farley (D-NY)/Henry Ford (D-MI), Charles Lindbergh (D-MI) January 10th, 1941-January 10th, 1949
33. Herbert Hoover Jr. (R-CA)/Robert Taft (R-OH), vacant January 10th, 1949-January 10th, 1957
34. Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Evertt Dirksen (R-IL) January 10th, 1957-January 10th, 1961

35. Barry Goldwater (D-AZ)/John F Kennedy (D-MA) January 10th, 1961-January 10th, 1969
36. Frank Church (R-ID)/Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 10th, 1969-November 13th, 1972
37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/vacant, Spiro T Agnew (R-MD) November 13th, 1972-January 10th, 1977

38. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Ronald E "Ron" Paul (D-TX) January 10th, 1977-January 10th, 1985
39. Paul Simon (D-IL)/Barry Goldwater Jr. (D-CA) January 10th, 1985-January 10th, 1993
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« Reply #845 on: June 23, 2011, 03:11:54 PM »

25. Thomas Brackett Reed (R-ME)/Henry Clay Evans (R-TN) March 4th, 1897-December 7th, 1902
26. Henry Clay Evans (R-TN)/vacant, December 7th, 1902-March 4th, 1905

27. Alton Brooks Parker (D-NY)/Henry G Davis (D-WV) March 4th, 1905-March 4th, 1909
28. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)/Leslie M Shaw (R-IA), Hiram W Johnson (R-CA) March 4th, 1909-March 4th, 1921
29. George B McClellan Jr. (D-NY)/William G McAdoo (D-TN) March 4th, 1921-March 4th, 1929
30. William G McAdoo (D-TN)/Alfred E Smith (D-NY) March 4th, 1929-March 4th, 1933

31. Herbert C Hoover (R-CA)/Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R-NY) March 4th, 1933-January 10th, 1941
32. James Farley (D-NY)/Henry Ford (D-MI), Charles Lindbergh (D-MI) January 10th, 1941-January 10th, 1949
33. Herbert Hoover Jr. (R-CA)/Robert Taft (R-OH), vacant January 10th, 1949-January 10th, 1957
34. Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Evertt Dirksen (R-IL) January 10th, 1957-January 10th, 1961

35. Barry Goldwater (D-AZ)/John F Kennedy (D-MA) January 10th, 1961-January 10th, 1969
36. Frank Church (R-ID)/Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) January 10th, 1969-November 13th, 1972
37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/vacant, Spiro T Agnew (R-MD) November 13th, 1972-January 10th, 1977

38. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Ronald E "Ron" Paul (D-TX) January 10th, 1977-January 10th, 1985
39. Paul Simon (D-IL)/Barry Goldwater Jr. (D-CA) January 10th, 1985-January 10th, 1993



Ron Paul and the Goldwaters Democrats...... Paul's influenced as much as by Robert Taft as he is by Barry Goldwater. Also his family is ancestorally Republican.

Kennedy/Goldwater would have been epic if it would've happened. Is this timeline a bit of conservative democrats and liberal republicans with the Taft exception.
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« Reply #846 on: June 23, 2011, 03:14:41 PM »

Taft was only on the 1948 Republican ticket to appeal to the dying Conservative wing of the party. With his death in 1953, the death of Conservative Republicanism occurs.
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« Reply #847 on: June 23, 2011, 03:28:32 PM »

Hence the conservatives go an take over the democrats.
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« Reply #848 on: June 23, 2011, 08:18:18 PM »

While it's not a long list, this is a TL I'm planning on doing once my five other projects get at least somewhat reduced.

Presidents/Vice-Presidents
42. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR)/Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN) 1993-2001
43. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) 2001-2005

44. Rudolph W Giuliani (R-NY)/George Allen (R-VA) 2005-Present

Losing Tickets
2000: Governor George W Bush (R-TX)/Former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney (R-WY), Activist Ralph Nader (I-DC)/Activist Winon LaDuke (I-MN)
2004: President Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Vice-President Joseph Lieberman (D-CT), Activist Ralph Nader (I-DC)/Activist Peter Camejo (I-CA)
2008: Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Senator Hillary Rodham-Clinton (D-NY)

It'd obviously be a lot more detailed than this, and it'd go in the "Fluke of the Gods" formate the PBrunsel, Kalwejt, and GZ67 use or have used in the past.
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« Reply #849 on: June 24, 2011, 07:42:02 AM »

37th: Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro T. Agnew (R-MD), January 20, 1969 - January 20, 1973
38th: George S. McGovern (D-SD)/R. Sargent Shriver (D-MD), January 20, 1973 - January 20, 1977
39th: Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/Richard S. Schweiker (R-PA), January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
40th: George S. McGovern (D-SD)/Lawton M. Chiles (D-FL), January 20, 1981 - March 30, 1981

After Watergate reached it's height in October 1972, President Nixon narrowly loses reelection, while winning the popular vote and coming one vote short in the electoral college (thanks to a faithless elector Roger McBride action), which triggered a vote in the House, in which McGovern prevailed.

McGovern loses reelection in 1976 but came back in 1980, thanks to retaining a liberal grassrot support, that allowed him to prevail in the primaries. In November, he defeated Reagan, whose term went basically like RL Carter's term.

McGovern, however, did not enjoy his comeback for long, having been assassinated by John Hinckley, Jr.

TBC.
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