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« Reply #700 on: February 09, 2011, 06:16:23 PM »

Premiers of the Union of American Socialist Republics.

1930-Norman Thomas
1935-Norman Thomas
1940-Norman Thomas
1945-Norman Thomas
1950-Huey Long
1955-Huey Long
1960-Huey Long
1965-Huey Long
1970-Huey Long
1975-George McGovern
1980-George McGovern*
1983-Gus Hall
1985-Gus Hall
1990-Lyndon LaRouche**

*Removed by the Communist Party Politbro for failing to stop the 1983 New York riots.
**UASR collapses in 1993.


(And no, there not Democrats lol)
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« Reply #701 on: February 10, 2011, 03:42:13 PM »

41 - Michael S. Dukakis - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
                             Lloyd M. Bensten - January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993

42 - Charles E. Grassley - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 1997
                             Alfonse M. D'Amato - January 20, 1993 - January 20, 1997

43 - Edward M. Kennedy - January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001
                             William J. Clinton - January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001

44 - William J. Clinton - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2005
                              Paul D. Wellstone - January 20, 2001 - October 25, 2002
                              Ann A.W Richards - October 25, 2002 - January 20, 2005

45 - Colin L. Powell - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2013
                              John E. Bush - January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2013
46 - John E. Bush - January 20, 2013 - January 20, 2017
                              Michael D. Huckabee - January 20, 2013 - January 20, 2017

47 - Barack H. Obama - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025
                              Kirsten E.R. Gillibrand - January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025
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« Reply #702 on: February 11, 2011, 10:20:29 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2011, 09:42:37 AM by Cathcon »

Nixon Chooses Hatfield
Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR), John Connally (R-TX) 1969-1974
38. John Connally (R-TX)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 1974-1981

39. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA) 1981
40. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1989

41. Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 1989-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/David Boren (D-OK) 1993-1996
43. David Boren (D-OK)/Ann Richards (D-TX) 1996-1997
44. Ann Richards (D-TX)/John F Kerry (D-MA) 1997-2001

45. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/John Engler (R-MI) 2001-2009
46. Bill RIchardson (D-NM)/Michael Bloomberg (D-NY)

Losing Tickets
1972: Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/James E Carter (D-GA); Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Mike Gravel (I-AK)
1976: George McGovern (D-SD)/Terry Sanfrod (D-SC)
1980: Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Robert Dole (R-KS), Charles Matthias (I-MD)/Edward Brooke (I-MA)
1984: George Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1988: Walter F Mondale (D-MN)/Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
1992: Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL), Ron Paul (L-TX)/Barry M Goldwater Jr. (L-CA)
1996: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/John Ellis Bush (R-FL)
2000: John F Kerry (D-MA)/Zell Miller (D-GA)
2004: Howard Deant (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2008: John Ellis Bush (R-FL)/Judd Gregg (R-NM)
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« Reply #703 on: February 11, 2011, 10:32:48 PM »

Nixon Chooses Hatfield
Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR), John Connally (R-TX) 1969-1974
38. John Connally (R-TX)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 1974-1981

39. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA) 1981
40. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1989

41. Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 1989-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/David Boren (D-OK) 1993-1996
43. David Boren (D-OK)/Ann Richards (D-TX) 1996-1997
44. Ann Richards (D-TX)/John F Kerry (D-MA) 1997-2001

45. Elizabeth Dole (R-SC)/John Engler (R-MI) 2001-2009
46. Bill RIchardson (D-NM)/Michael Bloomberg (D-NY)

Losing Tickets
1972: Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/James E Carter (D-GA); Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Mike Gravel (I-AK)
1976: George McGovern (D-SD)/Terry Sanfrod (D-SC)
1980: Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Robert Dole (R-KS), Charles Matthias (I-MD)/Edward Brooke (I-MA)
1984: George Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1988: Walter F Mondale (D-MN)/Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
1992: Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL), Ron Paul (L-TX)/Barry M Goldwater (L-CA)
1996: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/John Ellis Bush (R-FL)
2000: John F Kerry (D-MA)/Zell Miller (D-GA)
2004: Howard Deant (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2008: John Ellis Bush (R-FL)/Judd Gregg (R-NM)
Why did Hatfield leave?
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« Reply #704 on: February 11, 2011, 10:37:32 PM »

Nixon Chooses Hatfield
Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. Richard M Nixon (R-NY)/Mark Hatfield (R-OR), John Connally (R-TX) 1969-1974
38. John Connally (R-TX)/Gerald R Ford (R-MI) 1974-1981

39. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA) 1981
40. Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Walter F Mondale (D-MN) 1981-1989

41. Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 1989-1993
42. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/David Boren (D-OK) 1993-1996
43. David Boren (D-OK)/Ann Richards (D-TX) 1996-1997
44. Ann Richards (D-TX)/John F Kerry (D-MA) 1997-2001

45. Elizabeth Dole (R-SC)/John Engler (R-MI) 2001-2009
46. Bill RIchardson (D-NM)/Michael Bloomberg (D-NY)

Losing Tickets
1972: Henry M Jackson (D-WA)/James E Carter (D-GA); Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Mike Gravel (I-AK)
1976: George McGovern (D-SD)/Terry Sanfrod (D-SC)
1980: Ronald W Reagan (R-CA)/Robert Dole (R-KS), Charles Matthias (I-MD)/Edward Brooke (I-MA)
1984: George Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1988: Walter F Mondale (D-MN)/Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
1992: Robert Dole (R-KS)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL), Ron Paul (L-TX)/Barry M Goldwater (L-CA)
1996: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/John Ellis Bush (R-FL)
2000: John F Kerry (D-MA)/Zell Miller (D-GA)
2004: Howard Deant (D-VT)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2008: John Ellis Bush (R-FL)/Judd Gregg (R-NM)
Why did Hatfield leave?
I would say Nixon chose someone more conservative b/c the base was moving away from him and towards someone like Ashbrook.
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« Reply #705 on: February 11, 2011, 10:53:55 PM »

Now, for a similar yet different list...

"What's Watergate?"

Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. Richard M Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro T Agnew (R-MD), John Connally (R-TX) 1969-1977
38. John Conally (R-TX)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 1977-1981

39. Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/James E Carter (D-GA) 1981-1989
40. Edward Finch (R-CA)/William E Cohen (R-ME) 1989-1997
41. Tom Daschle (D-SD)/Richard Gephardt (D-MO) 1997-2005
42. Pete Wilson (R-CA)/Richard B Cheney (R-WY), Olympia Snowe (R-ME)

Losing Tickets
1976: Senator Frank Church (D-ID)/Senator Birch Bayh (D-IN)
1980: President John Connally (R-TX)/Vice-PresidentHoward Baker (D-TN)
1984: Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Senator Nancy Landon Kassebaum (R-KS), Former Senator James L Buckley (C-NY)/Congressman Phil Crane (C-IL)
1988: Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN), Former Senator James L Buckley (C-NY)/Congressman Newton Gingrich (C-GA)
1992: Senator Albert Gore (D-TN)/Governor Douglas Wilder (D-VA), Congressman Newton Gingrich (C-GA)/Activist Patrick J Buchanan (C-VA)
1996: Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)
2000: Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH)/Former Governor Pete Willson (R-CA)
2004: Vice-President Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)
2008: John D "Jay" Rockefeller IV (D-WV)/Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL)
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« Reply #706 on: February 11, 2011, 10:55:27 PM »

I would say Nixon chose someone more conservative b/c the base was moving away from him and towards someone like Ashbrook.

Yeah. In real life, Hatfield was seen as a possible Vice-Presidential pick for Nixon. While it would've been interesting to see a Hatfield Presidency, I think that after one term, either Nixon would kick Hatfield off the ticket, or he'd leave anyway out of disgust. In his place, Nixon chose the Conservative Secretary Treasury John Connally.
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« Reply #707 on: February 11, 2011, 11:32:35 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2011, 09:41:48 AM by Cathcon »

American Independence

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents
37. George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis E LeMay (AI-CA) 1969-1973
38. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Robert Finch (R-CA) 1973-1975
39. Robert Finch (R-CA)/Jacob Javitts (R-NY), Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1975-1981
40. Maurrice K Gravel (D-AK)/Gary Hart (D-CO) 1981-1989
41.Jesse Helms (AI-NC)/Pierres S "Pete" duPont, Newton L Gingrich (AI-GA) 1989-1997
42. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller (R-AR)/William Weld (R-MA) 1997-2002
43. William Weld (R-MA)/Pete Wilson (R-CA) 2002-2005
44. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Pete Wilson (R-CA)2005-2009
45. Zell Miller (AI-GA)/Douglas Hoffman (AI-NY) 2009-Present

List of Losing Tickets
1968: Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Governor Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY), Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/Senator Wayne Morse (D-OR)
1972: President George Wallace (AI-AL)/George Smathers (AI-FL), Senator Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Senator George McGovern (D-SD)
1976: Sentor Ronald Reagan (AI-CA)/Senator John Connally (AI-TX), Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/Governor Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)
1980: President Robert Finch (R-CA)/Vice-President Paul Laxalt (R-NV), Congressman John G Schmitz (AI-CA)/Senator James L Buckley (AI-NY)
1984: Former Speaker of the House Gerald R Ford (R-MI)/, Congressman Phil Crane (AI-IL)/General Alexander Haig (AI-PA)
1988: Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)/Former Senator James L Buckley (AI-NY), Vice-President Gary Hart (D-CO)/Senator Walter F Mondale (D-MN)
1992: Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/Businessman H Ross Perot (D-TX), Vice-President Pierre S "Pete" duPont IV (R-DE)/Congressman Jack F Kemp (R-NY)
1996: Senator Edmund G "Jerry" Brown Jr. (D-CA)/Senator Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN), Senator William P "Phil" Gramm (AI-TX)/Former Governor Carrol a Campbell Jr. (AI-SC)
2000:  Senator William J "Bill" Bradely (D-NJ)/Governor Howard Dean (D-VT), Former Governor Carroll a Campbell Jr. (AI-SC)/Senator James Danforth "Dan" Quayle (AI-IN)
2004: President William A Weld (R-MA)/General Wesley Clark, Senator George Allen (AI-VA)/Congressman Duncan Hunter (AI-CA)
2008: Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)/Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH), President Howard Dean (D-VT)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)

37. George Wallace
In an incredibly tight election caused by Conservatives uniting behind Wallace rather than behind Eugene McCarthy or George Romney, Wallace was able to win, thus ushering in a new political party. His term was makred by an escalation and eventual victory in Vietnam and in Populist-Conservative economic and social policies.

38. Nelson Rockefeller
The 1968 Vice-Presidential nominee and the standard bearer of the GOP's Liberal wing, Rockefeller easily locked up the Republican nomination with several Conservatives having fled to Wallace's re-election campaign. Rockefeller's term started out rough with rising oil prices and stagflation, and got worse when he was shot during a visit to California.

39. Robert Finch
Finch had served as California's Lieutenant Governor for two years before Governor Ronald Reagan resigned to work as Secretary of Defense for Wallace. Finch by the time he became President had served two years as Lieutenant Governor, four as Governor, and over two as Vice-President. In 1976 he was easily re-elected because of the sympathy vote. However, he had a very bad second term with a worseninig economy and foreign crises he wasn't qualified to handle.

40. Mike Gravel
A two term Democratic Senator from Alaska who was known for his rather strange political positions, Gravel emerged as the frontrunner in a crowded field, winning New Hampshire by campaigning on his economic Libertarianism. From there he won much of the West and pieces of the North-East to give him the nomination. He chose fellow Westerner Gary Hart as his running mate.
During Gravel's two terms, the economy recovered thanks in large part to his economic recovery plan which involved tax cuts and economic stimulus. Despite personal scandal involving himself, as well as scandal involving his Vice-President, Gravel would go down in history as one of the better Presidents of the era.

41.Jesse Helms
A staunch Conservative who promised a return to the "Wallace Era", Helms was able to get enough votes to take the election to the House where he surprisingly won, working with a coalition of Conservatives in both the Republican and American Independent parties. In the Senate, however, the Republican Vice-Presidential nominee won out.
Helms' two terms were marked with his greatest accomplishment: the defeat of the Soviet Union. This was accomplished by ramping up military spendin to 1972 levels and ushering a military build up. During the Rockefeller-Finch-Gravel years, detente and negotiation had become the mantras, thus allowing the Soviet Union to survive. However, by 1995, the "Evil Empire" had been destroyed. Despite many people in more than one party accusing Helms of racism, he left office with a 53% approval rating.

42. Winthrop Paul Rockefeller
The son of Nelson Rockefeller's brother, Winthrop Rockefeller who was Governor of Arkansas for six years and Secretary of Agriculture for less than one, Winthrop Paul Rockefeller had by 1996 served for a short time as assistant Secretary of Agriculture, and Governor of Arkansas for four years. Having the name Rockefeller helped when he decided to enter the Republican primaries, and he won the Presidency as well. However, two years after winning re-election, the cancer that had killed his father in 1973 took his life as well.

43. William Weld
Much more economically Conservative than his predecessor, Weld worked on creating a blanced budget and basically working to ease out several of the programs that Winthrop had initiated. Before being Vice-President, Weld has been Governor of Massachusetts for six years and has worked as a federal prosecutor during the eighties. When 2005 rolled around, despite a good economy, he failed to win re-election.

44. Howard Dean
A Progressive with some very slight Libertarian leanings, Dean's campaign was reminiscient of Mike Gravel's in 1980. That, along with Gravel's endorsement, caused a number of Democrats to flock towards his campaign.
In office, he spent a lot of time working on the expansion of universal healthcare, which had first been passed by President Gravel.
Despite Dean's best intentions, the economy was in decline by 2006, and, although there was no financial crisis, there was a recession, and that was enough to cause him to lose.

45. Zell Miller
Formerly a Conservative Democrat, Miller began to consider joining the American Patriots during the 1980's when President Gravel was working on a nuclear freeze and universal healthcare. In 1990 he ran for and won Georgeia's Governorship as an American Independent, and was re-elected in 1994. During the 2000's he served as a Senator from his state, and in 2008 he was elected President.
Miller's tenure so far has been marked by attempts at de-regulation, social Conservatism, and tax cuts in order to alleviate the recession, though results have been mixed.
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« Reply #708 on: February 13, 2011, 05:52:35 PM »

1992-George HW Bush/Dan Quayle
1996-Bill Clinton/Tom Harkin*
1999-Tom Harkin/vacant

2000-Dan Quayle/John McCain
2004-Dan Quayle/John McCain

2008-Evan Bayh/Mark Warner

1989-1997-George HW Bush
President Bush was reelected in a narrow election over Al Gore and Ross Perot in 1992. His second term saw a small revival in the economy, though the GOP only had brief domination of Congress (1992-1994).

1997-1999-William Clinton
William "Bill" Clinton first ran for the Democratic nomination, narrowly losing it to Al Gore in 1992. His comeback came in 1996, when he beat Al Gore, and Douglas Wilder in the primaries, and later, Newt Gingrich in the general. He was impeached after lying about a affair while in office, as well a corrupt dealings in real estate while he was Governor of Arkansas. This was made worse by a Republican comeback in the 1998 midterm election.

1999-2001-Tom Harkin
Vice President Tom Harkin took over after Clinton was removed from office. His nomination of Al Gore as Vice President was rejected, and he lost reelection in a landslide to former VP Dan Quayle.

2001-2009-Dan Quayle
Dan Quayle did not seek the Presidency in 1996, and made a comeback in 2000, after the Clinton impeachment. Defeating MLB commissioner George W Bush, Senator John McCain, and Senator Elizabeth Dole in a close primary, and President Harkin in a landslide. His first term saw the 9/11 attacks and invasion of Afghanistan, as well as the bombing of Iraq in 2002. He was narrowly reelected over Howard Dean, who accused him of preparing to invade Iraq. His popularity dropped massively in the 2007-2009 financial depression.

2009-Present-Evan Bayh
In 2008, Senator Evan Bayh came from the bottom to win the Democratic nomination, defeating Senator Hillary Clinton, Governor Barrack Obama, Senator John Kennedy Jr, and Senator Nancy Pelosi in a close primary. He easily defeated VP John McCain in the general. His popularity remains at a steady 52%, and it seems likely he will be reelected in 2012.

Defeated Tickets
1992-Al Gore/Jean Shaheen
1996-Newt Gingrich/Pete Wilson
2000-Tom Harkin/Bill Bradley
2004-Howard Dean/John Kennedy Jr.

2008-John McCain/Lisa Murkowski
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« Reply #709 on: February 13, 2011, 05:56:48 PM »

I'm going to try to put up an America and Onward 2.0 list. However, it's long and I'm not too sure about how good the lists are after the first country I detailed. The rest are kind of obvious/crappy.
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« Reply #710 on: February 13, 2011, 08:15:43 PM »
« Edited: March 13, 2011, 04:51:37 PM by Working Man »

America and Onward (New Version)

Presidents/Vice-Presidents of the United States
32. Franklin D Roosevelt (D-NY)/John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1933-1937
33. Alfred Landon (R-KS)/Arthur H Vandenberg (R-MI) 1937-1941
34. Alben W Barkley (D-KT)/A Victor Donahey (D-OH) 1941-1943

The Great Depression was worse than anyone could imagine. By 1943, America was on its knees with riots by workers and the unemployed in nearly every major city. In an especially bloody riot in Washington DC, protestors, trampling the police and secret service, rushed the Whitehouse. That night, Washington DC went up in flames and President Barkley was killed in the bloodbath. America had collapsed. In its place rose four separate states. From 1943 they had begun building on the collapsed America, and by 1948, they were completely formed.


Blue-New England
Red-The Confederate States of America
Yellow-The Republic of Texas
Green-The Western Progressive Coalition

List of Presidents/Vice-Presidents of New England
(Unlimited two year terms following 1948)

1. James Farley (N-NY) 1946-1949
2. Joseph P Kennedy (I-MA)/Adlai E Stevenson II (I-IN) 1949-1953
3. Adlai E Stevenson II (I-IL)/Paul A Dever (I-MA) 1953-1955
4. Prescott Bush (C-CT)/Nelson Rockefeller (C-CT) 1955-1957
5. Joseph P Kennedy II (I-MA)/Frank J Lausche (I-OH) 1957-1961
6. Nelson Rockefeller (L-NY)/Phillip Willkie (L-IN) 1961-1965
7. Michael DiSalle (I-OH)/John F Kennedy (I-MA) 1965-1971
8. Winthrop Rockefeller (L-NY)/John Chaffee (L-RI) 1971-1973
9. Robert F Kennedy (I-NY)/John Glenn (I-OH) 1973-1981
10. Gerald R Ford (C-MI)/George Bush (C-CT) 1981-1983
11. George Bush (C-CT)/Robert Taft Jr. (C-OH) 1983-1987

12. Shirley Chisholm (L-NY)/John D “Jay” Rockefeller IV (L-NJ) 1987-1989
13. Joseph Biden (I-NJ)/Michael Dukakis (I-MA) 1989-1995
14. Robert P Casey (I-PA)/Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) 1995-1997

15. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (C-NY)/Pierre S “Pete” DuPont (C-IN) 1997-2003
16. Carl Levin (I-MI)/Mario Cuomo (I-NY) 2003-2007
17. Howard Dean (L-VT)/Russell Feingold (L-WI) 2007-2009
18. John McCain (C-NY)/Joseph Lieberman (N-CT) 2009-Present

N-No Party
I-Industry Party
C-Commerce Party
L-Liberal Party

List of Congressional Leaders of the Western Progressive Coalition
(One five year term following 1950, special election in 1947)

1.William E Borah (I-ID) 1946-1947
2.Harold Stassen (P-MN) 1947-1950
3.George S Patton (N-CA) 1950-1955
4.Earl Warren (P-CA) 1955-1960
5.Hubert H Humphrey (FL-MN) 1960-1965
6.George S McGovern (FL-SD) 1965-1970
7.Eugene McCarthy (FL-MN) 1970-1975

8.Mark O Hatfield (L-OR) 1975-1980
9.Frank Church (FL-ID) 1980-1983
10.Mike Gravel (L-AK) 1983-1990
11.Walter Mondale. (FL-MN) 1990-1995
12.Robert Dole (F-KS) 1995-2000
13.Winona LaDuke (FL-MN) 2000-2005
14.Charles Hagel (F-NE) 2005-2010
15.Matthew Gonzalez (FL-CA) 2010-Present

I-Independent
P-Progressive
N-Nationalist
FL-Farmer-Labor
L-Liberal
F-Farmer

List of Presidents of the Republic of Texas
(Two four year terms after 1946)

1. John Nance Garner IV (N-TX) 1947-1951
2. Lyndon B Johnson (R-TX)/Ernest McFarland (R-AZ) 1951-1959
3. Barry Goldwater (C-AZ)/John Charles Vivian (C-CO) 1959-1967
4. Fred Harris (R-OK)/George W Romney (R-UT) 1967-1971
5. Joseph B Lee (C-UT)/John G Tower (C-TX) 1971-1979
6. Fred Harris (R-OK)/Richard Lamm (R-CO) 1979-1983
7. Barry Goldwater Jr. (C-NM)/David Boren (C-OK) 1983-1991
8. Ann Richards (R-TX)/Bruce King (R-NM) 1991-1999
9. H Ross Perot (I-TX)/Tom Tancredo (I-CO) 1999-2003
10. JC Watts (C-OK)/Don Goldwater (C-AZ) 2003-2011
11. Willard Vernon “Vern” Romney (R-UT)/Tom Udall (R-NM) 2011-Present*

*Vern Romney's middle name comes from a distant cousin who was a Utah State Senator. He himself was called Vern Romney, leading to some family confusion.

N-National Party
R-Reform Party
C-Conservative Party
I-Independent

List of Presidents of the Confederate States of America
(One six year term from 1948 onwards, elected by state legislatures up until 1984)

1. Huey B Long (P-LA) 1944-1949
2. Richard B Russell (D-GA) 1949-1955
3. J Strom Thurmond (D-SC) 1955-1961

4. Albert Gore Sr. (P-TN) 1961-1967
5. George Wallace (D-AL) 1967-1973
6. George Smathers (D-FL) 1973-1979

7. Russell B Long (P-LA) 1979-1985
8. Albert Gore Jr. (P-TN) 1985-1991

9. Robert Martinez (D-FL) 1991-1997
10. Elizabeth Warner (D-NC) 1997-2003*

11. John Edwards (P-SC) 2003-2009
12. Andres Garcia Menendez (D-FL) 2009-Present

*In the 1970's, Elizabeth Hanford, who was an aide to Populist Senator Russell B Long married Director of the Navy John Warner

P-Populist Party
D-Dixie Party
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« Reply #711 on: February 14, 2011, 08:56:21 AM »

Wouldn't the CSA go after Cuba if Castro had come to power?
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« Reply #712 on: February 14, 2011, 12:42:22 PM »

38 - Gerald Ford - August 9, 1974 - January 20, 1977
                         Nelson Rockefeller - December 19, 1974 - January 20, 1977

39 - Hunter S. Thompson* - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
                          Robert S. McNamara - January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
40 - Birch E. Bayh - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1985
                           Lloyd M. Bensten - January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1985

41 - Robert S. McNamara - January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1993
                            Pete B. Wilson - January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1993

42 - Paul E. Tsongas** - January 20, 1993 - April 3, 1995
                  Lawrence D. Wilder - January 20, 1993 - April 3, 1995
43 - Lawrence D. Wilder - April 3, 1995 - January 20, 1997
                        William J. Clinton - August 11, 1995 - January 20, 1997      

44 - Henry 'Ross' Perot*** - January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001
                          James Stockdale - January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001
45 - Albert J. Gore - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
                           John F. Kerry - January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009

46 - William B. Richardson - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2012
                           Barack H. Obama - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2012

47 - Willard M. Romney - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2012
                           Kay B. Hutchinson - January 20, 2009 - January 20, 2012

48 - Barack H. Obama - January 20, 2012 -
                            Timothy M. Kaine - January 20, 2012 -



*First unaffiliated President since Washington. First President to drop the f-bomb during a press conference.
**Died in office, natural causes.
****Second unaffiliated President in the 1900's.

Elected -
Democrats: 6
Republicans: 3
Independents: 2
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« Reply #713 on: February 14, 2011, 08:12:22 PM »

US on a "West Wing" system. POD is Reagans death from a stroke.

1986-George HW Bush/Bob Dole
1990-George HW Bush/Bob Dole

1994-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards
1998-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards

2002-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush
2006-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush

2010-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2014-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2018-Andrew Cuomo/Ed Rendell


Defeated tickets
1986-Geraldine Ferraro/Joe Biden
1990-Joe Biden/Lawton Chiles

1994-Bob Dole/Paul Laxalt
1998-Jack Kemp/George Voinovich

2002-Ann Richards/Al Gore
2006-Al Gore/Bob Wise

2010-Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney
2014-Jon Huntsman/Scott Brown
2018-Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio
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« Reply #714 on: February 14, 2011, 08:22:55 PM »

US on a "West Wing" system. POD is Reagans death from a stroke.

1986-George HW Bush/Bob Dole
1990-George HW Bush/Bob Dole

1994-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards
1998-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards

2002-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush
2006-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush

2010-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2014-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2018-Andrew Cuomo/Ed Rendell


Defeated tickets
1986-Geraldine Ferraro/Joe Biden
1990-Joe Biden/Lawton Chiles

1994-Bob Dole/Paul Laxalt
1998-Jack Kemp/George Voinovich

2002-Ann Richards/Al Gore
2006-Al Gore/Bob Wise

2010-Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney
2014-Jon Huntsman/Scott Brown
2018-Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio


Does that term come from the show "the West Wing" because there was another timeline called "the West Wing" that had elections take place on what previously would have been the mid-terms. So is that what happened on the show?
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« Reply #715 on: February 14, 2011, 08:43:39 PM »

US on a "West Wing" system. POD is Reagans death from a stroke.

1986-George HW Bush/Bob Dole
1990-George HW Bush/Bob Dole

1994-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards
1998-Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards

2002-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush
2006-Newt Gingrich/Jeb Bush

2010-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2014-Barack Obama/Evan Bayh
2018-Andrew Cuomo/Ed Rendell


Defeated tickets
1986-Geraldine Ferraro/Joe Biden
1990-Joe Biden/Lawton Chiles

1994-Bob Dole/Paul Laxalt
1998-Jack Kemp/George Voinovich

2002-Ann Richards/Al Gore
2006-Al Gore/Bob Wise

2010-Jeb Bush/Mitt Romney
2014-Jon Huntsman/Scott Brown
2018-Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio


Does that term come from the show "the West Wing" because there was another timeline called "the West Wing" that had elections take place on what previously would have been the mid-terms. So is that what happened on the show?

Yea, but with fictional characters.
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« Reply #716 on: February 14, 2011, 08:45:07 PM »

A few ideas of mine, and some old ones.

The Impossible Dream (posted at AH.com)

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22, 1963- January 20, 1969

37. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY): January 20, 1969- January 20, 1977


38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): January 20, 1977- November 5, 1980*

39. Richard Schweiker (R-PA): November 5, 1980- April 26, 1987**

40. Richard Lugar (R-IN): April 26, 1987- January 20, 1989


Bill Clinton (D-AR): January 20, 1989- January 20, 1997

Maureen Reagan (R-CA): January 20, 1997- January 20, 2001

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (D-NY): January 20, 2001- January 20, 2009

Bobby Jindal (R-LA): January 20, 2009- present

* Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr. at the Ambassador Hotel on election eve

** Impeached for Iran-Contra.
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« Reply #717 on: February 14, 2011, 08:48:20 PM »

A few ideas of mine, and some old ones.

The Impossible Dream (posted at AH.com)

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22, 1963- January 20, 1969

37. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY): January 20, 1969- January 20, 1977


38. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): January 20, 1977- November 5, 1980*

39. Richard Schweiker (R-PA): November 5, 1980- April 26, 1987**

40. Richard Lugar (R-IN): April 26, 1987- January 20, 1989


Bill Clinton (D-AR): January 20, 1989- January 20, 1997

Maureen Reagan (R-CA): January 20, 1997- January 20, 2001

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (D-NY): January 20, 2001- January 20, 2009

Bobby Jindal (R-LA): January 20, 2009- present

* Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr. at the Ambassador Hotel on election eve

** Impeached for Iran-Contra.



I like a Land of Milk and Honeys list. Cant wait to find out who comes next....
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« Reply #718 on: February 14, 2011, 10:42:32 PM »

Nixon in 1960!:

35. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-California)/Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1969
36. Robert F. Kennedy (Democratic-New York)/Ronald W. Reagan (Democratic-California) January 20th, 1969-November 11th, 1971*
37. Ronald W. Reagan (Democratic-California) November 11th, 1971-December 5th, 1971/Fred Harris (Democratic-Oklahoma) December 5th, 1971-January 20th, 1977

38. Charles C. Percy (Republican-Illinois)/Robert Stafford (Republican-Vermont) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981
39. Fred Harris (Democratic-Oklahoma)/Edward M. Kennedy (Democratic-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1981-March 30th, 1981*
40. Edward M. Kennedy (Democratic-Massachusetts) March 30th, 1981-April 7th, 1981/Jerry Brown (Democratic-California) April 7th, 1981-January 20th, 1989

41. Ray Hutchison (Republican-Texas)/John Chafee (Republican-Rhode Island) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
42. Hillary Rodham Moynihan (Democratic-New York)/Bill McKay (Democratic-California) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001
43. Jonathan T. Douschwaffle (Republican-Nebraska)/Vincent K. McMahon (Republican-Connecticut) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
44. John M Osbourne (Liberal-New Hampshire)/Randall W. Rhoads (Liberal-California) January 20th, 2009-present

Notes:

35. Richard Nixon wins a close victory over John Kennedy and stays in office for two terms.  During his term the US pulls out of Vietnam, Civil Rights Act of 1963 is passed and a National Healthcare bill is passed.  However a bad economy and Republican fatigue helps Robert Kennedy get elected in 1969.
36. Robert Kennedy, this nation's first Catholic president, presides over economic downturn and busing riots.  He vocally opposes the Nyman v. Joe ruling in the US Supreme Court that would eventually lead to abortion on demand.  He would be assassinated on November 11th, 1971 by a white supremacists named David Duke.
37. Ronald Reagan, a former actor turned Senator turned Vice President turned President in the wake of Kennedy's assassination.  Reagan would win a landslide election in 1972 running off of sympathy votes for Kennedy.  However, unlike previous Democratic administrations and the Nixon administration the Reagan administration would take a turn to the right on the economy by promoting an economic agenda of drastic reductions in military spending and arts funding, reductions of Union power, income tax reduction, and airline deregulation.  He would not seek re-election in 1976.
39. Fred Harris, Reagan's VP and the nation's 39th president, would be elected president running on a progressive agenda.  He would be assassinated by John Hinckley Jr. on March 30th, 1981.  His VP Edward Kennedy, younger brother of the late Robert Kennedy, would succeed him as president.
40. Edward Kennedy, the last of Joe Kennedy's boys, would become President after President Fred Harris is killed by John Hinckley's bullet.  Many expected him to continue the Harris agenda, however he ended up governing as a fiscal conservative and a social libertarian.  Under Kennedy's presidency the Equal Pay Act was passed along with the Loving Amendment passed (which got the government out of the realm of determining relationships).
41. Ray Hutchison, a libertarian Republican, would become president after Kennedy.  His tenure in office would ironically be most like his Democratic successor, except that Hutchison would be more observant of federalism on matters such as the death penalty and reproductive issues.
42. Hillary Rodham Moynihan, wife of former New York Senator Daniel P. Moynihan, becomes the nation's first female president.  Unlike her predecessor Kennedy she would govern as an economic progressive but a foreign policy hawk.
43. Jonathan T. Douschewaffle would be the Republican President from 2001-2009.  He was all around a giant douche.  In fact everybody was starting to think the Democrats and Republicans were just huge douches and were left with no choice but to vote.....
44. Liberal.  Started in the mid 1980's the Liberal Party was based around a non-interventionist foreign policy, libertarian social agenda, and free market economics.  John M. Osbourne, the American born son of immigrants from Birmingham, England, and former US Senator of New Hampshire, would win in a landslide as disillusioned America voted against the Democratic and Republican tickets.  His Vice President, Randall W. Rhoads, Junior Senator from California, is often seen playing classical guitar around the White House whenever the President and his staff take a break.

I know a bit hackish but hey a man can dream right?
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« Reply #719 on: February 14, 2011, 11:22:27 PM »

Awesome list, Mech. But why does everyone of your lists end with a yellow party, most likely nmaed Liberal or Liberty?
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« Reply #720 on: February 15, 2011, 01:17:45 AM »

Awesome list, Mech. But why does everyone of your lists end with a yellow party, most likely nmaed Liberal or Liberty?
Hoping that people stop buying two party bullsh**t.
Plus listing those two as either Democratic or Republican would have been hawkish.
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« Reply #721 on: February 16, 2011, 03:51:11 AM »

The Rise of the Socialist Party

31st: Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA), 1929-1933
32nd: John N. Garner (D-TX), 1933-1935
33rd: Albert C. Ritchie (D-MD), 1935-1937
34th: Norman M. Thomas (S-OH), 1937-1945
35th: Huey P. Long (S-LA), 1945-1949
36th: W. Averell Harriman (D-NY), 1949-1957
37th: Claude D. Pepper (S-FL), 1957-1961
38th: Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX), 1961-1963
39th: Roman L. Hruska (D-NE), 1963-1969
40th: Hubert H. Humphrey (S-MN), 1969-1977
41st: Ronald W. Reagan (D-CA), 1977-1981
42nd: Walter F. Mondale (S-MN), 1981-1989
43rd: Ralph Nader (S-CT), 1989-1993
44th: Jack F. Kemp (D-NY), 1993-2001
45th: Linda Jenness (S-GA), 2001-2005
46th: George W. Bush (D-TX), 2005-2009
47th: Russell D. Feingold (S-WI), 2009-present
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« Reply #722 on: February 16, 2011, 03:57:39 AM »

And now, on the other hand, awful scenario.

The Rise of the American Fascism

31st: Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA), 1929-1933
32nd: John N. Garner (D-TX), 1933-1936*
Acting: William B. Bankhead (D-AL), 1936**
Acting: Ellison D. Smith (D-SC), 1936-1937***
33rd: William A. Murray (N-OK), 1937-

* - outset and summarily executed
** - Speaker of the House, briefly acted between Garner outsing and his own arrest
*** - Senate President pro tempore, acted for the rest of the term until a new administration of the National Party was installed

TBC.
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« Reply #723 on: February 16, 2011, 05:24:39 PM »

1968-Stronger Wallace
1968-Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie
1972-Ronald Reagan/Claude Kirk
1976-Ronald Reagan/Claude Kirk

1980-Frank Church/Lloyd Bentsen
1984-Frank Church/Lloyd Bentsen
1988-Lloyd Bentsen/Gary Hart

1992-Donald Rumsfield/Paul Laxalt
1996-Al Gore/Bob Graham
2000-John McCain/Elizabeth Dole
2004-John McCain/Elizabeth Dole

2008-Mark Warner/Tom Daschle


Defeated Tickets
1968-Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew
1972-Hubert Humphrey/Ed Muskie
1976-Robert Byrd/Frank Church

1980-George HW Bush/John Anderson
1984-Bob Dole/Ben Fernandez
1988-Donald Rumsfield/Dick Cheney

1992-Lloyd Bentsen/Gary Hart
1996-Donald Rumsfield/Paul Laxalt
2000-Al Gore/Bob Graham
2004-Paul Wellstone/Howard Dean

2008-Elizabeth Dole/George W Bush
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« Reply #724 on: February 16, 2011, 08:49:52 PM »

Jim Morrison Lives!

40. James Douglas Morrison (I-CA)/Mike Gravel (I-AK) January 20th, 1981-January 19th, 1989
41. Mike Gravel (I-AK)/vacant January 19th, 1989-January 20th, 1989

42. Richard B Cheney (R-WY)/Alexander Haig (R-PA) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
43. Alice Cooper (I-MI)/Clinton Eastwood (I-CA) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
44. Clinton Eastwood (I-CA)/Kurt Cobain (I-WA) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2005

45. Richard B Cheney (F-WY)/George W Bush (F-TX) January 20th, 2005-September 16th, 2007
46. George W Bush (F-TX)/Michael Huckabee (F-AR) September 16th, 2007-January 20th, 2009

47. Marshall Mathers (I-MI)/Jesse "The Body" Ventura (I-MN) January 20th 2009-Present

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