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« Reply #175 on: June 08, 2009, 01:19:38 PM »

I don't think ive ever done a RFK Lives list...well here it goes...

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Robert F. “Bobby” Kennedy (D-NY): January 20th 1969-May 15th 1972*
38. Ralph W. Yarborough (D-TX): May 15th 1972-January 20th 1977

39. Howard H. Baker Jr. (R-TN): January 20th 1977-March 30th 1981*
40. James L. Buckley (R-NY): March 30th 1981-January 20th 1989

41. Charles S. “Chuck” Robb (D-VA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. Newton L. “Newt” Gingrich (R-GA):  January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Warren Beatty (D-CA): January 20th 2001-March 30 1983*
44. Ronald “Ron” Kirk (D-TX): March 30th 2003-January 20th 2009

45. Willard Mitt Romney (R-MA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

37. Assassinated by Arthur Bremer while on the campaign trail in Laurel, Maryland.
39. Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr. in Washington D.C.
43. Died in office of congestive heart failure.
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« Reply #176 on: June 08, 2009, 09:32:56 PM »

I don't think ive ever done a RFK Lives list...well here it goes...

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Robert F. “Bobby” Kennedy (D-NY): January 20th 1969-May 15th 1972*
38. Ralph W. Yarborough (D-TX): May 15th 1972-January 20th 1977

39. Howard H. Baker Jr. (R-TN): January 20th 1977-March 30th 1981*
40. James L. Buckley (R-NY): March 30th 1981-January 20th 1989

41. Charles S. “Chuck” Robb (D-VA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. Newton L. “Newt” Gingrich (R-GA):  January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Warren Beatty (D-CA): January 20th 2001-March 30 1983*
44. Ronald “Ron” Kirk (D-TX): March 30th 2003-January 20th 2009

45. Willard Mitt Romney (R-MA): January 20th 2009-???

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37. Assassinated by Arthur Bremer while on the campaign trail in Laurel, Maryland.
39. Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr. in Washington D.C.
43. Died in office of congestive heart failure.


Beatty/Kirk definitely would have made an interesting ticket.
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« Reply #177 on: June 08, 2009, 09:57:53 PM »

I'm a bit late, but very impressive, Mechaman.
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« Reply #178 on: June 09, 2009, 08:02:31 AM »

1965-1969 : Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) / Gerald Ford (R-MI)
1969-1973 : George McGovern (D-SD) / RFK (D-NY)
1973-1975 : Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA) *Ford is shot and dies
1975-1985 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Richard Nixon (R-CA)
1985-1993 : George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Howard Baker (R-TN)
1993-2001 : Bob Graham (D-FL) / Zell Miller (D-GA)
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« Reply #179 on: June 09, 2009, 08:19:41 AM »

1965-1969 : Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) / Gerald Ford (R-MI)
1969-1973 : George McGovern (D-SD) / RFK (D-NY)
1973-1975 : Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA) *Ford is shot and dies
1975-1985 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Richard Nixon (R-CA)
1985-1993 : George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Howard Baker (R-TN)
1993-2001 : Bob Graham (D-FL) / Zell Miller (D-GA)

Wow. First I was surprised that a crazy conservative like you chose a Rockefeller presidency as the start of a timeline. But looking at the 20 years of continuous republican presidency that you imagine, I understand better.
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« Reply #180 on: June 10, 2009, 09:09:05 AM »

Ok everyone here is my newest ALT President list: POD...Willkie wins the 1940 Election.

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941
33. Wendell L. Willkie (R-NY): January 20th 1941-October 8th 1944*
34. Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI): October 8th 1944-January 20th 1949

35. James Roosevelt (D-NY): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
37. Estes Kefauver (D-TN): January 20th 1961- August 10th 1963*
38. Joseph P. Kennedy II (D-MA): August 10th 1963-January 20th 1969

39. George Romney (R-MI): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
40. Frank F. Church II (D-ID): January 20th 1977-April 7th 1984*
41. Benjamin O’ Davis Jr (D-DC): April 7th 1984-January 20th 1988

42. Donald H. Rumsfeld (R-IL): January 20th 1988-January 20th 1993
43. Joseph R. “Bob” Kerry (D-NE): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
44. John R. Kasich (R-OH): January 20th 2001-October 3rd 2002*
45. Lynn Morley Martin (R-IL): October 3rd 2002-January 20th 2009

46. William B. “Bill” Richardson III (D-NM): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

33. Died in office of a massive heart attack.
37. Died in office of a massive heart attack.
40. Died in office from complications of pancreatic cancer.
44. Assassinated while on the campaign trail for Congressional candidates via Sniper fire
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« Reply #181 on: June 10, 2009, 05:56:00 PM »

Eh, that's Kerrey, not Kerry Smiley

42 Bill Clinton 1993-2000*
43 Al Gore 2000-2005
44 Rick Santorum 2005-2009
45 Charlie Crist 2009-?Huh
*dies of a heart attack.

Santorum elected president? SWEEEEEETTTT Smiley
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« Reply #182 on: June 12, 2009, 04:19:25 AM »

I'm a bit late, but very impressive, Mechaman.
Thanks! I decided to go ape and make a from the very beginning list of alternate presidents. When I have a ton of free time on my hand I'll probably start making the storyline. I'm probably going to have to do it in segments though, and I'm not really adept at early US history so I'm going to have to do a ton of research on Wikipedia. I always found US history (before 1860) to be pretty boring. It took me 7 hours just to think of alternate presidents and come up with the notes.
I think I may begin with the election of 1796 with a preface of the whole presidential succession rule covered at the Continental Congress to avoid future incidents.
Pretty much the Federalist party are still total douchebags, the Democratic-Republican Party still becomes the one party state and breaks into different parties. The National Republican party gets one candidate into office, as does the Whig party. The Democratic Party is a lot more split over the slave issue than IOTL. Democrats like Martin Van Buren, Lewis Cass, and even Franklin Pierce were occasional critics of the slave system. However, men like John Fairfield, Stephen A. Douglas, Jefferson Davis, and James Buchanan (who the nickname "doughface" was widely used) helped pass through legislation that pretty much reversed the flow of the emancipation movement of the 1840's. Pretty much almost every Republican opposes the continuation of slavery with John Fremont going further and proclaiming that blacks and whites should live in peace, harmony, and freedom in the same society. After the Civil War the Democrats become the conservative populist party and the Republicans become the classically liberal party. Democrats favor policies that favor the poor white man and are for restrictive laws against the black man like IOTL. The Republicans are for full civil rights for all races, women's suffrage (gets passed way early under the tenure of Kelso Blanche), strong supporters of civil liberties, and favor a free market system (free trade, low taxes), but with some progressives forming within the ranks in concern to the growth of corporations. Early on the progressive movement isn't as strong as IRL, but throughout the 20th century it would be a great deal stronger than IOTL.
In the 20th century the Progressive Party is formed and becomes the third big party in American politics. Unlike the so called "progressive American left", this party is actually pretty left. It's as left as most European leftist parties IOTL today as a matter of fact. Leftism would be quite a bit more popular than IOTL.
During the late 20th century, two minor parties, the Libertarian Party and the Reform Party would have some noticeable electoral success. Eventually the two parties decide that they'd be most effective if joined. Thus the "Liberty Party" was formed in 1992, members of the Liberty Party are simply called "Libertarians". This party would become the moderate libertarian party.
Small overview.
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« Reply #183 on: June 12, 2009, 09:26:04 AM »

Here's a quick list I just put together this morning...POD, that Ronald Reagan due to his age decides not to run for the nomination and the presidency in 1980. John M. Ashbrook, Ohio Congressman and 1972 Primary Opponent to Nixon, decides to run in his place and is able to assemble enough support to clinch the nomination...

The Ashbrook Revolution

39. James E. “Jimmy” Carter Jr. (D-GA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
40. John M. Ashbrook (R-OH): January 20th 1981-April 24th 1982*
41. Howard H. Baker Jr (R-TN): April 24th 1982-January 20th 1989
42. Jean Spencer Ashbrook (R-OH): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993

43. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
44. Gary L. Bauer (R-KY): January 20th 2001-May 10th 2005*
45. John S. McCain III (R-AZ): May 10th 2005-January 20th 2009

46. Clarence Ray Nagin Jr. (D-LA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

41. Died suddenly in office of a massive gastric hemorrhage
44. Assassinated in a grenade-caused explosion in Tbilisi, Georgia thrown by Vladimir Arutyunian
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« Reply #184 on: June 12, 2009, 10:33:08 AM »

The Symington Dynasty

35th: W. Stuart Symington (1961-1963) Democrat*
36th: John F. Kennedy (1963-1968) Democrat*
37th: John McCormack (1968-1969) Democrat
38th: Richard Nixon (1969-1974) Republican
39th: John Connally (1974-1981) Republican
40th: James W. Symington (1981) Democrat*
41st: John Glenn (1981-1989) Democrat
42nd: Robert "Bob" Dole (1989-1997) Republican
43rd: J. Fife Symington III (1997-1998) Republican*
44th: Lamar Alexander (1998-2001) Republican
45th: Paul Wellstone (2001-2003) Democrat*
46th: Harvey Gantt (2003-2009) Democrat*
47th: Kay Bay Hutchison (2009-???) Republican

35: Stuart Symington would decide to run int the primaries and after campaigning in primary states and non primary states, Symington would amass a large number of delegates. The Convention was a toss up as either Kennedy or Symington were the main challengers in the primaries and had the most delegates but some suspected a compromise candidate could take the nomination. Symington won the nomination in a close ballot and would offer the Vice Presidency to John F. Kennedy in a courtesy move and Kennedy surprisingly accepted. With the strange pairing, the Symington/Kennedy ticket won against the Nixon/Lodge in the super close election of 1960. Symington would be sworn in and would serve as a good President until after going to the south would have consequences as segregationists assassinated President Symington in a dastardly move and put Kennedy in office.

36: Vice President Kennedy came into office with the assassination of President Symington and would serve out the remainder of the slain President's term. Kennedy would be elected in his own right in 1964 against Nelson Rockefeller. Come Kennedy's first elected term, marital problems came up and that led to allegations at first of affairs between Kennedy and a number of women. The facts began to appear more readily until Congress began to call for impeachment of the quickly becoming unpopular Kennedy. President Kennedy would instead decide to resign from office.

40: Senator James Symington of Missouri would make his way to the Democratic Nomination in 1980 and would win against incumbent President Connally in a fairly close race. President Symington would only be in office for a short time when crazed man John Hinckley Jr would assassinate the President. Vice President Glenn would succeed him as President.

43: Governor Fife Symington of Arizona would run for the 1996 Republican Nomination after Dole's Vice President opted out of a run. Fife Symington would be the dark horse in the race but pulled off suprising wins and won the nomination. Symington won in a close election over the Democrats. During the 1996 Election, rumors of money laundering were floating around about Symington and when he got into office, allegations and evidence to back this up began to surface in 1997 and after a "Year of Hell" for Symington, resigned in 1998.

45: Senator Paul Wellstone defeated President Alexander in a close margin. Wellstone would lead the nation in uncertain times and would also die in 2003 of cancer. This sent the nation into mourning as Vice President Gantt succeeded Wellstone.

46: Harvey Gantt became the first African American President and would lead the nation through the War on Terror. After a close victory over John McCain in 2004, Gantt would be a good president for the remainder of his term.

47: Senator Kay B. Hutchison was elected the first ever Female President over Senator Joe Biden. Her Presidency has yet to be determined.
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« Reply #185 on: June 12, 2009, 12:00:52 PM »

Those unlucky Symingtons.
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« Reply #186 on: June 12, 2009, 04:38:51 PM »
« Edited: June 22, 2009, 11:23:37 AM by JewishConservative »




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« Reply #187 on: June 12, 2009, 06:37:40 PM »


1977-1981 : Jerry Falwell (D-TN) / Jimmy Carter (D-GA)
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« Reply #188 on: June 12, 2009, 07:38:56 PM »

Fallwell was a Democrat for much of his life. He became a Republican the same time a lot of southerners did (mid to late 1960s). But yeah, GOP FTW, those are not strong tls
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« Reply #189 on: June 14, 2009, 12:03:07 PM »

Here's a new list...Based on the POD that Governor Earl Warren openly campaigns in the 1948 primaries, and is able to clinch the nomination away from Dewey. He then is able to beat Truman, Thurmond and Wallace in the 1948 Election.

Warren's World

33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
34. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
35. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961

36. Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL): January 20th 1961-July 14th 1965*
37. Robert F. Wagner Jr. (D-NY): July 14th 1965-January 20th 1969

38. James A. “Jim” Rhodes (R-OH): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
39. Harold Hughes (D-IA): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
40. Charles H. “Chuck” Percy (R-IL): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. William E. “Bill” Brock III (R-TN): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993

42. Richard A. “Dick” Gephardt (D-MO): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. John R. “Jock” McKernan Jr. (R-ME): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
44. James E. “Jim” Clyburn (D-SC): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

36. Died in office of a massive heart attack.
44. First African-American President
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« Reply #190 on: June 14, 2009, 12:20:03 PM »
« Edited: June 14, 2009, 12:23:32 PM by George W. Bush Fan!! »

Here's a random one.

1921-1929 : Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) / Warren Harding (R-ND)

1929-1933 : Warren Harding (P-ND) / Herbert Hoover (P-OH) *
1933-1942 : FDR (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA) *
1942-1945 : Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO)

1945-1947 : Alf Landon (R-KS) / Robert Taft (R-OH) *
1947-1953 : Robert Taft (R-OH) / Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)
1953-1961 : Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA)

1961-1969 : JFK (D-MA) / Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)
1969-1970 : George McGovern (D-SD) / RFK (D-NY)*
1970-1977 : RFK (D-NY) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)
1977-1985 : Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1985-1993 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1993-1997 : George H.W Bush (R-TX) / Dan Quayle (R-IN)
1997-2005 : Bob Graham (D-FL) / Zell Miller (D-GA)
2005-2009 : Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
2009-Current : George W. Bush (R-TX) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)

*1933 : Harding was impeached for trying to rigg election of 1932, which he lost
*1942 : FDR Is shot by Nazi Supporter in Germany
*1947 : Landon killed self after  a assassin killed his family
*1970 : McGovern impeached for bribing GOP Congress to pass his agenda, then he lied about it
 
Also pres. who retired after one term :

Bill Clinton, left with 87% app.ratings
George Bush Senior, left with 72% App.Ratings
Robert Taft, left with 65% App. Ratings
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« Reply #191 on: June 14, 2009, 01:12:06 PM »

Here's another :

Consequences of 2010 Midterm Elections Sad

2009-2013 : Barack Obama (D-IL) / Joe Biden (D-DE)
2013-2021 : Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)
2021-2025 : Bobby Jindal (R-LA) / John Thune (R-SD)
2025-current : Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (D-SD) /  Chelsea Clinton Rogers (D-NJ) 
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« Reply #192 on: June 14, 2009, 06:52:19 PM »

Ok here is a list based on if Al Smith was able to gain the nod again in 1932, and went on to win a narrow victory over Hoover.

31. Herbert Hoover (R-CA): March 4th 1929-March 4th 1933
32. Alfred E. “Al” Smith Jr. (D-NY): March 4th 1933-October 4th 1944*
33. Millard Evelyn Tidings (D-MD): October 4th 1944-January 20th 1949

34. John W. Bricker (R-OH): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
35. William Averell Harriman (D-NY): January 20th 1957-November 22nd 1963*
36. Albert A. Gore Sr. (D-TN): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969

37. William W. Scranton (R-PA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
38.  William C. Westmoreland (R-SC): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981

39.  Birch E. Bayh II (D-IN) January 20th 1981-November 1st 1985*
40. Frances T. “Sissy” Farenthold (D-TX) November 1st 1985- January 20th 1993*

41.  Jack F. Kemp (R-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
42.  Andrew Young (D-GA): January 20th 2001-March 12th 2002*
43. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): March 12th 2002-January 20th 2009

44. William W. Scranton, III (R-PA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

32. Died in office of a massive heart attack
35. Assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas.
39. Assassinated by a crazed anti-nuclear weapons activist.
40. First Female President of the United States
42. First African-American President of the United States, also killed in a domestic terrorism bombing

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« Reply #193 on: June 14, 2009, 08:02:26 PM »

Here's a random one.

1921-1929 : Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) / Warren Harding (R-ND)

1929-1933 : Warren Harding (P-ND) / Herbert Hoover (P-OH) *
1933-1942 : FDR (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA) *
1942-1945 : Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO)

1945-1947 : Alf Landon (R-KS) / Robert Taft (R-OH) *
1947-1953 : Robert Taft (R-OH) / Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)
1953-1961 : Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA)

1961-1969 : JFK (D-MA) / Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)
1969-1970 : George McGovern (D-SD) / RFK (D-NY)*
1970-1977 : RFK (D-NY) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)
1977-1985 : Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1985-1993 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1993-1997 : George H.W Bush (R-TX) / Dan Quayle (R-IN)
1997-2005 : Bob Graham (D-FL) / Zell Miller (D-GA)
2005-2009 : Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
2009-Current : George W. Bush (R-TX) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)

*1933 : Harding was impeached for trying to rigg election of 1932, which he lost
*1942 : FDR Is shot by Nazi Supporter in Germany
*1947 : Landon killed self after  a assassin killed his family
*1970 : McGovern impeached for bribing GOP Congress to pass his agenda, then he lied about it
 
Also pres. who retired after one term :

Bill Clinton, left with 87% app.ratings
George Bush Senior, left with 72% App.Ratings
Robert Taft, left with 65% App. Ratings


Congratulations. This list just jumped the shark.
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« Reply #194 on: June 17, 2009, 08:20:26 AM »

Ok here is my newest list...Based on if former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt had accepted President Truman's offer of the VP slot during the 1948 Election.
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Eleanor's Day

33. Hary S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-November 1st 1950*
34. Eleanor Roosevelt (D-NY): November 1st 1950-January 20th 1953

35. Robert A. Taft (R-OH): January 20th-July 31st 1953*
36. Douglas MacArthur (R-AK): July 31st 1953-January 20th 1961

37. Frank G. Clement (D-TN): January 20th 1961-June 12th 1963*
38. Robert F. Wagner Jr. (D-NY): June 12th 1963-January 20th 1969

39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
40. Edward M. “Ted” Kennedy (D-MA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
41. John M. Ashbrook (R-OH): January 20th 1981-April 24th 1982*
42. John G. Tower (R-TX): April 24th 1982-January 20th 1989
43. Arlen Specter (R-PA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993

44. Kent Conrad (D-ND): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
45. Winthrop P. Rockefeller Jr. (R-AK): January 20th 2001-July 16th 2006*
46.  Richard G. “Dick” Lugar (R-IN): July 16th 2006-January 20th 2009

47. Robert C. “Bobby” Scott (D-VA): January 20th 2009-???

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33. President Truman is able to convince former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt to run with him as his Vice Presidential Running mate. Her enormous popularity ensures an even more decisive victory of Dewey, Thurmond, and Wallace. However, due to butterflies…Harry S. Truman is assassinated by Puerto Rican nationalists Griselio Torresola and Oscar Collazo outside the Blair House on November 1st 1950.

34. Eleanor Roosevelt is sworn as the nation’s 34th and first Female President. Eleanor continued many of the New Deal Programs, doesn’t attempt to seize the Steel Mills and fought off calls from Joseph McCarthy about Communists in her administration. In dealing with the Korean War, she does not cross the 38th Parallel, which allowed the US to properly fund the Chinese to do the fighting for them. Despite her high approval ratings, Eleanor cites against running for a Second term in her own right, citing her age. Her lack of a Vice President leads to an incredibly divided National Convention in 1952.

35. Adlai Stevenson is able to clinch the Democratic Nomination away from Senator Estes Kefauver. The Republican National Convention was almost just as divided, as General Eisenhower declined the nomination. Senator Robert Taft would clinch the nomination after several rounds of balloting and choose General Douglas MacArthur as his running mate. The Taft/MacArthur ticket would go on to soundly defeat Stevenson in the General Election. However Bob Taft would not be able to institute many of his Conservative Reforms, when he died of a Brain Hemorrhage from complications of cancer, only seven months after being inaugurated.

36. Douglas MacArthur was sworn in as the nation’s 36th President, after the nation suffered its third Presidential death in less than ten years. President MacArthur would govern a relatively quiet and boring 1950’s much like OTL Eisenhower did. Although 76 years old, the Vigorous MacArthur decides to seek a second term and indeed wins it against New York Governor Averell Harriman. MacArthur leaves office with high approval ratings and as the nation’s oldest president at 80 years old.

37. In 1960, The Democrats needed a Young Moderate that could appeal to both the South and its growing ethnic strength in the Northeast. Due to his rapidly declining health Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts, declined to seek the Presidency. The American People would turn to the 40 year old, Two-Term former Governor of Tennessee Frank G. Clement, who with the support of Lyndon B. Johnson and the Southern Bosses was able to clinch the nomination. For his running mate Clement chose chief Primary rival, the Catholic New York Senator Robert F. Wagner Jr. The Clement/Wagner ticket would win a narrow victory over Vice President Wayne Morse and his running mate Senator Roman Hruska of Nebraska. President Clement would handle things relatively like Jack did IOTL, even on Civil Rights. In the summer of 1963, in order to squelch the growing backlash against the Civil Rights movement, Clement did a Southern Listening Tour. On June 12th, in Jackson, Mississippi…President Clement would meet with NAACP Field Secretary Medger Evers, when both were assassinated by Byron de la Beckwith. He was only 43 years old.

38. Robert F. Wagner Jr. was sworn in as the nation’s first Catholic President and 38th President. After the assassination of Clement, Wagner felt as if something had to be done about Civil Rights, and after months of arm twisting…The Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed. Wagner, with his running mate Governor John Connally of Texas would win a landslide victory over the Nixon/Goldwater ticket. However, it would be a growing White Backlash against Urban rioters, Anti-War protests against his escalation of Vietnam and an increased Tax Burden due to a large number of his domestic programs that would ensure his defeat to fellow New Yorker, the Law and Order moderate Governor Nelson Rockefeller.

39. Nelson Rockefeller ascended the White House to fight a nation torn asunder, and he felt that he was just the man to unite it. His presidency, with his foreign policy guided by Henry Kissinger, would be almost identical to the policies pursued by OTL Nixon and Ford. He would win, despite being distracted by his increasingly ill brother Winthrop, a landslide victory over former Vice President Connally with his running mate Senator Ed Muskie. Yet a worsening economy and lack of personality would doom Vice President Dole’s chances of winning the Presidency, against the political Kennedy machine.

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« Reply #195 on: June 17, 2009, 08:21:00 AM »

40. In the aftermath of the assassination of his brother Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, Senator Edward M. Kennedy felt as if the weight of his father’s hopes rested in his shoulders. He finally convinced himself to run against the perceived weak Vice President Dole in the 1976 election. However during the Presidency, the young Teddy was not able to shake his playboy image, and a republican Congress shot down many of his attempts to pass Wagnerian Domestic Programs. Kennedy’s indecisiveness in dealing with the Iran Hostage Crisis effectively ended his chances of reelection against the fiery conservative ticket of Ohio Governor John Ashbrook and former Defense Secretary John Tower of Texas.

41. Former Ohio Congressman turned Governor in 1974; John M. Ashbrook quickly rose as the figurehead of the growing Conservative wing of the GOP. After sweeping the moderate opposition in the 1980 primaries, Ashbrook would clinch the nomination and choose former Senator and Secretary of Defense John Tower as his running mate. The Ashbrook/Tower ticket would soundly defeat Kennedy/Askew in the General Election. His Conservative Revolution was short lived as he died of a massive Gastric Hemorrhage while in office.

42. John Tower would take on the mantle of the Presidency after President Ashbrook’s sudden death and continue his conservative policies, whether that would Supply-side economics, a massive buildup of the US Military or hard balling the Soviets. His pick of moderate Senator Alen Specter of Pennsylvania as his running mate was crucial to his gargantuan victory over former Vice President Ruben Askew in the 1984 election. Questions over his alcoholism and womanizing would badly damage his approval ratings at the end of his second term. Vice President Specter worked hard to distance himself from the President’s personal issues, and was able to secure his own nomination and narrowly beat the gaffe prone Senator Joe Biden of Delaware.

43. The nation’s first Jewish President would receive high approval ratings in pursuit of his moderate approval ratings and his successful execution of solving the Persian Gulf Crisis. However, it would be Specter’s own party and the economy which would prove to be his downfall. A strong third party showing led by Conservative Patrick Buchanan weekend Specter’s already lukewarm support in the South threw the ’92 election to moderate-to-conservative Democrat…Senator Kent Conrad of North Dakota.

44. With his immense knowledge of Economic issues, Kent Conrad, a farm Baby Boomer from North Dakota was able to use that to his advantage in the 1992 General Election. Conrad’s 1st term was mainly hampered by a resurgent Republican congress in 1994, but he did manage to have a balanced federal budget by the end of his 1st term. Conrad in 1996 would go on to defeat former Vice President Donald Rumsfeld of Illinois in the General Election by a fairly comfortable margin. Conrad’s second term would even be more Republican-lite as he mostly dealt with the American response to the genocide in Kosovo and a push for Alternative energy sources. The President’s immense popularity upon leaving office was thought to guarantee Vice President Mckernan the 2000 election…that would turn out to not be the case.

45. Vice President John Mckernan would be denied in the Presidency not by the popular vote of America but in the House of Representatives. In the closest election in history, neither candidate received the necessary amount of electoral votes to win the Presidency as it was effectively tied. However since congress had been in GOP hands since ’95, their Delegations went for the moderate-to-conservative Arkansas Governor Winthrop Paul Rockefeller and his running mate Senator Dick Lugar of Indiana. Yet coming in to office without a mandate from the public and congressional deadlock caused Rockefeller to have a rough start at the Presidency. On March 30th 2003, catastrophe struck as Islamic Fundamentalist terrorist hijacked multiple airplanes and crashed them into several American monuments. President Rockefeller’s approval ratings would soar in the aftermath of the attacks and his successful persecution of his War on Terror would ensure his reelection against Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia in 2004. However On July 20, 2005, however, citing myeloproliferative disease, a blood disorder that could have developed into leukemia if left untreated, transferred his executive powers to Vice President Lugar. Rockefeller underwent several unsuccessful bone marrow transplants, and only almost a year later lost his battle with the disease on July 16th 2006.

46. Richard G. “Dick” Lugar would ascend to the Presidency, amid a nation consumed in grief and uncertainty. In the month’s following Rockefeller’s death Lugar would use the Presidency to try to get a number of treaties passed for the dismantling of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons with various nations. He would also push for subsidies for farmers to turn their corn into Ethanol to help wing America’s dependence of foreign oil. In the end Lugar’s advanced age, his lack of a successful conclusion in the War on Terror and a Recession brought on by both Conrad era and Rockefeller era economic policies. He would loose his bid for reelection in 2008 against former Virginia Governor Bobby Scott.

47. The first African American and the first with Filipino Ancestry, Robert C. “Bobby” Scott came into the office under a platform of Change. The former congressman became Virginia’s second African American Governor on January 12 2002 and campaigned on Welfare Reform, Solving the economic crisis and ending the War in Terror with honor.
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« Reply #196 on: June 18, 2009, 08:36:53 AM »

LBJ suffers a fatal heart attack during the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22, 1963 to August 2, 1964
37. John McCormack (D-MA): August 2, 1964 to January 20, 1965
38. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): January 20, 1965 to January 20, 1973

39. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20, 1973 to February 2, 1979
40. John Tower (R-TX): February 2, 1979 to January 20, 1981

41. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY): January 20, 1981 to January 20, 1989
42. Lawton Chiles (D-FL): January 20, 1989 to January 20, 1993

43. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20, 1993 to January 20, 1997
44. William J. Clinton (D-AK): January 20, 1997 to September 6, 2003
45. John F. Kerry (D-MA): September 6, 2003 to January 20, 2005

46. John S. McCain (R-AZ): January 20, 2005 to January 20, 2009
47. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-IL): January 20, 2009 to Present

37. With a vacancy in the Vice Presidency, Speaker of the House John McCormack was sworn into office with a major foreign policy crisis on his hands. After ording Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara to investigation, it was determined that no navy ships were attacked by the North Vietnamese. President McCormack announced this in his first televised address in the Oval Office and also announced that he would not be a candidate for President in 1964. At the Democratic National Convention in Atlantic City, NJ, Senator Hubert Humphrey was nominated on the first ballot. He selected Governor Terry Sanford of North Carolina, a southerner with a progressive record on education and civil rights. Humphrey would defeat Barry Goldwater in a landslide and add to the Democrats majorities in the House and Senate.

38. After being sworn into office, Humphrey would continue the Great Society programs begun by President Johnson. Humphrey would begin pulling American military advisors from Vietnam and authorize his Secretary of State J. William Fulbright to mediate in the conflict (instead of military action). With no military involvement in Vietnam or race riots in the cities, more money would be invested in the Great Society programs and enforcement of civil rights laws including the 1965 Voting Rights Act. The Republicans achieve minor gains in congressional races in 1966. Actor and Republican activist Ronald Reagan fell short in his race for Governor of California as incumbent Edmund G. "Pat" Brown was reelected. In 1968, President Humphrey was easily re-elected over former Vice President Richard Nixon and former Alabama Governor George Wallace, running as an independent. Nixon's criticisms over the increased spending of the Great Society fell on deaf ears. This would be Nixon's final political campaign.

39. Rockefeller won the White House back for the Republicans as he defeated Vice President Sanford, the Democratic nominee who won every southern state except Florida and Texas, home state of Rockefeller's running mate Senator John Tower. Rockefeller's liberalism in civil rights and social issues did not sit well with southern conservatives especially Senator Jesse Helms, who ran an independent campaign for President in 1976. By default, the Democrats nominated Governor Jerry Brown but he won only in Hawaii, Rhode Island and DC. Helms won in Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia. Rockefeller won the rest.
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« Reply #197 on: June 18, 2009, 09:18:59 AM »

40. On February 2, 1979, John Tower was visiting John Conally in Texas when he learned that President Rockefeller suffered a heart attack in the Oval Office and died shortly thereafter. As President, Tower had to deal with a recession and rising inflation at home, an Iranian revolution and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. On the advice of Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Vice President Robert Dole, Tower allowed the former Shah of Iran into the US for medical treatment. This resulted in the taking of hostages at the US Embassy on Teheran. An aborted rescue attempt by US Marines drove President Tower to the bottle (it was rumored that he had drinking problems for many years). On the campaign trails, Tower appeared visibly inebriated. After passing up races for President in 1972 and 1976, Bobby Kennedy threw his hat in the ring and was on his way to the nomination after winning the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary. Former Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia won most of the southern primaries but RFK clinched the party's nomination. Kennedy selected Senator Lawton Chiles as his running mate and promised Carter the job of National Security Advisor (became Secretary of Defense after Scoop Jackson died in 1983). The November 1980 election was a rout. Kennedy won 62 percent of the popular vote. Tower won his home state (barely) plus Alabama, Mississippi and Oklahoma: just 4 states. The Republicans having won control of the Senate in 1976, lost it to the Democrats in 1980. RFK had a mandate.

42. As President, Chiles handling of the war against Iraq in the Persian Gulf earned him an 89 percent popularity rating but that fell when he was unable to handle to recession and budget crises. Bob Dole, 1984 GOP nominee, decided not to run in 1992. Chiles was defeated for reelection by Senator Jack Kemp.

43. Although President Kemp entered 1996 with an economic recovery thanks to his tax and spending cuts, he decided not to run for re-election. To satisfy social conservatives and supporters of Speaker Newt Gingrich, Vice President Pete Wilson picked Tom DeLay as his running mate. The Republican convention in San Diego was noted for its hard right shrill tone and dubbed "Nuremberg in the Pacific." For the Democrats, former Governor Clinton scored an upset victory in the Iowa caucuses over former Vice President Michael Dukakis. Although Dukakis won the New Hampshire primary, the momentum was on Clinton's side as he swept the Super Tuesday primaries which forced Dukakis to suspend his campaign. When Clinton clinched the nomination, he selected Senator John Kerry as his running mate. Clinton enjoyed a comfortable victory that November over Wilson.

44. By 2000, Clinton balanced the budget and would win easy re-election over Florida Governor Jeb Bush. In his second term, Clinton dealt with the aftermath of 9/11/01. The US led an international military coalition that invaded Afghanistan and defeated Al Qaeda and the Taliban. By Christmas, British commandos captured Osama bin Laden in a cave at Tora Bora and turned him over to the US. Bin Laden was convicted and executed on March 13, 2003. Many Republicans demanded that Clinton invade Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power but he would not do that. The stress over the situation caused Clinton to have a heart attack and he died on September 6.

45. President Kerry continued Clinton's policies toward the Middle East and refused to invade Iraq. John McCain defeated Kerry in the 2004 election. Although Republicans won back control of the Senate, the Democrats picked up a Republican Senate seat in Illinois with the election of Bill Clinton's widow Hillary (she trounced Alan Keyes).

46. Shortly after his inauguration, McCain ordered the invasion of Iraq. While Saddam was removed from power, the troops were bogged down trying to keep the peace. Over 5,000 troops died after McCain declared mission accomplished. Senator Hillary Clinton breezed through the Democratic primaries in 2008 and defeated McCain that November.
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« Reply #198 on: June 18, 2009, 04:49:31 PM »

Ok here is another quick list I whipped up based on if Humphrey had won the '68 election against Nixon and Wallace

All The Way with HHH

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973

38. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA):  January 20th 1973-September 5th 1975*
39. Charles H. “Chuck” Percy (R-IL): September 5th 1975-January 20th 1981

40. Harold E. Hughes (D-IA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. Paul D. Laxalt (R-NV): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. Jack F. Kemp (R-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997

43. Kent Conrad (D-ND): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
44. Colin L. Powell (R-NY): January 20th 2005-???*

Notes.

38. Assassinated by Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme in Sacramento, California.
44. First African American President
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« Reply #199 on: June 20, 2009, 02:44:47 AM »

The Death of Conservatism

POD FDR dies in 1943.

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1943)
Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1943-1945)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1953)
John Bricker (R-OH) (1953-1957)
Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) (1957-1965)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1965-1973)
John Kennedy (D-MA) (1973-1981)
Robert Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo (D-NY) (1993-2001)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (2001-2009)
John Edwards (D-NC) (2009-

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