List of Alternate Presidents

[Captain Chaos]

bumping this thread

[Captain Chaos]

POD: Warren Harding Survives Heart Attack in 1923

29. Warren G. Harding (R-OH) (1921-1925)
30. Charles W. Bryan (D-NE) (1925-1933)
31. Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA) (1933-1941)
32. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (R-NY) (1941-1944)
33. Robert Taft (R-OH) (1944-1949)
34. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) (1949-1953)
35. Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1953-1957)
36. Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1957-1965)
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) (1965-1973)
38. Charles Percy (R-IL) (1973-1981)
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) (1981-1989)
40. Jack Kemp (D-NY) (1989-1993)
41. Dianne Feinstein (R-CA) (1993-2001)
42. John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
43. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) (2009-Present)

29. Harding's presidency would be hurt by the Teapot Dome Scandal and his health problems that limited his campaigning for re-election in 1924. The Democrats nominated Gov. Charles Bryan of Nebraska on the tenth ballot. To appease the northern delegates that supported Al Smith and the southern and western delegates that supported William Gibbs McAdoo, Congressman Alben Barkley (D-KY) was nominated for Vice President. Bryan campaigned on a law and order platform, tax breaks for farmers and lowering tariffs.

30. President Bryan presided over a prosperous economy that categorized the Roaring 20s. In 1928, prominent Republicans Herbert Hoover, Hiram Johnson and William Borah chose not to run. But former Vice President Calvin Coolidge did and the Republicans nominated him on the first ballot. However, Bryan was easily re-elected. In his second term, Bryan vetoed the Smoot-Hawley Act which would have increased tariffs. The stock market would fall by 5 percent and a recession would follow. The Republicans would make huge gains in the 1930 congressional races and win back the majority in the House and Senate.

31. Herbert Hoover decided to throw his hat in the ring. The former Commerce Secretary and President of the American Red Cross earned great praise for his humanitarian activities in the aftermath of the Great Mississippi River flood of 1927. The Republicans nominated Hoover on the first ballot. His running mate was Senator George Norris of Nebraska. Hoover's "Chicken in every pot" campaign earned the victory of Democratic nominee Barkley. In office, Hoover successfully pushed major banking reforms, housing bills and the Highway Act of 1934. Hoover won a landslide re-election over Al Smith, the first Catholic nominated for President. Smith's religion hurt him in the South as Hoover would win Texas (home state of Smith's running mate, John Nance Garner), Florida and Virginia. Despite Hoover's opposition, the Prohibition Amendment was repealed in 1937. Despite being heavily favored for a third term in 1940, Hoover decided to retire and handpicked New York Governor Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. as his successor. Roosevelt chose Senator and former US Attorney General Robert Taft (R-OH) as his running mate, primarily to win over supporters of Senator Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI). They easily defeated the Democratic ticket of Cordell Hull and Millard Tydings.

[Captain Chaos]

POD: Warren Harding Survives Heart Attack in 1923

29. Warren G. Harding (R-OH) (1921-1925)
30. Charles W. Bryan (D-NE) (1925-1933)
31. Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA) (1933-1941)
32. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (R-NY) (1941-1944)
33. Robert Taft (R-OH) (1944-1949)
34. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) (1949-1953)
35. Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1953-1957)
36. Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1957-1965)
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) (1965-1973)
38. Charles Percy (R-IL) (1973-1981)
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) (1981-1989)
40. Jack Kemp (D-NY) (1989-1993)
41. Dianne Feinstein (R-CA) (1993-2001)
42. John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
43. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) (2009-Present)

29. Harding's presidency would be hurt by the Teapot Dome Scandal and his health problems that limited his campaigning for re-election in 1924. The Democrats nominated Gov. Charles Bryan of Nebraska on the tenth ballot. To appease the northern delegates that supported Al Smith and the southern and western delegates that supported William Gibbs McAdoo, Congressman Alben Barkley (D-KY) was nominated for Vice President. Bryan campaigned on a law and order platform, tax breaks for farmers and lowering tariffs.

30. President Bryan presided over a prosperous economy that categorized the Roaring 20s. In 1928, prominent Republicans Herbert Hoover, Hiram Johnson and William Borah chose not to run. But former Vice President Calvin Coolidge did and the Republicans nominated him on the first ballot. However, Bryan was easily re-elected. In his second term, Bryan vetoed the Smoot-Hawley Act which would have increased tariffs. The stock market would fall by 5 percent and a recession would follow. The Republicans would make huge gains in the 1930 congressional races and win back the majority in the House and Senate.

31. Herbert Hoover decided to throw his hat in the ring. The former Commerce Secretary and President of the American Red Cross earned great praise for his humanitarian activities in the aftermath of the Great Mississippi River flood of 1927. The Republicans nominated Hoover on the first ballot. His running mate was Senator George Norris of Nebraska. Hoover's "Chicken in every pot" campaign earned the victory of Democratic nominee Barkley. In office, Hoover successfully pushed major banking reforms, housing bills and the Highway Act of 1934. Hoover won a landslide re-election over Al Smith, the first Catholic nominated for President. Smith's religion hurt him in the South as Hoover would win Texas (home state of Smith's running mate, John Nance Garner), Florida and Virginia. Despite Hoover's opposition, the Prohibition Amendment was repealed in 1937. Despite being heavily favored for a third term in 1940, Hoover decided to retire and handpicked New York Governor Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. as his successor. Roosevelt chose Senator and former US Attorney General Robert Taft (R-OH) as his running mate, primarily to win over supporters of Senator Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI). They easily defeated the Democratic ticket of Cordell Hull and Millard Tydings.

32. As President, Roosevelt worked to increase the size of the navy and promised to remain neutral in WWII but that neutrality was broken when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt asked Congress to declare war on Japan and the Axis powers. WWII goes the same as OTL. Tragedy would strike on the eve of the Republican National Convention when President Roosevelt died on July 12, 1944 due to complications from arthritis and heart trouble. He was 56.

33. Taft was sworn in as President and in his first nationally broadcast speech promised to continue the war until victory. The Republicans unanimously nominated Taft. He selected Congressman Fred Hartley (R-NJ) as his running mate. Taft would also learn of the existence of the Manhattan Project. The Taft-Hartley ticket defeated the Democratic ticket of Albert Chandler and his running mate Ernest McFarland. The war ended when atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. In peacetime, Taft would prove to be less popular. He got the GI Bill, 1945 Civil Rights Act, and public housing legislation passed but was denounced by organized labor when he signed the 1946 Labor Relations Act limiting union activities into law. In foreign affairs, Taft's opposition to the United Nations and financial aid to postwar Europe led to the resignation of Arthur Vandenburg as Secretary of State. The Democrats swept the 1946 midterm elections. Taft decided to run for reelection in 1948 but Vice President Hartley decided to retire from politics. Taft chose Governor Earl Warren (R-CA) as his running mate as a nod to the progressive wing. Franklin D. Roosevelt, a former Governor of New York elected to the Senate in 1944, was nominated by the Democrats. He selected Senator Claude Pepper as his running mate. The Roosevelt-Pepper ticket won in a landslide.

34. In his inauguration speech, FDR promised a New Deal for the American people and to fight Communism abroad. FDR got the Marshall Plan (named after his Secretary of State George Marshall) passed as well as funding for a future site of the United Nations building in New York City. The UN, located at this time in Toronto, would move to New York in 1951. FDR named Adlai Stevenson as the first US Ambassador to the UN. On the recommendation of Secretary of War Dwight Eisenhower, Roosevelt ordered increased aid to the Chinese Nationalists and military advisors to South Korea. This resulted in the capture and execution of Mao Zedong in China and Kim Il Sung in Korea. Chiang Kai Shek would rule China until his death in 1975. Korea would drift between democracy and military dictatorships until 1985. Upon the formation of NATO in 1950, FDR appointed Eisenhower as the first US Ambassador to NATO. In 1952, FDR announced that he would not seek reelection for health reasons (he would die of a stroke in 1954). Vice President Pepper easily won the Democratic nod and picked Adlai Stevenson as his running mate.

[Captain Chaos]

35. Vice President Pepper defeated the Republican candidate, Senator William Knowland of California in 1952. While Pepper was praised for his progressive reforms and a voting rights act that became law thanks to the efforts of Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson, his civil rights stance caused a backlash in the South. In 1956, Senator Richard Russell announced his candidacy for President as the States Rights Democratic party candidate. Russell and his running mate Strom Thurmond won most of the South except Florida and Texas. The Republicans nominated former New York Governor Thomas Dewey for President and Senator Wayne Morse of Oregon for Vice President. Dewey would have more electoral college votes than Pepper but short of an absolute majority. Congress would vote for the next President and Vice President. When Russell's conditions for his support became unacceptable to both Dewey and Pepper, a deal was reached and Pepper instructed the Florida House delegation to vote for Dewey and he was elected President. In the Senate, a coalition of Republicans, non-Southern Democrats, and Senator George Smathers (D-FL) voted to elect Wayne Morse Vice President. The vote was announced by Adlai Stevenson in his role as President of the Senate.

36. After Dewey was inaugurated, he announced the nomination of former President Pepper as Ambassador to the UN. Pepper would play a role in mediating the Suez Crisis but would find it tougher to bring peace in Vietnam. Dewey was reelected in 1960 over former Vice President Stevenson. Senator Humphrey was nominated by the Democrats in Atlantic City. He selected Senator John F. Kennedy for Vice President. In the Republican primaries, Barry Goldwater win a upset victory over Vice President Morse in California. By the time the Republican convention began in San Francisco, no candidate clinched the nomination. After two ballots, Nelson Rockefeller and William Scranton released their delegates who voted for Morse and clinching the nomination. The conservative delegates demanded that Morse pick Goldwater as his running mate, which President Dewey opposed. Although Morse selected Senator Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME), the delegates forced a roll call vote. Smith barely won the delegate vote for VP over Goldwater. When Smith spoke before the convention, the delegates walked out in protest. By election day, Humphrey won a landslide victory over Morse. HHH won every Southern state except Mississippi and South Carolina, which were carried by States Rights Democrat Strom Thurmond. Morse won only the states of Oregon (barely), Vermont, Maine and Wyoming.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Reagan gets assassinated and HW Bush is president (1981-1985)
HW gets hit with a recession and he is blamed and loses to Bob Dole in the primary
Bob Dole         (1985-1993)
 
No 1987 October stock market melt down, no Bill Clinton Dukakis speach.

Mario Cuomo  (1993-2001)

[RosettaStoned]

FDR follows the two- term tradition
POD FDR does not run for a third term in 1940.
Cordell Hull (D-TN) (1941-1949)
Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1949-1953)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1953-1961)
Edmund "Pat" Brown (D-CA) (1961-1969)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1969-1977)
Reubin Askew (D-FL) (1977-1981)
Howard Baker (R-TN) (1981-1989) (
Phil Crane (R-IL) (1989-1993)
Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1993-2001)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT) (2001-2009)
Douglas Wilder (D-VA) (2009-

[Historico]

Watergate Breaks Early
37. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973*
38.  George S. McGovern (D-SD): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977*
39. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1977-March 30th 1981*
40. Edward Brooke(R-MA): March 20th 1981-January 20th 1985*
41. Gary Hart (D-CA): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993*
42. Dan Quayle (R-ID): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997*
43. Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005*
44. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI): January 20th 2005-???

[Antonio the Sixth]

Watergate Breaks Early
37. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973*
38.  George S. McGovern (D-SD): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977*
39. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1977-March 30th 1981*
40. Edward Brooke(R-MA): March 20th 1981-January 20th 1985*
41. Gary Hart (D-CA): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993*
42. Dan Quayle (R-ID): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997*
43. Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005*
44. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI): January 20th 2005-???

Quayle ?

[Joe Republic]

Was it a mistake, or is Quayle meant to be from Idaho instead of Indiana in that scenario?

[Historico]

Just A Hearbeat Away

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20th 1989-May 5th 1991*
42. James D. “Dan” Quayle (R-IN): May 5th 1991-January 20th 1993*
43. Mario Cuomo (D-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001*
44. Sam A. Nunn Jr, (D-GA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005*
45. John E. “Jeb” Bush (R-FL): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009*
46. Harold Ford Jr. (D-TN): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes

41. On May 5th 1991, while on a normal morning jog President Bush suffered from an atrial fibrillation due to his hyperthyroidism. However ITTL, Bush instead has congestive heart failure and is not able to resuscitate. Dan Quayle is sworn in as the 42nd President by the evening soon after the late President was declared dead.

42. In the first days of the “Quayle” administration, it soon became apparent that Dan was to handle the rest of Bush’s term as a Caretaker President. This was especially true after he appointed Secretary of State James Baker as his Vice President. Yet he soon became the darling of the Social made Conservative base within his party, which made him decide to run for his own term as President. Quayle is challenged by New Jersey Governor Tom Kean to represent the moderate wing of the party. The 42nd President sweeps the South, the Midwest and a couple Industrial states which enable him to clinch the nomination.

43. The “Hamlet on the Hudson” made his decision in the fall of 1991 that he decided to seek the nomination of his party against the perceived weak candidate of President Quayle. Although both Quayle and Perot tried to portray Cuomo as to Liberal for the country, due to effective party split with moderate Republicans backing Perot. Cuomo would walk away from the election 342-171-25. The former Governor of New York, has a very successful Presidency bringing about Health Care Reform, A “Fair trade Agreement” with Canada/Mexico, and winning a landslide victory over former Vice President James Baker in the 1996 Election.

44. Vice President Sam Nunn won an incredibly narrow victory over moderate Arizona Senator John McCain as voter’s supported for what they saw as essentially Cuomo’s third term. Although he had an extremely high public support for his aggressive execution of the War on Terror after the Al Qaeda Terrorist Attacks. Yet Gridlock in Congress, fears over his age, and the want for change after 12 years of Democratic rule allows for President Nunn to be defeated by son of the late President George H.W. Bush and Florida Governor Jeb Bush.

45. Running on a platform of Change, John E. “Jeb” Bush was sworn in as the 45th President of the United States. Although immensely popular at the start of his first term, his fumble of not providing fast enough relief in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, a failed policy in Afghanistan, and a Congressional showdown over Social Security reform, already made his reelection chances pretty dim. After barley gathering enough delegates to clinch the nomination, the economy crashes due to the economic policies pursued by the Cuomo and Nunn administrations. He is defeated in his bid for Re-election by the young, African American Governor from Tennessee…Harold Ford Jr.

46. The First African American and Generation X President…Harold Ford Jr. scored a resounding victory in November of 2008 against President Bush. The young Congressman won a narrow victory for the Tennessee Governorship in 2002, which propelled him against frontrunner Andrew Cuomo for the nomination.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Taft in 1952 is victorious and dies later, no Nixon no watergate.

1953-1957 Robert A. Taft
1953-1957 E. Warren
1961-1969 LBJ
1969-1977 Albert Gore Sr.
1977-1985 Bob Dole
1985-1989 Howard Baker
1989-1997 Dick Gephardt
1997-2001 Joe Biden
2001-2009 John McCain
2009-current John Forbes Kerry

[RosettaStoned]

Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1977-1981)
Bob Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Al Gore (D-TN) (1993-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Joe Biden (D-DE) (2009-

[Captain Chaos]

Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1977-1981)
Bob Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Al Gore (D-TN) (1993-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Joe Biden (D-DE) (2009-

What is the POD?

[RosettaStoned]

Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1977-1981)
Bob Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Al Gore (D-TN) (1993-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Joe Biden (D-DE) (2009-

What is the POD?

There isnt one. Thats just for fun.

[Historico]

Hey...Heres one I wipped up based on DUBYAWELUVYA's America's Black President Timeline which is based on the POD that Nixon goes with Massachusetts Senator Edward Brooke as his replacement for Agnew.

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Edward Brooke TL continued.

37. Richard M. Nixon (R-NY): January 20th 1969-August 9th 1974*
38. Edward W. Brooke III (R-MA): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977*
39. Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA): January 20th 1977-September 1st 1983*
40. Dale Bumpers (D-AR): September 1st 1983-January 20th 1989*
41. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997*
42. Douglas Wilder (D-VA): January 20th 1997-October 25th 2002*
43. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): October 25th 2002-January 20th 2005*
44. John Engler (R-MI): January 20th 2005-???*

Notes;

37. Events the same as in DUBYWELUBYA's Timeline

38. Events the same as in DUBYWELUBYA'S Timeline

39. Has a much more successful presidency than OTL Carter’s, his long tenure as Senator from Washington gives him the advantage of getting a lot of his domestic agenda through Congress. A rather heavy handed yet successful extraction of the Hostages in Iran early in 1980 allows Scoop to rap up the nomination without any major challenges. With the rally around the flag effect outweighing the economy, Scoop is able to win a fairly comfortable win over Ronald Reagan in the General Election. President Jackson’s approval ratings drop during the midst of the 1982 Recession (Jackson still appoints Volcker to the FED, so it’s the same economic news). The 71 year old President would be found dead at his oval office desk from an aortic aneurism after giving a speech condemning the Soviet attack on Korean Air Lines Flight 007.

40. With his oratorical skills, personal charm and outsider image…the nation’s 40th President was able to portray himself as a smart capable leader in the weeks following President Jackson’s death. This and the fact that the economy had began to turn around ensured his landslide victory over the moderate ticket of George H.W. Bush and Paul Laxalt in the 1984 General Election. He would largely be remembered as the President whose discussions with Secretary Gorbachev ensured the end of the Soviet Union and the Cold War.

41. The First President to win the White House straight from the US House of Representatives since James Garfield in the 1880 Presidential Election. Running on a change platform and as an Economic Conservative and Social libertarian, Kemp won the election over the scandal ridden Vice President Gary Hart on comfortable margin. A quick and Successful end to the Persian Gulf War in 1991 and an Economic Recovery act in 1992 helped ensure his resounding victory over former Vice President Tsongas in the 1992 General Election. He would end his term an extremely popular President, as he left office in 1997 with a 65% approval rating.

42. Vice-President Pat Robertson on the other hand, was not so lucky…after barely surviving a strong Primary challenge by the moderate wing of the GOP in New Jersey Governor Tom Kean. Many moderates within the party, swamped to the charismatic yet populist campaign of Governor Douglas Wilder of Virginia. This would ensure an incredibly narrow victory over Robertson, and enable Wilder to become the first African American to be elected President of the United States. In office Wilder pursues a rather centrist policy working with the Republican Senate to get a majority of his agenda passed. Wilder would win a second term against the reform-minded Senator John McCain in the 2000 General Election. However, while on the campaign trail for the 2002 Congressional Election, The 71 year old President would be assassinated when a Van loaded with explosives crashed into a High School Gymnasium where President Wilder was holding a Town-Hall.

43. President Gore would be most memorable for successfully pursuing the War on Terror after the Al-Qaeda sponsored attack on the late President Wilder. However, his push for environmentalist reforms and serious Congressional deadlock would ensure to the confusing results of the 2004 Election. Although winning the Popular Vote, President Gore would loose the state of Ohio to Michigan Governor John Engler in the Electoral College, thus giving him the Presidency.

44. Although President Engler came into office without the popular support of the people, his economic revitalization plan for the Rust Belt secured him a victory over Illinois Senator Hillary Rodham in the 2008 General Election.

[Sewer]

35th:Richard Nixon 1961-1963
36th:Henry C. Lodge 1963-1969
37th:George McGovern 1969-1977
38th:Edmund Muskie 1977-1981
39th:George H. W. Bush 1981-1989
40th:Bob Dole 1989-1993
41th:Bill Clinton 1993-2001
42th:George W. Bush 2001-2009
43th:Barack Obama 2009-

[Sewer]

39th:Morris K. Udall 1977-1985
40th:Dale Bumpers 1985-1993
41th:Bob Dole 1993-2001
42th:Dick Gephardt 2001-2005
43th:John McCain 2005-2009
44th:John Edwards 2009-

[JerryBrown2010]

40:Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
41:Bob Dole 1989-1993
42:Bill Clinton 1993-2001
43:Albert Gore 2001-2009
44:Jeb Bush 2009 -

[12th Doctor]

40: Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
41: Alexander Haig 1989-1990
Nuclear Annihilation of Humanity August 21st 1990

[Lief 🗽]

40: Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
41: Alexander Haig 1989-1990
Nuclear Annihilation of Humanity August 21st 1990

Haha, yeah.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Grover Cleveland (1893-1897)
Todd Lincoln (1897-1905)
WH Taft  (1905-1909)
Charles Hughes (1909-1917)
Wilson (1917-1925)
HF Stone (1925-1929)
HC Hoover (1929-1933)

The rest follows history

With the exception of Taft, Hoover, and Cleveland, I would have voted for everyone of them

[hcallega]

Alexander Haig=Nuclear Destruction

Works everytime!

[Sewer]

35th:Estes Kefauver 1961-1963
36th:Pat Brown 1963-1969
37th:Richard Nixon 1969-1974
38th:Gerald Ford 1974-1977
39th:Jimmy Carter 1977-1981
40th:Robert Finch 1981-1989
41th:Bob Dole 1989-1993
42th:Jerry Brown 1993-2001
43th:John McCain  2001-2009
44th:John Edwards 2009-

[Sewer]

29th:Warren G. Harding 1921-1925
30th:William G. McAdoo 1925-1933
31th:Herbert Hoover 1933-1949
32th:Thomas E. Dewey 1949-1953
33th:Richard Russell 1953-1961
34th:Nelson Rockefeller 1961-1969
35th:Eugene McCarthy 1969-1977
36th:Jerry Brown 1977-1981
37th:Howard Baker 1981-1989
38th:George H. W. Bush 1989-1993
39th:Tom Harkin 1993-2001
40th:Al Gore 2001-2005
41th:John McCain 2005-2009
42th:Tom Vilsack 2009-

[Sewer]

37th:Richard Nixon 1969-1973
38th:George McGovern 1973-1977
39th:Ronald Reagan 1977-1981
40th:George McGovern 1981-1985
41th:Mike Gravel 1985-1993
42th:Chuck Grassley 1993-2001
43th:Dan Quayle  2001-2005
44th:Howard Dean 2005-2009
45th:Rudy Giuliani 2009-