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Question: How does Desantis do in the suburbs?
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« on: March 14, 2023, 03:39:44 PM »

I think this is the question of electability
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2023, 04:34:33 PM »

Slightly better than Trump, but not by much.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2023, 04:48:35 PM »

He does a point better
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2023, 04:56:46 PM »

It depends.

If he goes way too far to the right to try to pander to MAGA (his recent Ukraine statement was annoying if not disastrous) but if he continues on that path, not much better.

If he sheds the Trumpian association successfully and softens his image, he could potentially do a lot better than 2020 Trump.
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2023, 04:57:39 PM »

Trump 2020, the shifting demographics of the suburbs are negated by him being a better fit than Trump making it a wash.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2023, 05:15:16 PM »

It depends.

If he goes way too far to the right to try to pander to MAGA (his recent Ukraine statement was annoying if not disastrous) but if he continues on that path, not much better.

If he sheds the Trumpian association successfully and softens his image, he could potentially do a lot better than 2020 Trump.

My guess is if Desantis does become the nominee he will soften quite a bit. If your going to take on Trump in a primary, you need to through red meat at the base.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2023, 06:05:12 PM »

Around Trump 2020 but there will be some areas I can see him doing worse in like Atlanta, Twin Cities, Denver, and DC
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2023, 08:09:29 PM »

It depends.

If he goes way too far to the right to try to pander to MAGA (his recent Ukraine statement was annoying if not disastrous) but if he continues on that path, not much better.

If he sheds the Trumpian association successfully and softens his image, he could potentially do a lot better than 2020 Trump.

My guess is if Desantis does become the nominee he will soften quite a bit. If your going to take on Trump in a primary, you need to through red meat at the base.

The issue though is the Romney 2012 trap . Romney pandered to the tea party in order to win the nomination and went as fast as disowning his own healthcare plan and when he tried to moderate in the general , it made him seem like a dishonest flip flopper.

Now Biden is no where near as good of a campaigner as Obama so it may be easier for him to get away with it as well
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2023, 08:35:38 PM »

It depends.

If he goes way too far to the right to try to pander to MAGA (his recent Ukraine statement was annoying if not disastrous) but if he continues on that path, not much better.

If he sheds the Trumpian association successfully and softens his image, he could potentially do a lot better than 2020 Trump.

My guess is if Desantis does become the nominee he will soften quite a bit. If your going to take on Trump in a primary, you need to through red meat at the base.

The issue though is the Romney 2012 trap . Romney pandered to the tea party in order to win the nomination and went as fast as disowning his own healthcare plan and when he tried to moderate in the general , it made him seem like a dishonest flip flopper.

Now Biden is no where near as good of a campaigner as Obama so it may be easier for him to get away with it as well

LoL Biden beat Paul Ryan in the Debate it's still 65(60More D's we just got a 303 map in 2020 not a 331 map and we still have 20 mnths til wave insurance Obama was not at 50/49 in Rassy polls 20 mnths before Eday Gas prices, unemployment and no Covid Surge
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2023, 08:37:53 PM »

He collapses in the suburbs.

Does not quite hit Trump's numbers in the rurals, although he does get close.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2023, 09:03:03 PM »

It depends.

If he goes way too far to the right to try to pander to MAGA (his recent Ukraine statement was annoying if not disastrous) but if he continues on that path, not much better.

If he sheds the Trumpian association successfully and softens his image, he could potentially do a lot better than 2020 Trump.

My guess is if Desantis does become the nominee he will soften quite a bit. If your going to take on Trump in a primary, you need to through red meat at the base.

The issue though is the Romney 2012 trap . Romney pandered to the tea party in order to win the nomination and went as fast as disowning his own healthcare plan and when he tried to moderate in the general , it made him seem like a dishonest flip flopper.

Now Biden is no where near as good of a campaigner as Obama so it may be easier for him to get away with it as well

Yeah, this is what worries me.

I know that DeSantis technically didn't go full out "dump Ukraine" but he definitely aligned himself with the more dovish wing of the GOP on that issue. It was definitely a mistake and he'd have been much better off being vague or honestly spouting his original position.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2023, 09:18:21 PM »

Worse than Trump, just like Hillary was supposed to do better than Obama in the rurals...didn't work out then, won't work out now.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2023, 09:28:38 AM »

He collapses in the suburbs.

Does not quite hit Trump's numbers in the rurals, although he does get close.
How bad?
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2023, 01:03:34 PM »

This is the reason a lot of Republicans want DeSantis as Republican Nominee next year:


DeSantis is + 8 with Suburban Voters while that "ORANGE CLOWN" is at - 13.
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2023, 04:39:08 PM »

This is the reason a lot of Republicans want DeSantis as Republican Nominee next year:


DeSantis is + 8 with Suburban Voters while that "ORANGE CLOWN" is at - 13.
Does this hold up?
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2023, 11:20:28 PM »

This is the reason a lot of Republicans want DeSantis as Republican Nominee next year:

DeSantis is + 8 with Suburban Voters while that "ORANGE CLOWN" is at - 13.
That poll explains a lot.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2023, 04:07:26 AM »

Better than Trump 2020, worse than Trump 2016.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2023, 06:44:39 AM »

Better than Trump 2020, worse than Trump 2016.

LoL he is losing in a QU poll, yeah it's only 1 pt but it's early and Obama was trailing Romney 48/51 in 2912 at this pt in the campaign
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2023, 06:46:53 AM »

This is the reason a lot of Republicans want DeSantis as Republican Nominee next year:


DeSantis is + 8 with Suburban Voters while that "ORANGE CLOWN" is at - 13.
Does this hold up?


LoL this poll has little meaning DeSantis hasn't been scrutinize by Biden with ads, users take polls at face value 20 months before Eday what did 22 teach us that polls are faulty they had RS taking 24oH seats that's your polls


Obama was losing to Romney in April 2012
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2023, 10:24:30 AM »

Well, let's not pretend suburbs are monolith with universal swings back and forth. I think he'd do better than Trump in most areas, but no return to W-era levels or even Romney '12.
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2023, 05:03:32 PM »

Well, let's not pretend suburbs are monolith with universal swings back and forth. I think he'd do better than Trump in most areas, but no return to W-era levels or even Romney '12.

Thanks for pointing out that suburbs aren't a monolith. Gwinnett County, GA and OC, California might as well be in different countries.
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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2023, 03:05:06 AM »

Desantis would do much better than trump in the suburbs, It's nonsensical to say otherwise.
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2023, 03:08:08 AM »

Desantis would do much better than trump in the suburbs, It's nonsensical to say otherwise.

It's also nonsensical to be so presumptive about DeSantis doing "much better" 10 months before the Iowa Caucus and when he hasn't even officially entered the race
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2023, 03:50:27 AM »

He is only 3 pts ahead of Biden in FL, FL is definitely in play I don't know whom claim TX is more in play than FL because QU had Beto 15 pts behind Greg Abbott
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2023, 09:00:28 PM »

He is only 3 pts ahead of Biden in FL, FL is definitely in play I don't know whom claim TX is more in play than FL because QU had Beto 15 pts behind Greg Abbott
Joe Biden is DOA in the state of Florida, especially if DeSantis is on the ballot. R+11-13.
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