Has there ever been malapportionment in FAVOR of big cities?
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TheElectoralBoobyPrize
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« on: March 06, 2023, 12:33:00 PM »
« edited: March 06, 2023, 12:55:18 PM by TheElectoralBoobyPrize »

It seems malapportionment is always about giving extra representation to geographically large areas with relatively small populations, while "one person, one vote" is about ignoring such disinctions.

But theoretically, couldn't you actually give more representation to major cities than even their population numbers would warrant? Has this ever been done in the U.S. or elsewhere?

NOT that I favor this...I'm just curious.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2023, 02:11:50 PM »

It happens marginally in Canada, because the East constitutionally cannot lose seats, the West can only gain them as it grows.  This is part of the reason Trudeau keeps winning without the PV.

In general, cities were much smaller everywhere pre-1900, and people were more evenly distributed across the land.  Malapportionment often was the natural result of industrialization. 
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2023, 02:14:25 PM »

By a strict meaning of one person one vote, cities have an advantage due to more immigrants and younger people.
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2023, 02:51:54 PM »

By a strict meaning of one person one vote, cities have an advantage due to more immigrants and younger people.

Yes, so mildly true in the US House and state legislatures post-Wesberry v. Sanders and Reynolds v. Sims.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2023, 02:58:53 PM »

I believe the New York State Assembly was malapportioned in favor of solidly Dem NYC.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2023, 04:51:38 PM »

Illinois current congressional map.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2023, 07:33:54 PM »

Also, I'm not sure it's true malapportionment, but it's clear at this point that the 2020 census was inaccurate enough to put multiple congressional districts in the "wrong" states for the decade.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2023, 09:10:20 PM »

The equal representation each state has in the Senate sometimes favors big cities.  States like NV, RI and CT are overpowered in the Senate while having very urban populations. 

Las Vegas is probably the best example of a city/metro where this happens.  The city is big enough to dominate the whole state, but the state itself is small enough that it's 2 senators give Nevadans over-representation in Congress.
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2023, 01:27:11 AM »

I believe the New York State Assembly was malapportioned in favor of solidly Dem NYC.

Yes, until recently the Assembly was malapportioned in favor of NYC and the Senate was malapportioend against it, which is just the sort of "compromise" one would expect from this state's political culture.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2023, 01:33:38 AM »

I believe the New York State Assembly was malapportioned in favor of solidly Dem NYC.

Yes, until recently the Assembly was malapportioned in favor of NYC and the Senate was malapportioend against it, which is just the sort of "compromise" one would expect from this state's political culture.
Did NYC lose any Assembly representation in the most recent redistricting?
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2023, 01:38:56 AM »

They were all equal population, but the California State Senate used to be drawn so that there would usually be 2 State Senators from San Francisco. Here's a map.

https://archive.calvoter.org/voter/maps/2001/statewide/senate.pdf
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