PPP: Biden +4 v. Trump, +3 v. DeSantis

[wbrocks67]

Biden 47%
DeSantis 44%

Biden 49%
Trump 45%

Biden 45%
Haley 39%

Biden 46%
Pence 38%

DeSantis fav: 38/47 (-9)
Haley fav: 29/37 (-8)
Pence fav: 28/52 (-24)
Trump fav: 36/56 (-20)

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/NationalResults21423.pdf

[Epaminondas]

No Biden faves to compare?

That the number for Biden drops when confronted with Haley is really odd. The NeverTrump, NeverMeatball demographic?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

If RS can't lead in a PPP poll it's OVER

[Vosem]

If RS can't lead in a PPP poll it's OVER

PPP is generally Democratic-affiliated. (They were the Trafalgar of their day: after two very strong cycles in 2010/2012, they were seen as the gold standard in 2014, and then did completely horribly when the Republicans outperformed the polling average).

Given that context, I sort of think this poll is OK for Republicans. (As befits a pollster with a Democratic house effect, I believe PPP had a strong 2022. I’d throw this one in the average.)

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

It comes after Docugate, voters aren't gonna throw out Biden in fav of Trump whom is leading the primary and Trump was exyonerated by an all white Grand jury in GA that was a slave and segregated state all the other cases will he tried in DC and I seriously doubt they are gonna exhinerate Trump the biggest unindicted Felony out there he has 2 more pending indictment in DC Insurrection and the Docugate

There is no campaign going on but whom got PA, NV, AZ, and GA right Marist not Trafalgar, that tells you right there we only need 303 but we are trying to break the Filibuster and we need OH, AZ, MT, MO in S we don't have the 22 S map 303 but Brown and Tester have survived since 2006 and Kunce can mount an upset he is male not female like McCaskill or Valentine, Nixon and Kander and Mel Carnahan were elected in MIZZ

[pbrower2a]

President Biden must campaign to get re-elected, but even an average campaign is good to get a vote-share up an average of 6.5%. In President Biden's case app of those put him at or even above 51% and re-election. If I am to predict the result of 2024 it  will be an electoral map similar to that of 2020 even without demographic change from 2020. 

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The GA indictments are coming even if Trump doesn't get indicted himself he says blk votes are illegitimate because they put Biden ahead but Bush W was legit because whites put him ahead even Feminist and male counter parts that are white find offense to that

[pbrower2a]

The GA indictments are coming even if Trump doesn't get indicted himself he says blk votes are illegitimate because they put Biden ahead but Bush W was legit because whites put him ahead even Feminist and male counter parts that are white find offense to that

Add to this the potential for an extremist-rich GOP having nominees who trip themselves up with offensive pronouncements on such topics as rape. Contentions of a stolen election will be stale and irrelevant in 2024. Democrats made the personality and conduct of Donald Trump the issue in 2020 and won.