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« on: February 12, 2023, 03:34:01 PM »
Massachusetts presidential candidates haven't won the presidency since John F. Kennedy in 1960. Sadly, Kennedy was killed and candidates from MA have not fared well (his brothers Robert Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, Michael Dukakis, John Kerry, Mitt Romney, Elizabeth Warren, Deval Patrick)

There's probably a reason why former Labor Secretary Marty Walsh will probably never be president...

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2023, 03:41:51 PM »
Quote from: Suburbia on February 12, 2023, 03:34:01 PM
Massachusetts presidential candidates haven't won the presidency since John F. Kennedy in 1960. Sadly, Kennedy was killed and candidates from MA have not fared well (his brothers Robert Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, Michael Dukakis, John Kerry, Mitt Romney, Elizabeth Warren, Deval Patrick)

There's probably a reason why former Labor Secretary Marty Walsh will probably never be president...

When will the curse end?
Hopefully never!
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2023, 11:24:41 PM »
Massachusetts is declining as a fraction of the American population, so not all that soon. It remains disproportionately politically important, though -- my observation in 2020 was that, since the start of the primary era, the most common state of origin for Republican presidential candidates has been Texas, but for Democrats has been Massachusetts, even though it is much smaller.

Seems vaguely like we're moving towards something like Florida vs. California, but on the GOP side Florida had not produced a serious presidential candidate before 2016, and California hasn't produced one on the Democratic side in my lifetime (the last one was Jerry Brown in 1992).
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2023, 04:44:02 PM »
Never, in fact even Kennedy probably had to cheat in 1960 to win (lots of talk about Chicago rigged ballots back then).

New England is extreme in it's own way, with a population too small to matter usually in presidential of house matters, in the senate it's a different thing.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2023, 06:23:10 PM »
Quote from: oldtimer on February 16, 2023, 04:44:02 PM
Never, in fact even Kennedy probably had to cheat in 1960 to win (lots of talk about Chicago rigged ballots back then).

New England is extreme in it's own way, with a population too small to matter usually in presidential of house matters, in the senate it's a different thing.

Kennedy could have won without Illinois if he held every other state he did. Obviously it helped though in such a close election.
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