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King of Kensington
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« on: February 06, 2023, 11:10:03 PM »
« edited: February 07, 2023, 07:21:25 AM by King of Kensington »

Per capita income and 2020 vote.

New York area:

Scarsdale NY  $155,177  79-20 D
Darien CT $139,079  61-38 D
Rye NY  $129,955  68-31 D
Pound Ridge NY  $126,323  70-29 D
Westport CT  $122,799  75-24 D
Rumson NJ  $121,311  51-47 R
Millburn NJ  $120,636   73-25 D
New Canaan CT  $119,935  59-41 D
Bronxville NY  $119,032  70-30 D
Greenwich CT  $114,029  62-36 D
New Castle NY  $104,844  78-20 D
Upper Saddle River NJ  $102,675  49-49 D
Bernardsville NJ  $100,291  54-44 D
Franklin Lakes NJ  $96,187  58-41 R
Summit NJ  $93,807  67-30 D

* Long Island is harder to do because of very large towns.  North Hempstead, the wealthiest town, went 57-42 D.

Los Angeles area:

Malibu CA  $120,395  66-32 D
Palos Verdes Estates CA  $108,685  55-43 D
Newport Beach CA  $105,002  53-43 R
Laguna Beach CA  $101,782  62-34 D
Manhattan Beach CA  $99,805  66-31 D
Hermosa Beach CA  $98,237  69-28 D
Beverly Hills CA  $90,706  55-44 D

Chicago area:

Winnetka IL  $143,109  68-30 D
Glencoe IL  $128,770  79-19 D
Kenilworth IL  $104,301  60-36 D
Lake Forest IL  $99,558  52-47 D
Wilmette IL  $97,355  75-24 D
Highland Park IL  $93,309  80-19 D
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2023, 03:51:01 PM »

Democrats are the party of rich brunchlovin' whites.  Well known American fact. 
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2023, 11:49:30 PM »

The gap between Biden and the other democrats in these places can be really staggering. This seems to be the one place where split ticket voting is increasing rather than decreasing l
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2023, 11:51:05 PM »

Democrats are the party of rich brunchlovin' whites.  Well known American fact. 

Well not in Texas or much of the South Tongue.
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2023, 01:21:34 AM »

Trying to find data for Highland Park, Texas.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2023, 02:55:24 PM »

The gap between Biden and the other democrats in these places can be really staggering. This seems to be the one place where split ticket voting is increasing rather than decreasing l

Typically presidential vote is a lagging indicator. Southeastern Connecticut saw massive Democratic swings in the 2022 gubernatorial election. DuPage County voted for a Democratic presidential candidate for the first time in 2008 and took ten years to become consistently Democratic for all statewide offices. I'm not sure that whatever increase we might see in split-ticket voting is lasting.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2023, 02:04:29 PM »

The gap between Biden and the other democrats in these places can be really staggering. This seems to be the one place where split ticket voting is increasing rather than decreasing l

Typically presidential vote is a lagging indicator. Southeastern Connecticut saw massive Democratic swings in the 2022 gubernatorial election. DuPage County voted for a Democratic presidential candidate for the first time in 2008 and took ten years to become consistently Democratic for all statewide offices. I'm not sure that whatever increase we might see in split-ticket voting is lasting.

Here in NJ, pre-Trump Republicans held every countywide office in Somerset and while Obama won it twice, Menendez 2012 was the only Dem to ever win it for Senate or Governor. It hasn’t voted for any Republicans since two Commissioners in 2017 narrowly survived.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2023, 03:22:04 PM »

Well it makes sense that Connecticut, New Jersey and Illinois state level Republican parties would know how to win in their states than the national GOP...their very survival depends on it!
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2023, 05:35:16 PM »

Yarrow Point, WA, $142,293, 71-26 D
Hunts Point, WA, $131,270, 59-32 D
Medina, WA, $97,791, 66-32 D
Clyde Hill, WA, $92,056, 64-33 D
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2023, 06:13:36 PM »

Excellent.  Do you have Mercer Island also?
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2023, 06:16:13 PM »

Yarrow Point, WA, $142,293, 71-26 D
Hunts Point, WA, $131,270, 59-32 D
Medina, WA, $97,791, 66-32 D
Clyde Hill, WA, $92,056, 64-33 D

Excellent.  Do you have Mercer Island also?

$98,139, 76-22 D

I knew Mercer Island was rich, but I'm really surprised per capita income there is higher than Medina.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2023, 06:57:12 PM »

Easier to obtain results in older eastern cities; in the South and West a lot of unincorporated places.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2023, 07:12:06 PM »

Boston area:

Dover MA  $133,500  69-28 D
Hingham MA  $111,559  67-31 D
Weston MA  $107,793  72-24 D
Wellesley MA  $97,262  77-20 D
Lexington MA  $96,170 81-17 D
Lincoln MA  $92,567  82-16 D
Carlisle MA  $91,493  76-21 D
Winchester MA  $90,356  71-27 D
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2023, 11:08:09 PM »

Trying to find data for Highland Park, Texas.

DRA2020 should have it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2023, 11:13:17 PM »
« Edited: March 01, 2023, 11:26:30 PM by Roll Roons »

Trying to find data for Highland Park, Texas.

University Park (right next door and also extremely affluent) was 63-36 Trump. However, it was 81-18 Romney. I would think Highland Park's numbers are fairly similar, although possibly a touch more Republican because it doesn't have a university.

Biden probably did better in University Park, and Highland Park for that matter, than any Democrat since FDR.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2023, 12:01:05 AM »

How about the Hamptons?

I remember someone else on here pointed out that even though places like Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard have reputations for being very wealthy, it's more because of people who have second homes as opposed to the actual full-time residents. I wonder if the same is true of the Hamptons.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2023, 12:58:43 AM »

LI is tricky because it contains a lot of tiny villages and huge towns.  Garden City is fairly wealthy, very Catholic and still Republican.  There's also some pretty affluent Orthodox areas in the Five Towns. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2023, 02:20:45 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2023, 02:23:51 PM by Tintrlvr »

How about the Hamptons?

I remember someone else on here pointed out that even though places like Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard have reputations for being very wealthy, it's more because of people who have second homes as opposed to the actual full-time residents. I wonder if the same is true of the Hamptons.

East Hampton town, New York: $78,482 per capita income
Southampton town, New York: $66,627 per capita income (note about half of Southampton town is west of the Shinnecock Canal and thus not in "The Hamptons" proper)

So, yes, seems like the same pattern holds up. I thought it might be higher due to more people claiming residency in the Hamptons to avoid New York City income taxes, but apparently not.
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2023, 03:30:32 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2023, 03:35:29 PM by King of Kensington »

Detroit area:

Bloomfield Hills MI  $112,977  50-49 D
Birmingham MI  $95,220  59-40 D
Grosse Pointe Shores MI  $93,616  65-34 R
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2023, 11:05:51 AM »

Democrats are the party of rich brunchlovin' whites.  Well known American fact. 

Not sure if this post is tongue-in-cheek but this really wasn't the case until the last two elections. 
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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2023, 01:56:12 PM »

Big surprise: The suburbs of the bluest cities of this country voted overwhelmingly democrat, more news at 8
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« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2023, 08:41:13 AM »

Democrats are now the Party of educated professionals who have never shown support for demagogues of any kind. Educated professionals have conservative values, but Democrats are co-opting those values.

The Marxist assumption that well-off people fall for any reactionary alternative to liberal-to-socialist parties and personalities no longer holds true. Demagogues of the Left put educated professionals off out of dread for confiscatory taxation, but demagogues of the Right offer recklessness in foreign policy that could result in devastation of their assets (as fascism did). They prefer peace to super-cheap labor or captive markets; they know the limits.
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« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2023, 01:19:09 PM »

How about the Hamptons?

I remember someone else on here pointed out that even though places like Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard have reputations for being very wealthy, it's more because of people who have second homes as opposed to the actual full-time residents. I wonder if the same is true of the Hamptons.

To a way lesser degree, this is also true of Door County, WI.  A lot of the nicer homes are vacation homes, and the county itself appears much nicer than statistics would imply.
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« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2023, 01:46:44 PM »

Both party's voter bases have flipped over the last 20-30 years. The Democrats are now the party of the wealthy and educated professionals and the Republicans are now the party of the working class and uneducated. Trump accelerated these trends.
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« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2023, 02:38:36 PM »

Both party's voter bases have flipped over the last 20-30 years. The Democrats are now the party of the wealthy and educated professionals and the Republicans are now the party of the working class and uneducated. Trump accelerated these trends.

This is just such a simplistic take.  Like, this site is devoted to actual analysis!  The following are all true:

(1) Wealthy counties tend to vote Democratic.
(2) Wealthy precincts in coastal areas tend to vote Democratic
(3) Wealthy exurban precincts and counties still tend to vote very Republican across the nation.
(4) The absolute wealthiest Americans tend to vote Republican, as 17 of the 25 billionaire political contributors in 2020 were to Trump.
(5) In every exit poll from the 2016 election to the 2022 midterms, there has been a direct correlation with a higher income and a higher vote share for Republicans.

There are a lot of factors involved that can make these things all true at once, and you cannot make blanket statements like yours, as they are not supported by the evidence.  "The wealthy" are a relatively huge group and are politically diverse.  Geographic factors, race, gender, education, industry and a host of other issues are going to be a way better predictor of how they vote than their wealth.  Period.
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