Beasley's performance was shockingly good despite Dem turnout in NC
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« on: January 25, 2023, 11:33:06 AM »

As voter files continue to roll in, the fact that Beasley only lost by 3% in NC despite all of this is pretty incredible:

Voter turnout by race:
Whites: 58%
Blacks: 42%
Asians: 39%
Indians: 37%
Hispanics: 26%

Voter turnout by age:
18-25: 24%
26-40: 34%
41-65: 59%
66+: 71%

Voter turnout by registered party:
Republicans: 59%
Democrats: 51%
Unaffiliated: 44%

https://www.ncsbe.gov/results-data/voter-turnout/2022-general-election-turnout
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 11:56:45 AM »

Oddly enough she got essentially same percentage of the vote (47.27%) that Kay Hagan got in her re-election run in 2014 (47.26%)
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 01:05:17 PM »

Oddly enough she got essentially same percentage of the vote (47.27%) that Kay Hagan got in her re-election run in 2014 (47.26%)

Well that’s heartbreaking
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 06:23:17 PM »

Cannot be understated how disastrous 2022 would have been for Democrats if not for their insane overperformance with independents & moderates.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 06:51:19 PM »

Cannot be understated how disastrous 2022 would have been for Democrats if not for their insane overperformance with independents & moderates.

I don’t understand you statement? I read it as;

“2022 would have been disastrous for democrats if they lost more votes”
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2023, 01:42:57 AM »

Cannot be understated how disastrous 2022 would have been for Democrats if not for their insane overperformance with independents & moderates.

I don’t understand you statement? I read it as;

“2022 would have been disastrous for democrats if they lost more votes”


Republicans had a significant turnout advantage compared to Democrats. 2022 was only a neutral cycle because Democrats did significantly better with independents than the President's party usually does in midterms.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2023, 02:09:40 AM »

Cannot be understated how disastrous 2022 would have been for Democrats if not for their insane overperformance with independents & moderates.

I don’t understand you statement? I read it as;

“2022 would have been disastrous for democrats if they lost more votes”


Republicans had a significant turnout advantage compared to Democrats. 2022 was only a neutral cycle because Democrats did significantly better with independents than the President's party usually does in midterms.

Ah that makes more sense. Republicans have gone all in on their base.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2023, 11:12:09 AM »

It sounded like Beasley was interested in AG for 2024, and with prez turnout and Biden/Stein on the ticket, I think she definitely should.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2023, 12:23:22 AM »

Had Dems more seriously invested here and had a serious turnout effort with black voters, Beasley may have been able to squeak out a win.

The very good news for Ds is metro Raleigh still swung left despite Budd being one of the more "normal" Rs, which suggests the leftwards shifts there are very reliable.
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2023, 12:51:54 AM »

Had Dems more seriously invested here and had a serious turnout effort with black voters, Beasley may have been able to squeak out a win.

The very good news for Ds is metro Raleigh still swung left despite Budd being one of the more "normal" Rs, which suggests the leftwards shifts there are very reliable.

Beasley lost she was to the left of the state had Jeff Jackson won the nomination he could of won you see Josh Stein is tied
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2023, 12:56:45 AM »

Had Dems more seriously invested here and had a serious turnout effort with black voters, Beasley may have been able to squeak out a win.

The very good news for Ds is metro Raleigh still swung left despite Budd being one of the more "normal" Rs, which suggests the leftwards shifts there are very reliable.

Most suburbanites seem to have come to the conclusion there are no “normal” republicans. And republicans seem in to hurry to convince them otherwise. Wake county is 53% college educated compared to 30% statewide.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2023, 01:17:59 AM »

Had Dems more seriously invested here and had a serious turnout effort with black voters, Beasley may have been able to squeak out a win.

The very good news for Ds is metro Raleigh still swung left despite Budd being one of the more "normal" Rs, which suggests the leftwards shifts there are very reliable.

Most suburbanites seem to have come to the conclusion there are no “normal” republicans. And republicans seem in to hurry to convince them otherwise. Wake county is 53% college educated compared to 30% statewide.

Mhm, and that’s been increasing as Raleigh’s influence has dominated the County more and more.

The main issue for Dems is Wake County is only like 1/10th of the state.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2023, 01:24:43 AM »

Had Dems more seriously invested here and had a serious turnout effort with black voters, Beasley may have been able to squeak out a win.

The very good news for Ds is metro Raleigh still swung left despite Budd being one of the more "normal" Rs, which suggests the leftwards shifts there are very reliable.

Most suburbanites seem to have come to the conclusion there are no “normal” republicans. And republicans seem in to hurry to convince them otherwise. Wake county is 53% college educated compared to 30% statewide.

Mhm, and that’s been increasing as Raleigh’s influence has dominated the County more and more.

The main issue for Dems is Wake County is only like 1/10th of the state.

Josh Stein is doing just fine he is tied in every poll because he is a centrist , RS expected to easily win NC and MS Gov but Brad Presley is only down 4 we may lose KY and LA but keep NC and win MS, Beshear has so sort of scandal
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2023, 01:32:43 AM »

Had Dems more seriously invested here and had a serious turnout effort with black voters, Beasley may have been able to squeak out a win.

The very good news for Ds is metro Raleigh still swung left despite Budd being one of the more "normal" Rs, which suggests the leftwards shifts there are very reliable.

Most suburbanites seem to have come to the conclusion there are no “normal” republicans. And republicans seem in to hurry to convince them otherwise. Wake county is 53% college educated compared to 30% statewide.

Mhm, and that’s been increasing as Raleigh’s influence has dominated the County more and more.

The main issue for Dems is Wake County is only like 1/10th of the state.

North Carolina is weird in that it has a lot of room for growth all over the state, it’s not concentrated like Georgia. Greensboro, Wilmington, Asheville, are all growing.
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2023, 11:32:24 AM »

Had Dems more seriously invested here and had a serious turnout effort with black voters, Beasley may have been able to squeak out a win.

The very good news for Ds is metro Raleigh still swung left despite Budd being one of the more "normal" Rs, which suggests the leftwards shifts there are very reliable.

Most suburbanites seem to have come to the conclusion there are no “normal” republicans. And republicans seem in to hurry to convince them otherwise. Wake county is 53% college educated compared to 30% statewide.

Yep, Fetterman's performance in the Philly suburbs basically solidified this.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2023, 12:39:28 PM »
« Edited: January 29, 2023, 01:39:39 PM by Dr Oz Lost Party! »

I saw someone say that if this election matched 2020 turnout, she would've won by a couple hundred votes. Pain.

She was such an underrated candidate and I hope she gives it another go in the future... Maybe she could carpetbag to Georgia and run for governor? She'd be a great fit for the state... I'm only (half) kidding.
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2023, 12:43:55 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2023, 12:51:05 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

You have to look at the electorate you can't compare all races all the time with different yrs why is Beshear winning by 9 and Ryan in OH lost by 6 and why did Strickland get crushed by 20 and Brown won by 6 because near Prez yrs the turnout is younger in midterms it's older, and no questions asked DeWine winning by 25 helped Vance when DeWine was only ahead by 5 Vance was losing Ryan was up the same amount as Beshear

That's why Brown and Stein and Beshear are favs and Ryan lost its the same in FL Rick Scott is fav only slightly over Rod Joseph or Matt Boswell if Eday was held today he would win by 6 but Rubio won by 17 it's an upset but Rod Joseph is a Vet, states vote their partisanship but not all the time

Just like there is no 2016 user around because his candidate Cameron is losing by 10 to Beshear

Obviously, Docugate isn't giving RS a boost because the neglect Afro American votes we are part of the 50M in Poverty due to lack of reparations
KY HAS 11 PERCENT AFRO AMERICAN
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2023, 01:52:34 PM »

I posted about this in another thread but I calculated that Budd would have received about 53% of the vote if he kept Trump’s exact margins by education and race. Dems made huge gains there to keep it that close.
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