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« on: January 24, 2023, 11:22:18 AM »

Has the hype for Ron DeSantis faded?
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2023, 12:08:54 PM »

It's not a hype at all.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2023, 10:24:10 PM »

No. He's probably at his peak right now. But it's all downhill from here.
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 01:06:47 AM »

Let's check back when the primaries actually start.
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 01:56:06 AM »

It's 21 months to the election, nobody has risen or fallen yet.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 09:04:58 AM »

We don't know enough yet.  Right now, House Republicans are reminding a lot of right-leaning people why they liked Trump.  Who knows what the issue/contrast will be a year from now.
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 09:16:46 AM »

He was never hyped he won in FL and Abbott won in TX they didn't win in California, and Crist and Gillum couldn't beat him he was always the underdog in a Natl Eday what has he done like Bush W for working people aside from 911, Ian and Surfside oh tax cuts for the rich
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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2023, 10:42:55 AM »

Way too early, he hasn't even declared, lol.
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2023, 11:18:21 AM »

Once he hits the national stage I think he fades quickly. The man is a lunatic and makes Trump's policies look sane.
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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2023, 11:24:18 AM »

Once he hits the national stage I think he fades quickly. The man is a lunatic and makes Trump's policies look sane.
How well FL translates nationally, we're yet to see. We're about a year out from primary season, so anything can happen.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2023, 02:01:03 PM »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.
I think he may find a way to wimp out and not run. I still think he fears getting beat by Trump and what they may do to his 28 chances. Trump emasculating DeSantis would finish him politically.
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2023, 02:01:50 PM »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.

He's the sitting governor of the third most populous state and won reelection in a landslide. Whatever your personal opinion of him is, he is absolutely a serious candidate.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2023, 02:03:15 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2023, 02:07:34 PM by SN2903 »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.

He's the sitting governor of the third most populous state and won reelection in a landslide. Whatever your personal opinion of him is, he is absolutely a serious candidate.
  The left wants DeSantis because they can paint him as a radical on COVID and other things. YT is right most of the country doesn't know him yet. Trump is a known quantity. People know he will be good on the economy whatever they think of him personally and that's his advantage with the coming recession.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2023, 02:08:34 PM »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.

He's the sitting governor of the third most populous state and won reelection in a landslide. Whatever your personal opinion of him is, he is absolutely a serious candidate.
  The left wants DeSantis because they can paint him as a radical on COVID and other things. YT is right most of the country doesn't know him yet. Trump is a known quantity. People know he will be good on the economy whatever they think of him personally and that's his advantage with the coming recession.

You think DeSantis views on some culture war issues will be viewed as more out of the mainstream than Jan 6th/Election denialism.


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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2023, 02:11:34 PM »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.

He's the sitting governor of the third most populous state and won reelection in a landslide. Whatever your personal opinion of him is, he is absolutely a serious candidate.
 The left wants DeSantis because they can paint him as a radical on COVID and other things. YT is right most of the country doesn't know him yet. Trump is a known quantity. People know he will be good on the economy whatever they think of him personally and that's his advantage with the coming recession.

You think DeSantis views on some culture war issues will be viewed as more out of the mainstream than Jan 6th/Election denialism.



No one cares about Jan 6th besides MSNBC viewers. Abortion and McConnell bailing on GOP candidates is mostly what happened in the midterms. Dobbs impact was greater than people thought it would be.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2023, 02:25:23 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2023, 03:57:05 PM by THG »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.

He's the sitting governor of the third most populous state and won reelection in a landslide. Whatever your personal opinion of him is, he is absolutely a serious candidate.
The left wants DeSantis because they can paint him as a radical on COVID and other things. YT is right most of the country doesn't know him yet. Trump is a known quantity. People know he will be good on the economy whatever they think of him personally and that's his advantage with the coming recession.

You think DeSantis views on some culture war issues will be viewed as more out of the mainstream than Jan 6th/Election denialism.



No one cares about Jan 6th besides MSNBC viewers. Abortion and McConnell bailing on GOP candidates is mostly what happened in the midterms. Dobbs impact was greater than people thought it would be.

You know, I used to think that no one cared about J6 that much either. Voters probably aren't voting Democratic based on it, but if you run candidates directly associated with election denialism or J6 (Lake, Kari.... Kent, Joe.... Majewski, J.R..... Mastriano, Doug), it will undeniably hurt them deeply. Republicans who did not fully indulge into the election fraud narrative didn’t pay the penalty that those who did indulged into it had to, to nobody’s surprise.

Dobbs was a factor- but if it was the main factor, Republicans would not have overperformed in California and Brian Kemp, Joe Lombardo, or Lee Zeldin (to name a few) would not have overperformed.

The main factor was horrendous GOP candidates who espoused unpopular policies or stances and Trump being directly involved. And that's the simple reality of the situation.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2023, 02:27:44 PM »

It's January 2023. It is not possible for anyone's "hype" to have faded before the primaries even begin in earnest.
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2023, 12:29:01 AM »

Once he hits the national stage I think he fades quickly. The man is a lunatic and makes Trump's policies look sane.

But rhetoric is key. Donald Trump is visibly and obviously an insane egomaniac. DeSantis does a much better job on that front. After all, FL may well be trending rightward, but you don't win nearly 60% in FL by outwardly being an extremist lunatic.
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2023, 03:30:53 AM »

Nah, people have just been focused on other stuff.

DeSantis is very very good at finding anti-woke pathways to owning the libs and that's gonna win him the nomination, I believe. Trump is not owning the libs hard enough with his mindless "truthing".
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2023, 05:43:37 AM »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.
I think he may find a way to wimp out and not run. I still think he fears getting beat by Trump and what they may do to his 28 chances. Trump emasculating DeSantis would finish him politically.

This makes no sense, nothing would make him look weaker and more emasculated than not running.
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2023, 07:34:18 AM »

DeSantis is the "If I Were a Rich Man" from Fiddler on the Roof--and the blue avatars on this forum and other Republicans I know are Tevya singing this song.  That is, DeSantis is a fantasy.  Unfortunately, there remains this big and ugly reality that is Trump.
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« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2023, 08:48:14 AM »

It's only January! And why everyone is discussing DeSantis, that's good enough for him. He's not making any moves until after the legislative session concludes it's business in May or June and btw, there's no conceivable incentive for him to show his hand yet! However, that being said, he's likely fanning the speculation game, and is probably engaged in a covert fundraising effort & is employing a stealth type of recruitment effort. DeSantis is wisely allowing Trump to fizzle out! He'll wait to see who announces for the nomination before he does anything. Realistically speaking DeSantis can organize, recruit and fundraise, but still not officially announce, until it suits him. DeSantis is keeping his head while everyone else loses there's.
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2023, 02:14:37 PM »

Fellas, the primaries are still a year away.

The hype has faded as far as Talkelections and ET go, because he was being over-hyped in November. So in some sense, it's faded, but only because it was massively overstated after the midterms. As a national figure, he's maintained a consistently high profile among likely voters, and all signs point to him declaring his candidacy.
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2023, 07:50:45 PM »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.

He's the sitting governor of the third most populous state and won reelection in a landslide. Whatever your personal opinion of him is, he is absolutely a serious candidate.
 The left wants DeSantis because they can paint him as a radical on COVID and other things. YT is right most of the country doesn't know him yet. Trump is a known quantity. People know he will be good on the economy whatever they think of him personally and that's his advantage with the coming recession.
You think DeSantis views on some culture war issues will be viewed as more out of the mainstream than Jan 6th/Election denialism.
No one cares about Jan 6th besides MSNBC viewers. Abortion and McConnell bailing on GOP candidates is mostly what happened in the midterms. Dobbs impact was greater than people thought it would be.

Go ahead, keep running on election denialism. See where it gets you.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2023, 08:47:02 PM »

He’s an unserious candidate. 66% of this country has not heard the man speak, once they do he will fade out.

He's the sitting governor of the third most populous state and won reelection in a landslide. Whatever your personal opinion of him is, he is absolutely a serious candidate.
 The left wants DeSantis because they can paint him as a radical on COVID and other things. YT is right most of the country doesn't know him yet. Trump is a known quantity. People know he will be good on the economy whatever they think of him personally and that's his advantage with the coming recession.
You think DeSantis views on some culture war issues will be viewed as more out of the mainstream than Jan 6th/Election denialism.
No one cares about Jan 6th besides MSNBC viewers. Abortion and McConnell bailing on GOP candidates is mostly what happened in the midterms. Dobbs impact was greater than people thought it would be.

Go ahead, keep running on election denialism. See where it gets you.
So called “election denialism” isn’t the reason why candidates lost. PA and WI have similar partisan leans and the outcomes were 6 points apart, yet Oz claimed Biden won legitimately, while Johnson is one of the biggest supporters of Jan 6. Incumbency isn’t worth 6 points, and Fetterman was no better a candidate than Barnes.

The unpleasant truth for republicans is they have not learned how to vote by mail, and their leaders reject the premise. I don’t like the concept of mail voting but it’s not going away. Need to embrace it.
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