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« on: January 23, 2023, 09:47:55 PM »

I think the only way America can heal racially is if the United States government gives descendants of Foundational Black Americans slavery reparations to those who's ancestors were enslaved from 1619 to 1865.

It would end this constant and tiring debate on race, let the chips fall where they may on Black investment and growth and start the process of an option of Black Americans deciding whether to go separate ways and moving on.

The more this reparations debate goes on, the more racial divisions will fester. Acknowledge wrongdoing was done, give Black Americans the option of separation, and move on and we won't have to hear the word racism again.

Really simple. The government should have done this since 1865.
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2023, 09:52:32 PM »

Is this… sorta based Bronz
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2023, 09:52:38 PM »

Now THIS is a bronz threaf!
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2023, 12:56:58 AM »

Do you honestly believe that reparations would cool race relations?
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2023, 01:24:24 AM »

I think the only way America can heal racially is if the United States government gives descendants of Foundational Black Americans slavery reparations to those who's ancestors were enslaved from 1619 to 1865.

It would end this constant and tiring debate on race, let the chips fall where they may on Black investment and growth and start the process of an option of Black Americans deciding whether to go separate ways and moving on.

The more this reparations debate goes on, the more racial divisions will fester. Acknowledge wrongdoing was done, give Black Americans the option of separation, and move on and we won't have to hear the word racism again.

Really simple. The government should have done this since 1865.
What do you mean by that?
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2023, 03:39:56 AM »

Suggesting that America should "part ways" with African Americans or "let them separate" is absolutely insane. I can't speak for them, but I've seen ZERO indication ANYWHERE that this is what African Americans would want. It's a Bronz thread though, so I'm wasting my breath.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2023, 03:42:25 AM »

give Black Americans the option of separation, and move on and we won't have to hear the word racism again.

There is a zero chance that you're this unbearably naive. The mask is slipping.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2023, 05:06:18 AM »

I think the only way America can heal racially is if the United States government gives descendants of Foundational Black Americans slavery reparations to those who's ancestors were enslaved from 1619 to 1865.

It would end this constant and tiring debate on race, let the chips fall where they may on Black investment and growth and start the process of an option of Black Americans deciding whether to go separate ways and moving on.

The more this reparations debate goes on, the more racial divisions will fester. Acknowledge wrongdoing was done, give Black Americans the option of separation, and move on and we won't have to hear the word racism again.

Really simple. The government should have done this since 1865.
What do you mean by that?

Bit obvious, innit?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society

Bronz' whole shtick on this front is using racial activist language to argue for segregation. Has been for some time.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2023, 05:52:17 AM »

With an RH there is never gonna be reparations a Natl one and in CA the millionaire pay higher taxes than other states in Beverly hills that's why CA is the only state to give reparations but you can't carpetbagger there

The D's had a golden opportunity in 24 but Biden had this silly Documents he kept secret for 7 yrs
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2023, 09:56:46 AM »

Reparations don't accomplish anything other than increasing racial tensions. And what's separation supposed to mean? Resettlement to Africa? America belongs to all Americans, black, white or whatever.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2023, 11:34:57 AM »

Do you honestly believe that reparations would cool race relations?

Yes, I do because it shuts up the crying and the complaints. Reparations are given, give the Black community the resources to build and do whatever.

The more this continues, the more damaging it is to race relations. Reparations is part of the healing process. To move on and part ways.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2023, 01:04:56 PM »

No reparations. That's all that needs to be said.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2023, 02:27:40 PM »

No reparations. That's all that needs to be said.


Ha. You are out of touch with your base.

There is a large segment of Black Americans that want this. Your party better get it done or you will see a dropoff in black turnout.

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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2023, 07:13:36 PM »

Do you honestly believe that reparations would cool race relations?
Yes, I do because it shuts up the crying and the complaints. Reparations are given, give the Black community the resources to build and do whatever.

How do you think white (and Asian and Latino) Americans would react to reparations? Do you think it would be a positive reaction?
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2023, 10:55:37 AM »

This is a bronz threaf
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2023, 02:08:31 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2023, 02:30:01 PM by GP270watch »

 Why does Black Americans demanding justice(including economic justice) bother people so much? It's really weird and shows how racist people are.

 
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2023, 02:55:55 PM »

Why does Black Americans demanding justice(including economic justice) bother people so much? It's really weird and shows how racist people are.

 
What bothers people is asking random taxpayers who had nothing to do with slavery to foot the bill and try to play white guilt games with them. If anything it should come from the government not individual taxpayers. Look for slavers families and go from there
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2023, 02:57:03 PM »

Do you honestly believe that reparations would cool race relations?
Yes, I do because it shuts up the crying and the complaints. Reparations are given, give the Black community the resources to build and do whatever.

How do you think white (and Asian and Latino) Americans would react to reparations? Do you think it would be a positive reaction?
They would probably have to deal with it, activists will say that they benefit from slavery since they get more breaks than blacks. This is where the Democrats may split because their base would balkanize than it is already and the Republicans would probably benefit short term.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2023, 03:01:40 PM »

Reparations neither help to heal divisions nor are they a practical tool to fix ongoing injustices. In my opinion it's much more important to advocate for certain reforms, especially criminal justice reform, community work at the local level, economic development, promotion of black entrepreneurship, better policing, housing programs etc.

Separation is a ridiculous point as the goal should be to become a more inclusive society in which people are no longer judged by the color of their skin but their character and qualifications.
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2023, 03:43:14 PM »

I think the only way America can heal racially is if the United States government gives descendants of Foundational Black Americans slavery reparations to those who's ancestors were enslaved from 1619 to 1865.

It would end this constant and tiring debate on race, let the chips fall where they may on Black investment and growth and start the process of an option of Black Americans deciding whether to go separate ways and moving on.

The more this reparations debate goes on, the more racial divisions will fester. Acknowledge wrongdoing was done, give Black Americans the option of separation, and move on and we won't have to hear the word racism again.

Really simple. The government should have done this since 1865.
What do you mean by that?

Bit obvious, innit?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society

Bronz' whole shtick on this front is using racial activist language to argue for segregation. Has been for some time.

Maybe, but he do indirectly raise the very important question:

“What happens afterward”.

Reparation is something some activists and politicians keep bringing up, but let’s say they get it. Will all the problems of Black America go away, will they become like the average non-Black American? Non-Black Americans will to some extent expect reparations to be a “here’s your money, now I don’t want to hear any complains anymore (or go away)”. But what happens if they get the reparations and nothing really changes? 
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« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2023, 03:52:42 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2023, 03:56:57 PM by GP270watch »

Reparations neither help to heal divisions nor are they a practical tool to fix ongoing injustices. In my opinion it's much more important to advocate for certain reforms, especially criminal justice reform, community work at the local level, economic development, promotion of black entrepreneurship, better policing, housing programs etc.

 This is pure nonsense,. You are describing resources that other groups of Americans have received already, simply including Black Americans going forward is not a substitute for reparations and does not make up for the economic theft of Black America.
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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2023, 03:56:35 PM »

Why does Black Americans demanding justice(including economic justice) bother people so much? It's really weird and shows how racist people are.

 
What bothers people is asking random taxpayers who had nothing to do with slavery to foot the bill and try to play white guilt games with them. If anything it should come from the government not individual taxpayers. Look for slavers families and go from there

  Black Americans have a legitimate case against The United States government, many states, and several major corporations. What any other groups of Americans thinks doesn't really matter. It's also self-serving to say "it has nothing to do with me" but then interject a stupid opinion. If it really has nothing to do with you, shut your mouth! And if you don't like the American government and companies righting a wrongdoing go back to whatever country you or your ancestors came from.
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« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2023, 04:02:07 PM »

Slavery pre-1787 isnt the fault of the US
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« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2023, 04:05:14 PM »

Reparations neither help to heal divisions nor are they a practical tool to fix ongoing injustices. In my opinion it's much more important to advocate for certain reforms, especially criminal justice reform, community work at the local level, economic development, promotion of black entrepreneurship, better policing, housing programs etc.

 This is pure nonsense,. You are describing resources that other groups of Americans have received already, simply including Black Americans going forward is not a substitute for reparations and does not make up for the economic theft of Black Americans.

That theft has largely been done to people that no longer live; the same is true for the legacy of colonialism of third world countries by all Western countries, including many unjustified wars. The task of our time is to make sure there's more justice today, and reparations (which are more of a theory than a practical and constitutional issue) are not an appropriate tool to achieve that in my opinion.
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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2023, 04:15:28 PM »

Why does Black Americans demanding justice(including economic justice) bother people so much? It's really weird and shows how racist people are.

 
What bothers people is asking random taxpayers who had nothing to do with slavery to foot the bill and try to play white guilt games with them. If anything it should come from the government not individual taxpayers. Look for slavers families and go from there

  Black Americans have a legitimate case against The United States government, many states, and several major corporations. What any other groups of Americans thinks doesn't really matter. It's also self-serving to say "it has nothing to do with me" but then interject a stupid opinion. If it really has nothing to do with you, shut your mouth! And if you don't like the American government and companies righting a wrongdoing go back to whatever country you or your ancestors came from.
Don't talk about it to the rest of the American people, they don't care. You can't force them to care. If you're gonna have the attitude like that, don't expect reparations to happen. You have to persuade the public, not talk down. Attitudes like yourself is why people favor separation, you can't please people like you. Resentment is caused by people like you. I hope reparations happens and whenever have to hear about stuff like this again. And if communities can't succeed after reparations, it will be telling.
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