NC GOV 2024 - Stein (D) vs Robinson (R)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 28, 2024, 10:34:28 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Gubernatorial/State Elections (Moderators: Brittain33, GeorgiaModerate, Gass3268, Virginiá, Gracile)
  NC GOV 2024 - Stein (D) vs Robinson (R)
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 12 ... 14
Author Topic: NC GOV 2024 - Stein (D) vs Robinson (R)  (Read 19396 times)
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,703
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #150 on: June 07, 2023, 09:35:53 AM »

Calling for reparations from blacks and defending sex offenders/rapsists, I'm sure is a winning message.
Logged
President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️
Peebs
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 16,036
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #151 on: June 07, 2023, 10:06:02 AM »

Calling for reparations from blacks and defending sex offenders/rapsists, I'm sure is a winning message.
Yeah, I'm starting to think this might be more like PA-GOV than AZ-GOV.
Logged
Not Me, Us
KhanOfKhans
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,267
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #152 on: June 07, 2023, 12:00:05 PM »

Calling for reparations from blacks and defending sex offenders/rapsists, I'm sure is a winning message.
Yeah, I'm starting to think this might be more like PA-GOV than AZ-GOV.
This guy might actually be more batsh** than Mastriano. I didn't even know that was possible.
Logged
President Johnson
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,906
Germany


Political Matrix
E: -3.23, S: -4.70


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #153 on: June 07, 2023, 03:17:12 PM »

Calling for reparations from blacks and defending sex offenders/rapsists, I'm sure is a winning message.
Yeah, I'm starting to think this might be more like PA-GOV than AZ-GOV.
This guy might actually be more batsh** than Mastriano. I didn't even know that was possible.

That was my thought as well. He seems more obnoxious than Mastriano and Lake, which is already an extremely tall order. Let's hope North Carolina crystal clear rejects this moron.
Logged
Spectator
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,382
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #154 on: June 08, 2023, 09:35:23 PM »




Tossup ——> Lean D.

Stein has always had the advantage. Once people know how batsh**t Robinson is, the polls won’t look how they do now.
Logged
CelestialAlchemy
Rookie
**
Posts: 31
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #155 on: June 11, 2023, 02:33:38 PM »

If Stein is smart, he'll hammer away at all the crazy stuff Robinson's said while presenting himself as a pragmatic or moderate choice.
Logged
Pollster
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,757


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #156 on: June 12, 2023, 10:41:56 AM »

Logged
Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 88,690
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #157 on: June 12, 2023, 10:58:49 AM »

The race is very close like MS and KY G between Stein and Robinson
Logged
SnowLabrador
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,565
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #158 on: June 12, 2023, 01:42:19 PM »

Given that Trump is favored in North Carolina, it's likely a good move by Robinson to tie himself to the former President. The state's voters already elected Robinson to statewide office. The leopards are going to have a veritable feast.
Logged
The Arizonan
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,563
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #159 on: June 13, 2023, 04:43:52 AM »

It is actually possible for Mark Robinson to win this race? He only won the lieutenant governor race because he flew under the radar.

Jewish Democrat whose first name begins with J in race = Titanium D

Tossup -> Tilt D
With that logic, Josh Gottheimer should try to succeed Phil Murphy in 2025.

We should also try to recruit Joe Foster in New Hampshire, Justin Alfond in Maine, Jamie Raskin in Maryland, John Yarmuth in Kentucky, Jake Auchincloss in Massachusetts, and Jacob Frey in Minnesota for future gubernatorial elections.

Call it the JPAC

We should also recruit Jason Kander in Missouri, John Wertheim in New Mexico, and Jonathan Rothschild in Arizona. And yes, I found these names using Wikipedia.

In the meantime, let’s try encouraging Josh Mandelbaum to run for governor of Iowa after he gets elected mayor of Des Moines.
Logged
wbrocks67
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,245


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #160 on: June 13, 2023, 08:53:59 AM »

This kind of has shades of PA-GOV in the sense that Mastriano was also polling not terribly in the very beginning when most of the general electorate did not know how crazy he was. Once they did though... we saw what happened. Obviously Stein won't win by 15, but I imagine Stein is a strong enough candidate to pull that Shapiro playbook and make sure the GE knows how batsh*t Robinson actually is. At this point, not a NC-ian, but I imagine most regular people are not aware of all the stuff he has said.
Logged
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,703
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #161 on: June 13, 2023, 09:16:59 AM »

This kind of has shades of PA-GOV in the sense that Mastriano was also polling not terribly in the very beginning when most of the general electorate did not know how crazy he was. Once they did though... we saw what happened. Obviously Stein won't win by 15, but I imagine Stein is a strong enough candidate to pull that Shapiro playbook and make sure the GE knows how batsh*t Robinson actually is. At this point, not a NC-ian, but I imagine most regular people are not aware of all the stuff he has said.

Agreed. I would expect Stein to win by a similar margin than Cooper did. Possibly close to the maximum in NC.
Logged
Born to Slay. Forced to Work.
leecannon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,942
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #162 on: June 13, 2023, 09:58:34 AM »

This kind of has shades of PA-GOV in the sense that Mastriano was also polling not terribly in the very beginning when most of the general electorate did not know how crazy he was. Once they did though... we saw what happened. Obviously Stein won't win by 15, but I imagine Stein is a strong enough candidate to pull that Shapiro playbook and make sure the GE knows how batsh*t Robinson actually is. At this point, not a NC-ian, but I imagine most regular people are not aware of all the stuff he has said.

Agreed. I would expect Stein to win by a similar margin than Cooper did. Possibly close to the maximum in NC.

I wouldn’t be shocked if Stein outruns Cooper a few points. I could easily see Stein outrunning Cooper in places like Gaston, Union, Johnston, Alamance, maybe even Brunswick and Henderson. Similar to how Shapiro was able to get impressive numbers in places like York, Washington.
Logged
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,703
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #163 on: June 13, 2023, 10:08:32 AM »

This kind of has shades of PA-GOV in the sense that Mastriano was also polling not terribly in the very beginning when most of the general electorate did not know how crazy he was. Once they did though... we saw what happened. Obviously Stein won't win by 15, but I imagine Stein is a strong enough candidate to pull that Shapiro playbook and make sure the GE knows how batsh*t Robinson actually is. At this point, not a NC-ian, but I imagine most regular people are not aware of all the stuff he has said.

Agreed. I would expect Stein to win by a similar margin than Cooper did. Possibly close to the maximum in NC.

I wouldn’t be shocked if Stein outruns Cooper a few points. I could easily see Stein outrunning Cooper in places like Gaston, Union, Johnston, Alamance, maybe even Brunswick and Henderson. Similar to how Shapiro was able to get impressive numbers in places like York, Washington.

NC is a far less elastic state than PA though. Even the worst candidate would probably not fall below 45% of the vote.
Logged
Born to Slay. Forced to Work.
leecannon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,942
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #164 on: June 13, 2023, 10:43:27 AM »

This kind of has shades of PA-GOV in the sense that Mastriano was also polling not terribly in the very beginning when most of the general electorate did not know how crazy he was. Once they did though... we saw what happened. Obviously Stein won't win by 15, but I imagine Stein is a strong enough candidate to pull that Shapiro playbook and make sure the GE knows how batsh*t Robinson actually is. At this point, not a NC-ian, but I imagine most regular people are not aware of all the stuff he has said.

Agreed. I would expect Stein to win by a similar margin than Cooper did. Possibly close to the maximum in NC.

I wouldn’t be shocked if Stein outruns Cooper a few points. I could easily see Stein outrunning Cooper in places like Gaston, Union, Johnston, Alamance, maybe even Brunswick and Henderson. Similar to how Shapiro was able to get impressive numbers in places like York, Washington.

NC is a far less elastic state than PA though. Even the worst candidate would probably not fall below 45% of the vote.

You’re right. I’m not saying Stein would win with 60%, but 53-55% isn’t out of the question.
Logged
JMT
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,115


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #165 on: June 29, 2023, 07:15:57 AM »

Logged
SevenEleven
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,603


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #166 on: June 30, 2023, 12:20:05 AM »


Removes paralysis.
Logged
Progressive Pessimist
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 33,157
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.71, S: -7.65

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #167 on: June 30, 2023, 05:47:57 PM »

If we're still going with the Pennsylvania 2022 redux narrative, it should be noted that race featured a small swing to the right. I think we should expect the same thing by North Carolina standards is Stein wins. He isn't a popular incumbent like Cooper was, and that four point win for him in 2020 was basically a landslide for a Democrat in the state. I think it's overly optimistic to think that Stein replicates that margin. If Stein wins it likely won't be by more than two points. I wouldn't mind being wrong, but that's my impression so far.
Logged
wbrocks67
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,245


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #168 on: July 05, 2023, 11:29:42 AM »

Logged
wbrocks67
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,245


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #169 on: July 05, 2023, 11:30:17 AM »

If we're still going with the Pennsylvania 2022 redux narrative, it should be noted that race featured a small swing to the right. I think we should expect the same thing by North Carolina standards is Stein wins. He isn't a popular incumbent like Cooper was, and that four point win for him in 2020 was basically a landslide for a Democrat in the state. I think it's overly optimistic to think that Stein replicates that margin. If Stein wins it likely won't be by more than two points. I wouldn't mind being wrong, but that's my impression so far.

Not sure why you would even bother comparing Shapiro's win to Wolf's considering the dynamics were completely different (blue wave year vs. red wave year) and the fact that Wolf was also an incumbent.
Logged
Born to Slay. Forced to Work.
leecannon
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,942
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.45, S: -6.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #170 on: July 05, 2023, 11:56:48 AM »



The Republican nominee for governor everyone
Logged
GeorgiaModerate
Moderator
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 32,701


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #171 on: July 05, 2023, 12:12:22 PM »



The Republican nominee for governor everyone

When people tell you who they are...
Logged
Zedonathin2020
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,259
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #172 on: July 06, 2023, 08:07:25 AM »



Watch how it still comes down to 51.1 Stein – 48.9 Robinson
Logged
SnowLabrador
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,565
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #173 on: July 06, 2023, 01:37:03 PM »

This doesn't matter, electorally speaking.
Logged
Real Texan Politics
EEllis02
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,596
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.39, S: -1.57

P P P
WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #174 on: July 07, 2023, 01:09:16 AM »

Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 12 ... 14  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.064 seconds with 12 queries.