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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« on: January 18, 2023, 04:06:15 AM »
« edited: January 18, 2023, 04:10:09 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/01/17/biden-homeless-policy-fails-put-people-first/11038794002/

Another problem for Biden administration
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2023, 12:02:41 PM »

This was written by "a senior fellow with the Texas Public Policy Foundation", which is a conservative think tank known for its strong denial of climate change. It's only actual "evidence" for housing first being harmful is a single study focused exclusively on physical health outcomes and insinuating that housing first is the cause of increased homelessness purely because homelessness has increased in places that kind of use it(as well as everywhere else in the US).
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growing economic inequality exacerbated by a global pandemic, soaring housing costs, and housing supply shortfalls. It is further exacerbated by inequitable access to health care, including mental health and/or substance use disorder treatment; discrimination and exclusion of people of color, LGBTQI+ people, people with disabilities and older adults; as well as the consequences of mass incarceration.”
is "outrageous" because most homeless people face mental health issues and addiction. All the things the Biden administration listed clearly cause/exacerbate addiction/mental health issues. The economic issues clearly make affording a home harder. And a lot of homeless people pick up addictions and mental illnesses after ending up on the street

TL;DR this article is poorly written garbage that's arguments fall apart under small to moderate scrutiny

Here's a report on housing first that cites studies and evidence for all of its claims instead relying on bad logic and blind assertions.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2023, 12:20:25 PM »

Biden will never truly try to fix the homeless problem. NIMBY's are a key constituency of the neoliberal base.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2023, 02:33:47 PM »

There will be homeless people as long as there are lazy, dangerous f**k’s out there. There’s nothing we can do about that, unless you want to take the Soviet approach, which was to arrest/execute said lazy, dangerous f**k’s.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2023, 03:53:34 PM »
« Edited: January 18, 2023, 03:57:15 PM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

There will be homeless people as long as there are lazy, dangerous f**k’s out there. There’s nothing we can do about that, unless you want to take the Soviet approach, which was to arrest/execute said lazy, dangerous f**k’s.

No it's not called lazy people, not everyone gets married and their parent or guardian dies and their next of kin throws them out no one has to take care of anyone that's over 18 even if you pay them rent, but mom's are very close to their sons and won't dare to throw them out like a sis, and you have to have 2K for now rent and security deposit and they only get 1K for SSI

Some people were very close to their mom or guardian and they get thrown to next of kin and they are unmarried they don't get along most of the homeless are people on SSA

It's very hard if you are man and you want a woman to get married without a car most female wants you to own a car the men that ride buses are unmarried
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2023, 07:33:51 PM »

I know that this is an Olawakandi thread, but isn't homelessness more of a state and local issue that is better addressed in those jurisdictions?
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2023, 07:54:35 AM »

I know that this is an Olawakandi thread, but isn't homelessness more of a state and local issue that is better addressed in those jurisdictions?

You’re going to give the conservatives ideas of busing the homeless to liberal states next.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2023, 08:17:34 AM »
« Edited: January 19, 2023, 08:27:59 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

I know that this is an Olawakandi thread, but isn't homelessness more of a state and local issue that is better addressed in those jurisdictions?

You’re going to give the conservatives ideas of busing the homeless to liberal states next.

They already in Chicago, NY and LA and SF, SD and Sacramento

Especially northern California, SACRAMENTO/OAKLAND it's warm there, I have cuz there as soon as their matriarch dies and they are on drugs Northern California alot of these drug addicts too aren't married but they have grown kids or their kids are out of wedlock it's not all men without kids hut the majority are

They are giving reparations but you can't be a carpetbagger and the homeless rate is still gonna continue until it's a Natl Reparations most of the homeless are from other states so it will do no good it will reduce it in CA but not ones coming from other states

NY is warmer than Chicago they won't have a Natl Reparations law to help those people after Sacramento, NYC has the second most homeless

That's why this Document story was stupid we could and still could get a Filibuster proof Trifecta but Hidej waited 6 yrs to come out with classified documents it doesn't hurt his supporters among Ds except Donations as we see thevpolls but it hurts with moderate RS wh now see him as Hillary and they are already against Hidej on guns hut this is a slight chance still we can win MO and FL if Documents story is exonerated
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2023, 08:26:23 AM »
« Edited: January 19, 2023, 08:29:35 AM by Miscellaneous Top Secret Crumpets »

I know that this is an Olawakandi thread, but isn't homelessness more of a state and local issue that is better addressed in those jurisdictions?

Idk, a federal ban on the kind of local anti-panhandling and anti-camping regulations that push homeless people to a small number of cities not willing to enact those kinds of draconian measures would probably do a lot to even out the burden. Doable? Probably not. But a way the issue could use a national-level policy.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2023, 11:38:13 AM »

There will be homeless people as long as there are lazy, dangerous f**k’s out there. There’s nothing we can do about that, unless you want to take the Soviet approach, which was to arrest/execute said lazy, dangerous f**k’s.

And somehow I'm the one who hates poor people
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2023, 02:40:40 PM »

"The homeless" are people, too. Like everyone else, they need shelter, food, water, and clothing. We need to stop these restrictive housing policies that rely on a Ponzi-like cycle of ever-increasing prices to create a false appearance of wealth and prosperity. Policies that run counter-cyclical to the nation-wide economy, taking a page from Keynes, would help ensure some price stability for the most basic classes of home that people need.
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2023, 03:08:28 PM »

I know that this is an Olawakandi thread, but isn't homelessness more of a state and local issue that is better addressed in those jurisdictions?

Idk, a federal ban on the kind of local anti-panhandling and anti-camping regulations that push homeless people to a small number of cities not willing to enact those kinds of draconian measures would probably do a lot to even out the burden. Doable? Probably not. But a way the issue could use a national-level policy.

From my experience in law enforcement, the result of anti-camping and anti-public drinking ordinances aimed at homeless being overturned isn't really to "push homeless people" to the cities without those policies. The real effect is to increase the visibility of the homeless who were already there by reducing the amount of time they spend in or in transit from county jails and removing the ability of law enforcement to disperse them. The homeless if given the choice would always congregate in cities anyway; the cities have the resources that keep the homeless around (day labor opportunities, charity, and drugs) in way higher supplies than less urban areas ever would. I'd expect the effect of a national ban wouldn't do too much to change the composition of where homelessness was but it'd probably make it LOOK like there were a whole lot more homeless people all across the country.
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2023, 12:35:59 PM »

Biden will never truly try to fix the homeless problem. NIMBY's are a key constituency of the neoliberal base.

Right, because the GOP is ripe with YIMBYs.

The majority of both parties (and the electorate at-large) are NIMBYs, but most YIMBYs are definitely Democrats.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2023, 01:01:48 PM »
« Edited: January 20, 2023, 01:22:47 PM by GP270watch »

  Why is it when it comes to homelessness nobody listens to experts, like people who actually work with the homeless and study what causes homelessness: Income inequality and stagnant wages, unemployment, lack of affordable housing, lack of affordable healthcare, being born into poverty, lack of mental health and addiction treatment services, racial inequality, punitive justice system/mass incarceration, domestic violence and lack of resources in response, anti-LGBT(especially concerning youth who come out and are subject to displacement from family).





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