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« on: January 04, 2023, 02:56:46 PM »

Seems amongst white voters, areas with large numbers of people with Finnish, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Slovenian, Welsh, French, Portuguese, and Italian all saw Trump do much better than Romney or McCain.  By contrast it seems in areas with large numbers of English ancestry is where you saw strongest swings away from GOP with many of the areas Trump doing more than 10% worse than Romney having high numbers with English ancestry.  For former I assume higher number blue collar workers while is latter more college educated and well off or just coincidence?  Asides Portuguese, pretty sure Trump won all others while Obama probably won many in first category.  Dutch also saw big swing towards Biden but still Trump won big, just not as big as GOP usually does.  I believe Dutch Reformed are like Mormons; very conservative but felt Trump was immoral whereas it seems with Evangelicals many willing to overlook this in hopes of getting pro-life justices.
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2023, 10:20:11 PM »

Trump probably won every european ancestry group. Scotch-Irish was no doubt his best, probably won this group by 80%

I would guess Biden's best white group would have been Norwegian or Swedish in upper midwest.

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2023, 11:50:10 AM »

No, east-European Jewish.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2023, 02:44:34 AM »

Seems amongst white voters, areas with large numbers of people with Finnish, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Slovenian, Welsh, French, Portuguese, and Italian all saw Trump do much better than Romney or McCain.  By contrast it seems in areas with large numbers of English ancestry is where you saw strongest swings away from GOP with many of the areas Trump doing more than 10% worse than Romney having high numbers with English ancestry.  For former I assume higher number blue collar workers while is latter more college educated and well off or just coincidence?  Asides Portuguese, pretty sure Trump won all others while Obama probably won many in first category.  Dutch also saw big swing towards Biden but still Trump won big, just not as big as GOP usually does.  I believe Dutch Reformed are like Mormons; very conservative but felt Trump was immoral whereas it seems with Evangelicals many willing to overlook this in hopes of getting pro-life justices.

In regions like New England though a lot of the whites of English descent are working class themselves. They're just more secular then the working class in other parts of the country and more likely to be union members. Ironically sort of an outlier group among the White Working Class as they've trended towards the Democrats over the past generation.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2023, 07:46:02 PM »

I would guess Biden's best white group would have been Norwegian or Swedish in upper midwest.

Trump got 65% of the vote in North Dakota, the most Norwegian American state.

I doubt "German vs Scandinavian" in the Upper Midwest is really detectable anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2023, 07:49:57 PM »

Seems amongst white voters, areas with large numbers of people with Finnish, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Slovenian, Welsh, French, Portuguese, and Italian all saw Trump do much better than Romney or McCain.  By contrast it seems in areas with large numbers of English ancestry is where you saw strongest swings away from GOP with many of the areas Trump doing more than 10% worse than Romney having high numbers with English ancestry.  For former I assume higher number blue collar workers while is latter more college educated and well off or just coincidence?  Asides Portuguese, pretty sure Trump won all others while Obama probably won many in first category.  Dutch also saw big swing towards Biden but still Trump won big, just not as big as GOP usually does.  I believe Dutch Reformed are like Mormons; very conservative but felt Trump was immoral whereas it seems with Evangelicals many willing to overlook this in hopes of getting pro-life justices.

A lot of whites of British ancestry, particularly in the South, report "American" ancestry.  Though interestingly less so than before.

There's been an uptick in English ancestry responses and that corresponds almost perfectly in the decline in American responses. 

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=533850.msg8913872#msg8913872
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2023, 08:34:42 PM »

I would guess Biden's best white group would have been Norwegian or Swedish in upper midwest.

Trump got 65% of the vote in North Dakota, the most Norwegian American state.

I doubt "German vs Scandinavian" in the Upper Midwest is really detectable anymore.
You are probably right. I know Biden did well with Minniesota whites so I assumed Scandinavian was a better group.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2023, 11:46:15 PM »

I'm guessing those of German, Dutch and Scandinavian ancestries are the most likely to live in rural areas.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2023, 05:03:06 PM »

How do Norwegian Americans vote?

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=537831.0
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2023, 05:44:58 PM »

Seems amongst white voters, areas with large numbers of people with Finnish, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Slovenian, Welsh, French, Portuguese, and Italian all saw Trump do much better than Romney or McCain.  By contrast it seems in areas with large numbers of English ancestry is where you saw strongest swings away from GOP with many of the areas Trump doing more than 10% worse than Romney having high numbers with English ancestry.  For former I assume higher number blue collar workers while is latter more college educated and well off or just coincidence?  Asides Portuguese, pretty sure Trump won all others while Obama probably won many in first category.  Dutch also saw big swing towards Biden but still Trump won big, just not as big as GOP usually does.  I believe Dutch Reformed are like Mormons; very conservative but felt Trump was immoral whereas it seems with Evangelicals many willing to overlook this in hopes of getting pro-life justices.

A lot of whites of British ancestry, particularly in the South, report "American" ancestry.  Though interestingly less so than before.

There's been an uptick in English ancestry responses and that corresponds almost perfectly in the decline in American responses. 

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=533850.msg8913872#msg8913872

I wonder how much of this can be traced to the increase in AncestryDNA tests.

Trump probably won every european ancestry group. Scotch-Irish was no doubt his best, probably won this group by 80%

I would guess Biden's best white group would have been Norwegian or Swedish in upper midwest.



Do Jews just not count as white or European anymore or...?
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2023, 12:12:07 AM »

Regional distribution for European ancestries of 3 million+:

German ancestry

Northeast  15%
Midwest  38%
South  27%
West  20%

English ancestry

Northeast  14%
Midwest  21%
South  41%
West  24%

Irish ancestry

Northeast  24%
Midwest  24%
South  33%
West  19%

Italian ancestry

Northeast  41%
Midwest  17%
South  25%
West  17%

Polish ancestry

Northeast  31%
Midwest  36%
South  20%
West  13%

French/French Canadian ancestry

Northeast  27%
Midwest  21%
South  33%
West  19%

Scottish ancestry

Northeast  14%
Midwest  20%
South  39%
West  27%

Norwegian ancestry

Northeast  6%
Midwest  47%
South  14%
West  33%

Swedish ancestry

Northeast  13%
Midwest  36%
South  18%
West  33%

Dutch ancestry

Northeast  14%
Midwest  38%
South  24%
West  24%
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