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« on: January 01, 2023, 02:57:57 PM »

https://www.ft.com/content/c361e372-769e-45cd-a063-f5c0a7767cf4

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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2023, 03:05:22 PM »

Young whites will when reparations eats their finances

There are a lot of young Kyle Rittenhouses around, it's just that we haven't heard from them yet.

As for young Blacks, they are becoming more and more black nationalist so there are strains of conservatism there
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2023, 09:39:52 PM »

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In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2023, 10:00:42 PM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2023, 06:53:17 AM »

Young whites will when reparations eats their finances

There are a lot of young Kyle Rittenhouses around, it's just that we haven't heard from them yet.

As for young Blacks, they are becoming more and more black nationalist so there are strains of conservatism there

Why does it feel like whenever there's a thread about young voters, Kyle Rittenhouse inevitably gets namechecked?
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2023, 10:57:05 AM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same


Hardly any Gen Xers voted in 1984.  I would bet that a plurality of GenXers--at least the ones born between 1970 and 1978--cast their first vote for Bill Clinton.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2023, 11:11:42 AM »

Idk, it kinda looks like they could be a more Democratic version of Gen Xers Bc it looks like they are following the same trend line as them just about 10 points more Dem. we shall see though..
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2023, 12:21:30 PM »

Not surprising, and I doubt they will get more conservative any time soon. Conservatism, shockingly, has proven to offer very little to the "none of us can afford to buy a house and half of us are gay" generation.
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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2023, 12:38:20 PM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same

Almost none of Gen X could vote in 1984. Gen X was born roughly 1964 to 1981 (not sure of the exact definitions FT is using) so the "twenty-year-old" numbers are averaging data from around 1984 to 2001.

About half of millennials couldn't vote in 2008 either, and many couldn't vote in 2012.
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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2023, 08:09:41 PM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same

Using 2008 as a baseline is unfair due to the fact that Democrats won by like 8 points nationally.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2023, 08:22:27 PM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same

Using 2008 as a baseline is unfair due to the fact that Democrats won by like 8 points nationally.

Then 2012 as well
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2023, 08:39:57 PM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same

Could you produce this electoral evidence? My suspicion is that you're right, or at least less wrong than the average Atlas opinion, but I'm curious as to the real data. Has there been a real shift on college campuses, for example?
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2023, 08:48:42 PM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same

Could you produce this electoral evidence? My suspicion is that you're right, or at least less wrong than the average Atlas opinion, but I'm curious as to the real data. Has there been a real shift on college campuses, for example?

I am not talking about young voters in 2008/2012 vs young voters now but rather how young voters from both cycles are voting now. Unfortunately the CNN pages for both 2008/2012 is broken now as CNN does a good job breaking the 30-44 demographic into 30-39 as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

Obama in 2012 won voters 18-29 by around 23 points(In 2008 it was 34)

In 2020 votes aged 30-39 voted for Biden by 5 points

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics



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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2023, 08:53:21 PM »

OSR in shambles

In all seriousness, this shouldn't be a surprise. The GOP offers absolutely nothing to voters under 40 unless they're extremely religious or extremely wealthy.

Actual election data from 2008-2020 shows they undeniably have though or even 2012-2020.

Also the Gen X numbers don't seem right given Reagan did better with them than he did nationally in 1984 and Bush did around the same

Could you produce this electoral evidence? My suspicion is that you're right, or at least less wrong than the average Atlas opinion, but I'm curious as to the real data. Has there been a real shift on college campuses, for example?

I am not talking about young voters in 2008/2012 vs young voters now but rather how young voters from both cycles are voting now. Unfortunately the CNN pages for both 2008/2012 is broken now as CNN does a good job breaking the 30-44 demographic into 30-39 as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics

Obama in 2012 won voters 18-29 by around 23 points(In 2008 it was 34)

In 2020 votes aged 30-39 voted for Biden by 5 points

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election#Voter_demographics


That does show an absolute decrease in % voting for Democrats. I wonder if it stands as a relative measure too, i.e. if we were to calculate a "generational PVI". Only then can we talk about a generation trending a certain way in the same sense as a district or state doing the same.
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« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2023, 02:29:02 AM »

The racist, plutocratic wing of the American Right has little to offer them.
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