Opinion of white Americans who started voting when Trump was on the ballot

[Suburbia]

They didn't care until Donald Trump was on the ballot. People who skipped out on much of the 20th century. Why now?

[Santander]

You mean Zoomers?

[Suburbia]

You mean Zoomers?

No, I am talking about white Silent and Boomers who never voted until Trump came along....Reagan, the Iraq War, 9/11, Obama did not interest them.

Why did Donald Trump make them turn out and become politicized?

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

[Suburbia]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

They came out to support Trump.

Missed out on the Civil Rights Era, Cold War, Lewinsky scandal, 9/11, Iraq/Afghanistan, Great Recession and 2008 and 2012 elections.

Who are they and why?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Bronze threads

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

They came out to support Trump.

Missed out on the Civil Rights Era, Cold War, Lewinsky scandal, 9/11, Iraq/Afghanistan, Great Recession and 2008 and 2012 elections.

Who are they and why?

Racist White boomers who don't care about politics until their 401k is threatened and finally found a candidate between bitching about young people and posting on Facebook.

[Ferguson97]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

They came out to support Trump.

Missed out on the Civil Rights Era, Cold War, Lewinsky scandal, 9/11, Iraq/Afghanistan, Great Recession and 2008 and 2012 elections.

Who are they and why?

Boomers who didn’t find any of the other nominees racist enough

[OSR stands with Israel]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

They came out to support Trump.

Missed out on the Civil Rights Era, Cold War, Lewinsky scandal, 9/11, Iraq/Afghanistan, Great Recession and 2008 and 2012 elections.

Who are they and why?

This may be true for 2016 but there was far far more newer voters in 2016 than 2020 when turnout spiked and in 2020, Biden clearly did better with newer White Voters than Trump did.

In 2020 , Trump did better with newer Hispanic/Asian voters

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

They came out to support Trump.

Missed out on the Civil Rights Era, Cold War, Lewinsky scandal, 9/11, Iraq/Afghanistan, Great Recession and 2008 and 2012 elections.

Who are they and why?

This may be true for 2016 but there was far far more newer voters in 2016 than 2020 when turnout spiked and in 2020, Biden clearly did better with newer White Voters than Trump did.

In 2020 , Trump did better with newer Hispanic/Asian voters

Fairly impressive, considering how Whites as a whole voted for Trump by a decent margin.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

They came out to support Trump.

Missed out on the Civil Rights Era, Cold War, Lewinsky scandal, 9/11, Iraq/Afghanistan, Great Recession and 2008 and 2012 elections.

Who are they and why?

This may be true for 2016 but there was far far more newer voters in 2016 than 2020 when turnout spiked and in 2020, Biden clearly did better with newer White Voters than Trump did.

In 2020 , Trump did better with newer Hispanic/Asian voters

Fairly impressive, considering how Whites as a whole voted for Trump by a decent margin.

Well Biden did better with Whites than any dem has since Obama 2008 so he almost certainly won the newer white voters given they would tend to be younger .

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Depends on if they came out to support or to oppose Trump.

They came out to support Trump.

Missed out on the Civil Rights Era, Cold War, Lewinsky scandal, 9/11, Iraq/Afghanistan, Great Recession and 2008 and 2012 elections.

Who are they and why?

This may be true for 2016 but there was far far more newer voters in 2016 than 2020 when turnout spiked and in 2020, Biden clearly did better with newer White Voters than Trump did.

In 2020 , Trump did better with newer Hispanic/Asian voters

Fairly impressive, considering how Whites as a whole voted for Trump by a decent margin.

Well Biden did better with Whites than any dem has since Obama 2008 so he almost certainly won the newer white voters given they would tend to be younger .

That's fair.

[Kleine Scheiße]

depends on whether they didn't vote by choice or because of eligibility

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Maybe they hated the Hilldawg more than they liked Trump.  FF

[TPIG]

Overall a mixed bag.

Surely some came out because of Trump's boorish pride in his bigoted appeals, but others, particularly in the rust belt, came out because Trump was the first major party nominee in a long time to challenge the broadly bipartisan consensus on free trade/globalization and to call the economy rigged from the top down. Of course, Trump ended up ingratiating himself to the swamp and perpetuating it, but doesn't discount the power of his rhetoric.

[Schiff for Senate]

depends on whether they didn't vote by choice or because of eligibility

Probably this.

But to state the obvious, it's a wide and broad range of people, a diverse group of voters. Tough to classify such a broad group as FF or HP, and obviously some are FF's, some are HP's, and some are in between.

Still, it's clear which types of people Bronz was thinking about when he made this thread, and if it wasn't clear who he was referring to, his multiple posts thereafter clarify it. That group of people is HP on the whole.

[Schiff for Senate]

Overall a mixed bag.

Surely some came out because of Trump's boorish pride in his bigoted appeals, but others, particularly in the rust belt, came out because Trump was the first major party nominee in a long time to challenge the broadly bipartisan consensus on free trade/globalization and to call the economy rigged from the top down. Of course, Trump ended up ingratiating himself to the swamp and perpetuating it, but doesn't discount the power of his rhetoric.

Very true. I would say overall the people Bronz is talking about (older voters who didn't vote by choice until Trump came along) are HP's, but a decent number are definitely FF's with whom I can sympathise.

On which note, as another poster (or multiple posters), have said, I can understand the rationale of some Trump 2016 voters, and can even sympathise with their vote. But the Trump 2020 voters are the ones who really rankle me (especially those that still support him after the results of 2020 and Trump's reprehensible post-election behaviour).