Why does seem that Arizona has more far-right weirdos that any other state per capita?

[Zedonathin2020]

With absolute fruit loops like Lake, Gosar, Masters and Rogers being cranked out by the AZ GOP, how is it that there are so many far-right politicians from the same state that John McCain once represented?

[GP270watch]

With absolute fruit loops like Lake, Gosar, Masters and Rogers being cranked out by the AZ GOP, how is it that there are so many far-right politicians from the same state that John McCain once represented?

Arizona has a history of being a very racist state, google it.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It has a history of a sharply polarized state GOP between moderates and extremists going way back (like back to the time of Goldwater.) The far-right won out now.

[Vice President Christian Man]

It seems like states in a transition phase seem to bring out the worst politicians. And McCain was an exception, not a rule and arguably the reason these politicians didn’t win because he was beloved. Even Brewer was far-right although not to the level we saw. ‘90s California and late ‘00s Colorado seems to be the closest comparisons.

[OSR stands with Israel]

It's not really that hard to figure out once these questions are answered.

What type of state is Arizona? A Western State

What is considered part of the ethos of West ? A good deal is the Wild Wild West

What did the Wild Wild West stand for ? Anarchy, Land Owners and Ranchers having most of the governmental power


Its why many Western Republican Parties spiral out of control and collapse when the state goes purple and that is cause this describes a good deal of the West as it gives these types of people more power in the party which causes more of a decline and it sort of creates a downward spiral for those state GOP parties.

[Aurelius]

It's not really that hard to figure out once these questions are answered.

What type of state is Arizona? A Western State

What is considered part of the ethos of West ? A good deal is the Wild Wild West

What did the Wild Wild West stand for ? Anarchy, Land Owners and Ranchers having most of the governmental power


Its why many Western Republican Parties spiral out of control and collapse when the state goes purple and that is cause this describes a good deal of the West as it gives these types of people more power in the party which causes more of a decline and it sort of creates a downward spiral for those state GOP parties.

And this isn't unique to Arizona. It might be even more pronounced in places like Idaho. But in Idaho everyone is a Republican so it doesn't matter.

[OSR stands with Israel]

It's not really that hard to figure out once these questions are answered.

What type of state is Arizona? A Western State

What is considered part of the ethos of West ? A good deal is the Wild Wild West

What did the Wild Wild West stand for ? Anarchy, Land Owners and Ranchers having most of the governmental power


Its why many Western Republican Parties spiral out of control and collapse when the state goes purple and that is cause this describes a good deal of the West as it gives these types of people more power in the party which causes more of a decline and it sort of creates a downward spiral for those state GOP parties.

And this isn't unique to Arizona. It might be even more pronounced in places like Idaho. But in Idaho everyone is a Republican so it doesn't matter.

Btw in many ways that creates a moderating influence cause you have people who otherwise may not be on the right side of politics voting in your primaries .

A huge reason why these parties spiral out of control is when the state starts to become purple, many of the people who were just Republican because of instincts start to leave the party and that gives these types of voters more influence over the state party which then causes more people to leave and so on and so on.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

It's not really that hard to figure out once these questions are answered.

What type of state is Arizona? A Western State

What is considered part of the ethos of West ? A good deal is the Wild Wild West

What did the Wild Wild West stand for ? Anarchy, Land Owners and Ranchers having most of the governmental power


Its why many Western Republican Parties spiral out of control and collapse when the state goes purple and that is cause this describes a good deal of the West as it gives these types of people more power in the party which causes more of a decline and it sort of creates a downward spiral for those state GOP parties.

And this isn't unique to Arizona. It might be even more pronounced in places like Idaho. But in Idaho everyone is a Republican so it doesn't matter.

Btw in many ways that creates a moderating influence cause you have people who otherwise may not be on the right side of politics voting in your primaries .

A huge reason why these parties spiral out of control is when the state starts to become purple, many of the people who were just Republican because of instincts start to leave the party and that gives these types of voters more influence over the state party which then causes more people to leave and so on and so on.

As it so turns out, there are places (like Northern Idaho, for example) where the numbers of ultra-conservative Republicans is so large that Ds and more moderate Rs regularly team up to try to outvote in primaries (it isn't too successful a majority of the time, from what I heard).

[OSR stands with Israel]

It's not really that hard to figure out once these questions are answered.

What type of state is Arizona? A Western State

What is considered part of the ethos of West ? A good deal is the Wild Wild West

What did the Wild Wild West stand for ? Anarchy, Land Owners and Ranchers having most of the governmental power


Its why many Western Republican Parties spiral out of control and collapse when the state goes purple and that is cause this describes a good deal of the West as it gives these types of people more power in the party which causes more of a decline and it sort of creates a downward spiral for those state GOP parties.

And this isn't unique to Arizona. It might be even more pronounced in places like Idaho. But in Idaho everyone is a Republican so it doesn't matter.

Btw in many ways that creates a moderating influence cause you have people who otherwise may not be on the right side of politics voting in your primaries .

A huge reason why these parties spiral out of control is when the state starts to become purple, many of the people who were just Republican because of instincts start to leave the party and that gives these types of voters more influence over the state party which then causes more people to leave and so on and so on.

As it so turns out, there are places (like Northern Idaho, for example) where the numbers of ultra-conservative Republicans is so large that Ds and more moderate Rs regularly team up to try to outvote in primaries (it isn't too successful a majority of the time, from what I heard).

Sure but there is a reason why Brad Little, Mike Crapo, Jim Risch are generally way better than whoever most of what the AZ/CO GOP has put up for years.

[Del Tachi]

Why does it seem like San Francisco and Portland have more far-left weirdos per capita?  The West has always been America's most ideological part of the country, being disconnected from the structured establishments and hierarchies of the East Coast 

[SlavicOrthodoxWolf]

implying John "we need 100 more years of war!" McCain was not a far right weirdo

[John Dule]

Snowbird havens are full of insane boomers. Hence why we get places like Arizona, Florida, and Orange County CA. Also Vegas to some extent, though that city is crazy for a multitude of other reasons.

[Hermit For Peace]

Snowbird havens are full of insane boomers. Hence why we get places like Arizona, Florida, and Orange County CA. Also Vegas to some extent, though that city is crazy for a multitude of other reasons.

Why do you say Boomers are insane? I don't know any insane Boomers.

[Hermit For Peace]

Part of it has to do with too much sun. Too much sun affects the "far-right weirdos" more than us regular folks.

[longtimelurker]

With absolute fruit loops like Lake, Gosar, Masters and Rogers being cranked out by the AZ GOP, how is it that there are so many far-right politicians from the same state that John McCain once represented?

Remember Evan Mecham?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why does it seem like San Francisco and Portland have more far-left weirdos per capita?  The West has always been America's most ideological part of the country, being disconnected from the structured establishments and hierarchies of the East Coast 

San Francisco wasnt always left wing:

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/celebrating-womens-suffrage/california-women-suffrage-centennial

But on Election Day, October 10, 1911, the measure was soundly defeated in the San Francisco Bay Area and just barely passed in Los Angeles. Disheartened and disappointed, suffragists began to plan yet another campaign when late reports from the far flung counties began to swing the vote in their favor.

When the long count was finally completed several days later, Equal Suffrage had passed by only 3,587 votes – an average majority of one vote in each precinct in the state! The final tally was 125,037 to 121,450. As suffragists had hoped, work in the rural districts successfully overcame the more organized opposition in the cities. With the passage of votes for women in California, the number of women with full suffrage in the U.S. doubled, and San Francisco became the most populous city in the world in which women could vote.

Also neither was Portland:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/racist-history-portland/492035/



SF and Portland becoming left wing was a product of the 1950s and 1960s

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

With absolute fruit loops like Lake, Gosar, Masters and Rogers being cranked out by the AZ GOP, how is it that there are so many far-right politicians from the same state that John McCain once represented?

The congressional delegation in the Phoenix suburbs was rather right wing. People forget that Jeff Flake was very extremely conservative on economic issues, he just took a more moderate stance on immigration similar to McCain.

Trent Franks, Matt Salmon, JD Hayworth, John Shadegg were all very conservative. Hayworth challenged McCain in a primary in 2010. McCain survived by supporting the AZ immigration law, taking a hard line against Obama and going after Hayworth on I think earmarks or something of that nature.

At the time there was a sense that one of these more conservative Congressmen would replace McCain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It's not really that hard to figure out once these questions are answered.

What type of state is Arizona? A Western State

What is considered part of the ethos of West ? A good deal is the Wild Wild West

What did the Wild Wild West stand for ? Anarchy, Land Owners and Ranchers having most of the governmental power


Its why many Western Republican Parties spiral out of control and collapse when the state goes purple and that is cause this describes a good deal of the West as it gives these types of people more power in the party which causes more of a decline and it sort of creates a downward spiral for those state GOP parties.

And this isn't unique to Arizona. It might be even more pronounced in places like Idaho. But in Idaho everyone is a Republican so it doesn't matter.

Btw in many ways that creates a moderating influence cause you have people who otherwise may not be on the right side of politics voting in your primaries .

A huge reason why these parties spiral out of control is when the state starts to become purple, many of the people who were just Republican because of instincts start to leave the party and that gives these types of voters more influence over the state party which then causes more people to leave and so on and so on.

Its the same process that I expected to happen if Democrats every got over the hump in Mississippi, though less driven by Western culture and more by historical Southern racial polarization.

[Progressive Pessimist]

As true as this is it also seems like a backlash is finally happening to these peoples' presence, at the statewide level at least. They're just too stubborn to change or learn anything for the sake of their party's future though.

[Saint Milei]

The wild wild west consists of sane, passionate Republicans like Blake Masters, and insane, moderate warmongers like John Mccain

[OSR stands with Israel]

The wild wild west consists of sane, passionate Republicans like Blake Masters, and insane, moderate warmongers like John Mccain

One senator wanted to serve the people of Arizona and the country with what he thought was best for Arizona and the Nation while the other wanted to serve Peter Thiel .

Keep in mind that guy outright said he got his political views from a class he took from Thiel then being mentored by him

[Saint Milei]

The wild wild west consists of sane, passionate Republicans like Blake Masters, and insane, moderate warmongers like John Mccain

One senator wanted to serve the people of Arizona and the country with what he thought was best for Arizona and the Nation while the other wanted to serve Peter Thiel .

Keep in mind that guy outright said he got his political views from a class he took from Thiel then being mentored by him

Yeah, Marc Victor was good. Masters was better. Thiel has a better grasp of politics than his critics and none of the GOP cares about thiel when he sends them checks. Masters has also read more on political philosophy than his critics who don't read anything. He was writing articles by the time he was 20 when his critics we're having cocktail dinners with the same politicians nobody likes.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

You’re overlooking Oregon and Washington, I’d say.

[the artist formerly known as catmusic]

With absolute fruit loops like Lake, Gosar, Masters and Rogers being cranked out by the AZ GOP, how is it that there are so many far-right politicians from the same state that John McCain once represented?

Arizona has a combination of deep-seeded racism, wild west fantasy, being extremely rural outside the Phoenix/Tuscon areas, and bigots from the rest of the country who flock there in their old age for the warm and dry climate. It's got a very long history of far-right movements as well. Phoenix was one of the last big cities to go democratic, it took until enough young and diverse people had moved there o outweigh the very republican voting block, and was helped by Trumpism taking over the GOP so a lot of moderate republicans vote democratic now. At this point the AZ GOP is in a bind where they can't win primaries without a Trump-y candidate but can't win generals with them.

Oh, and I'm not here for a McCain redemption arc lmao

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being extremely rural outside the Phoenix/Tuscon areas,

Does Arizona really have that many rural whites? It's not northern New England.