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Question: would you fire an executive for this quote?
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yes, every time
 
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yes, most of the time
 
#3
yes, unless he made me a lot of money
 
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probably
 
#5
no, unless he was easily replaceable
 
#6
no, not most of the time
 
#7
no, never
 
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YJDGID
 
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« on: December 09, 2022, 09:17:12 PM »

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"I race cars, play golf, and fondle big-breasted women. But I take weekends and major holidays off,"
this was said in a TikTok in a video posted by a guy (not the one fired) who likes to ask people getting out of fancy cars what they do for a living.
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2022, 09:23:28 PM »

What he does with women (provided it is consensual), golf clubs, or racecars is not my business. Voted "no, not most of the time" instead of "no, never" because some people who might display this attitude might act unprofessionally in the workplace as a result of it and there are contexts in which them saying something along these lines could be reason to fire them.
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2022, 10:14:39 PM »

What he does with women (provided it is consensual), golf clubs, or racecars is not my business. Voted "no, not most of the time" instead of "no, never" because some people who might display this attitude might act unprofessionally in the workplace as a result of it and there are contexts in which them saying something along these lines could be reason to fire them.

I feel like “fondle” is kind of a bad term to use. Might just be me, but it seems like a word that usually doesn’t imply consent.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2022, 10:16:51 PM »

What he does with women (provided it is consensual), golf clubs, or racecars is not my business. Voted "no, not most of the time" instead of "no, never" because some people who might display this attitude might act unprofessionally in the workplace as a result of it and there are contexts in which them saying something along these lines could be reason to fire them.

I feel like “fondle” is kind of a bad term to use. Might just be me, but it seems like a word that usually doesn’t imply consent.

Spoken like a man who's never done any fondling.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2022, 10:38:42 PM »

What he does with women (provided it is consensual), golf clubs, or racecars is not my business. Voted "no, not most of the time" instead of "no, never" because some people who might display this attitude might act unprofessionally in the workplace as a result of it and there are contexts in which them saying something along these lines could be reason to fire them.

I feel like “fondle” is kind of a bad term to use. Might just be me, but it seems like a word that usually doesn’t imply consent.

Spoken like a man who's never done any fondling.

Wouldn’t be here on Atlas with you guys if I had!
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2022, 11:56:51 PM »

What he does with women (provided it is consensual), golf clubs, or racecars is not my business. Voted "no, not most of the time" instead of "no, never" because some people who might display this attitude might act unprofessionally in the workplace as a result of it and there are contexts in which them saying something along these lines could be reason to fire them.

I feel like “fondle” is kind of a bad term to use. Might just be me, but it seems like a word that usually doesn’t imply consent.
I am not sure how to judge the word "fondle". I can count on one hand how many times I've seen it and I don't really understand its deeper meaning. I know a lot about a lot of topics, but my knowledge will always have its limitations.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2022, 12:27:15 AM »

Would you fire an executive for taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem?
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2022, 03:26:30 AM »

Would you fire an executive for taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem?

Non Franquitur
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2022, 03:29:00 AM »

Would you fire an executive for taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem?

Non Franquitur

I'm not surprised you're too slow to see the fairly obvious connection.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2022, 03:58:39 AM »

If I’m in the position where I can fire an executive then I’m pretty sure I’d be in on it too
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2022, 05:19:01 AM »

If an executive fondled a woman's breasts in the forest and no one was there to see it, did it really happen?
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2022, 06:05:23 AM »
« Edited: December 10, 2022, 07:21:37 AM by Benjamin Frank »

1.The reason I don't take this seriously is this is just another of the endless (implicit) John Dule 'cancel culture is horrible' thread.

2.To take this more seriously, there are two scenarios in which he should be fired:
A.If there are complaints against this executive to HR about how women in his office find him to be 'creepy' this would be confirmation.
B.If the corporation has a 'morality clause' (and many do) to keep the corporation from being seen in a bad light, and this quote violates the morality clause, he should be fired.

"A morality clause, or morals clause, is a provision reached in an employment contract negotiation that requires a prospective employee to adhere to certain behavioral standards during the life of the employee's contract"

So, without more details, this question/thread is just another 'oh no, cancel culture!' pointless post. The term 'cancel culture' is less than 10 years old, but corporate morality clauses are probably as old as corporations, for instance. So, let's at least acknowledge that 'cancel culture' has existed since likely the beginning of civilization.

And also, as to anybody responding 'nobody said otherwise' I think one of the implied things in the OP, because it's been falsely claimed before, is that people weren't fired for saying these sorts of things in public before social media.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2022, 02:13:29 PM »

1.The reason I don't take this seriously is this is just another of the endless (implicit) John Dule 'cancel culture is horrible' thread.


It’s amazing that you can write multiple paragraphs on a subject like this and still not realize that (A) I didn’t make this thread, and (B) My threads are usually devoted to criticizing car culture, not cancel culture.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2022, 04:08:52 PM »

1.The reason I don't take this seriously is this is just another of the endless (implicit) John Dule 'cancel culture is horrible' thread.


It’s amazing that you can write multiple paragraphs on a subject like this and still not realize that (A) I didn’t make this thread, and (B) My threads are usually devoted to criticizing car culture, not cancel culture.

Sad Sorry.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2022, 09:46:34 PM »

It would depend if it was hurting the company's stock price or not, an whether firing him would help it or not. (Responsible board member who takes my duty to the stockholders seriously.)
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« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2022, 11:24:26 AM »

I'd give him a warning and suspend him if possible, but I'd only fire him if he kept it up.
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