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« on: December 02, 2022, 09:50:29 PM »

https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-republicans-expected-reverse-decision-153750689.html

This makes zero sense to reverse course like this , and hopefully DeSantis vetoes a repeal
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2022, 09:52:47 PM »

Iger is back and he's already racking up W's.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2022, 09:53:30 PM »


Probably because they realized the economic damage this would cause to the entire Orlando area.
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2022, 09:53:33 PM »

No it makes perfect sense OSR. This was a stunt all along, and what your party really wants is $$$ first, keeping big business satisfied second. All the railing against Disney was performative as much as Disney's own "wokeness" is. The fact is Florida and Disney have had a perfectly lucrative arrangement for decades and it was never in either side's best interest to break it.
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« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2022, 10:03:39 PM »


They wouldn't go forward with this if they didn't either have DeSantis onboard (he's going to have to moderate on this issue if he wants to sniff the White House), or else a veto-proof majority backing it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2022, 10:17:17 PM »

No it makes perfect sense OSR. This was a stunt all along, and what your party really wants is $$$ first, keeping big business satisfied second. All the railing against Disney was performative as much as Disney's own "wokeness" is. The fact is Florida and Disney have had a perfectly lucrative arrangement for decades and it was never in either side's best interest to break it.

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader he’s probably gonna have to fight Kevin McCarthy and a Republican congress to ensure his hypothetical first year of his presidency doesn’t go like Trump 17 which saw much of the agenda he ran on shelved to pursue the congressional GOP agenda .

While I support the tax reform of 17 , we don’t need any new major tax cuts and we need someone who would actually reduce the power of DC bureaucracy and you would have to fight the Congressional party to do that .

DeSantis going against Disney was an indication that he would be willing to take on powerful interests to actually be successful in passing a conservative agenda .
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« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2022, 10:22:42 PM »

Well, it was nice while it lasted.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2022, 10:22:59 PM »

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader ...

The last time I heard "transformative leader" from Republicans, was with trump.
And instead we got an Orange Clown.
DeSantis could follow in the same clown-size shoe, footsteps.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2022, 10:58:29 PM »

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader ...

The last time I heard "transformative leader" from Republicans, was with trump.
And instead we got an Orange Clown.
DeSantis could follow in the same clown-size shoe, footsteps.

Don't try to convince beep boop if anything to the concert. He's never been the most perceptive type to begin with, and now his lips are officially so fixed to disantus's ass there's no way his new Republican man crush can do any wrong in his deluded eyes.
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2022, 11:04:43 PM »

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader ...

The last time I heard "transformative leader" from Republicans, was with trump.
And instead we got an Orange Clown.
DeSantis could follow in the same clown-size shoe, footsteps.

Well there also is another Republican President who actually was a transformative president and the question is can a modern Republican be as transformative as Ronald Reagan was. Well Reagan did fight the existing party orthodoxy of the day and was able to change it and now the question is will DeSantis fight people like McCarthy, and legislative leaders of his party who want to prevent change as well.


We will see about that
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2022, 11:26:03 PM »

I can't believe a bill that essentially gave Florida residents a massive new tax burden in exchange for being able to occasionally harass the most beloved and important company in the state's tourism sector turned out to be a dud.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2022, 11:31:02 PM »

Makes sense. They cancelled The Owl House and probably promised never to say "gay" again (at least, not to the scale they had) so they could get it back.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2022, 11:55:21 PM »


Nobody tell OSR that the FLGOP purposely delayed the Reedy Creek bluster law that they passed earlier this (election) year from taking effect for a year…
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2022, 11:35:37 AM »

No it makes perfect sense OSR. This was a stunt all along, and what your party really wants is $$$ first, keeping big business satisfied second. All the railing against Disney was performative as much as Disney's own "wokeness" is. The fact is Florida and Disney have had a perfectly lucrative arrangement for decades and it was never in either side's best interest to break it.

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader he’s probably gonna have to fight Kevin McCarthy and a Republican congress to ensure his hypothetical first year of his presidency doesn’t go like Trump 17 which saw much of the agenda he ran on shelved to pursue the congressional GOP agenda .

While I support the tax reform of 17 , we don’t need any new major tax cuts and we need someone who would actually reduce the power of DC bureaucracy and you would have to fight the Congressional party to do that .

DeSantis going against Disney was an indication that he would be willing to take on powerful interests to actually be successful in passing a conservative agenda .

The last statement is true if and only if the conservative agenda is "own the libs".
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2022, 11:59:00 AM »


Are you kidding, of course it makes sense.  He already got all the good headlines for doing this, what's the point in actually doing it?  It's not actually a good thing to do.

If he was a Democrat, he would get crucified for rolling back a thing people were going gaga over.  But since he's a Republican, and the right-wing media complex wants him to win... they just won't talk about it.  Nobody will ever hear about it.

And since it wasn't a thing that was tangibly going to improve anyone's actual life, just a stupid, destructive, symbolic anti-woke gesture, nobody is actually going to be hurt from him not actually doing it, so there's nobody to complain.

It's perfect!
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2022, 11:59:45 AM »

Makes sense. They cancelled The Owl House and probably promised never to say "gay" again (at least, not to the scale they had) so they could get it back.

I guarantee you that Bob Chapek and Bob Iger probably don't even know what The Owl House is. The show was basically just doomed because it was a serialized 30-minute cartoon instead of an eleven-minute two-shorts show.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2022, 12:05:54 PM »

Makes sense. They cancelled The Owl House and probably promised never to say "gay" again (at least, not to the scale they had) so they could get it back.

I guarantee you that Bob Chapek and Bob Iger probably don't even know what The Owl House is. The show was basically just doomed because it was a serialized 30-minute cartoon instead of an eleven-minute two-shorts show.
Whatever. You're probably right, but I'm still going with my narrative.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2022, 12:22:00 PM »

At first I thought OSR comparing DeSantis to Reagan was ridiculous but then the more I thought about it comparing the “Don’t say gay” guy to the guy who deliberately let AIDS kill millions in the gay community might not be unfair
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2022, 12:27:54 PM »

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader ...

The last time I heard "transformative leader" from Republicans, was with trump.
And instead we got an Orange Clown.
DeSantis could follow in the same clown-size shoe, footsteps.

Well there also is another Republican President who actually was a transformative president and the question is can a modern Republican be as transformative as Ronald Reagan was. Well Reagan did fight the existing party orthodoxy of the day and was able to change it and now the question is will DeSantis fight people like McCarthy, and legislative leaders of his party who want to prevent change as well.


We will see about that

1970s Ronald Reagan was more progressive on "Dont Say Gay" than 2020s Ron DeSantis. It's pretty amazing actually how that's even possible, given the correct post above mine, but it is. People's positions on LGBT issues can't be expressed on a single 1D line.
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2022, 01:11:48 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2022, 01:19:22 PM »

No it makes perfect sense OSR. This was a stunt all along, and what your party really wants is $$$ first, keeping big business satisfied second. All the railing against Disney was performative as much as Disney's own "wokeness" is. The fact is Florida and Disney have had a perfectly lucrative arrangement for decades and it was never in either side's best interest to break it.

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader he’s probably gonna have to fight Kevin McCarthy and a Republican congress to ensure his hypothetical first year of his presidency doesn’t go like Trump 17 which saw much of the agenda he ran on shelved to pursue the congressional GOP agenda .

While I support the tax reform of 17 , we don’t need any new major tax cuts and we need someone who would actually reduce the power of DC bureaucracy and you would have to fight the Congressional party to do that .

DeSantis going against Disney was an indication that he would be willing to take on powerful interests to actually be successful in passing a conservative agenda .

The last statement is true if and only if the conservative agenda is "own the libs".

It’s fundamentally not conservative for the government to give any one mega corporation special privileges like this .
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2022, 01:33:29 PM »

At first I thought OSR comparing DeSantis to Reagan was ridiculous but then the more I thought about it comparing the “Don’t say gay” guy to the guy who deliberately let AIDS kill millions in the gay community might not be unfair

Reagan didn’t react any different to AIDS then the vast majority of politicians would have at the time and his actions in defeating the Briggs Amendment in California (which no Harry isn’t the same as the Florida bill ) shows he was a moderate on the issue for the time .

Also given how the vast majority of Republican governors reacted to COVID you can’t really describe Reagan’s AIDS’s response as that

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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2022, 01:35:35 PM »

No it makes perfect sense OSR. This was a stunt all along, and what your party really wants is $$$ first, keeping big business satisfied second. All the railing against Disney was performative as much as Disney's own "wokeness" is. The fact is Florida and Disney have had a perfectly lucrative arrangement for decades and it was never in either side's best interest to break it.

Well if DeSantis wants to be a transformative leader he’s probably gonna have to fight Kevin McCarthy and a Republican congress to ensure his hypothetical first year of his presidency doesn’t go like Trump 17 which saw much of the agenda he ran on shelved to pursue the congressional GOP agenda .

While I support the tax reform of 17 , we don’t need any new major tax cuts and we need someone who would actually reduce the power of DC bureaucracy and you would have to fight the Congressional party to do that .

DeSantis going against Disney was an indication that he would be willing to take on powerful interests to actually be successful in passing a conservative agenda .

The last statement is true if and only if the conservative agenda is "own the libs".

It’s fundamentally not conservative for the government to give any one mega corporation special privileges like this .
Okay but that has nothing to do with what happened, Disney got these privileges stripped for speaking out on “Don’t say gay” not because of some stand on these privileges which they are more than fine giving out as long as these companies don’t criticize their reactionary culture war policies
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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2022, 02:02:39 PM »

Briggs Amendment in California (which no Harry isn’t the same as the Florida bill )

Obviously it's not literally word-for-word the same text or anything, but the theme and purpose are the same, as is the way its received by most supporters of each.
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« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2022, 02:08:30 PM »



"We're gonna tear down Disney's wall and make Disney pay for it."
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