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« Reply #350 on: July 24, 2023, 03:17:06 PM »



Seeing a bunch of Twitter (X?) commentary that is very off base; not that I suspect anything here would be comparable, but I thought I'd head it off nevertheless. Hurtado's district is basically a bigger, and therefore less blue, CA-22; her winning her Biden+8 seat while Newsom lost it by double digits, even if the win was narrow, in 2022 was extremely impressive. Probably the best possible recruit for this seat.

I would have expected her to wait until 2026 when she’s termed out. If she wins in 2024 she’ll leave behind a Biden+8 State Senate district that’ll be very hard for Democrats to hold onto given how awful Hispanic turnout is in these types of election. Case in point, Mike Garcia 2020.
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« Reply #351 on: July 24, 2023, 03:22:57 PM »



Seeing a bunch of Twitter (X?) commentary that is very off base; not that I suspect anything here would be comparable, but I thought I'd head it off nevertheless. Hurtado's district is basically a bigger, and therefore less blue, CA-22; her winning her Biden+8 seat while Newsom lost it by double digits, even if the win was narrow, in 2022 was extremely impressive. Probably the best possible recruit for this seat.

I would have expected her to wait until 2026 when she’s termed out. If she wins in 2024 she’ll leave behind a Biden+8 State Senate district that’ll be very hard for Democrats to hold onto given how awful Hispanic turnout is in these types of election. Case in point, Mike Garcia 2020.

She’s not termed out until 2030. She probably saw 2024 as a no-risk, high-reward free shot without having to give up her seat. And probably doesn’t really care if the seat is lost in a special if she were to win the House seat.
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« Reply #352 on: July 24, 2023, 03:25:33 PM »



Seeing a bunch of Twitter (X?) commentary that is very off base; not that I suspect anything here would be comparable, but I thought I'd head it off nevertheless. Hurtado's district is basically a bigger, and therefore less blue, CA-22; her winning her Biden+8 seat while Newsom lost it by double digits, even if the win was narrow, in 2022 was extremely impressive. Probably the best possible recruit for this seat.

I would have expected her to wait until 2026 when she’s termed out. If she wins in 2024 she’ll leave behind a Biden+8 State Senate district that’ll be very hard for Democrats to hold onto given how awful Hispanic turnout is in these types of election. Case in point, Mike Garcia 2020.

She’s not termed out until 2030. She probably saw 2024 as a no-risk, high-reward free shot without having to give up her seat. And probably doesn’t really care if the seat is lost in a special if she were to win the House seat.

That was my mistake. I thought California term limits were 8 years, not 12.
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« Reply #353 on: July 25, 2023, 08:55:48 PM »



Though it should be noted that a lot of times, primary internals can be very unreliable.

I support Liz and the inevitable Whitmer family political dynasty.
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« Reply #354 on: July 26, 2023, 08:08:25 AM »



Local State Rep. running in the highly competitive PA-07
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« Reply #355 on: July 29, 2023, 12:25:47 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2023, 12:30:38 PM by Roll Roons »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/29/steve-womack-arkansas-considers-retirement/

Rep. Steve Womack (AR-03) considering retirement. This district is Safe R in 2024, but is potentially worth watching as a sleeper further down the road.
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« Reply #356 on: July 29, 2023, 01:32:26 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/29/steve-womack-arkansas-considers-retirement/

Rep. Steve Womack (AR-03) considering retirement. This district is Safe R in 2024, but is potentially worth watching as a sleeper further down the road.

Too bad Sad  Womack always seemed like one of the saner folks in the Caucus and at least someone whose natural instincts were more inclined towards actually governing.  I mean, he’s still a House Republican, but you can work with folks like that.
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« Reply #357 on: July 29, 2023, 02:00:38 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/29/steve-womack-arkansas-considers-retirement/

Rep. Steve Womack (AR-03) considering retirement. This district is Safe R in 2024, but is potentially worth watching as a sleeper further down the road.

Even with Washington County becoming a new swing county, seems like the rest of the district  isn’t really making any discernible trends blue. Kind of like how there’s a few random blue trending counties in MD-01 like Talbot, but that’s not going to ever result in it flipping unless they gerrymander the district.
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« Reply #358 on: July 30, 2023, 09:30:39 AM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/29/steve-womack-arkansas-considers-retirement/

Rep. Steve Womack (AR-03) considering retirement. This district is Safe R in 2024, but is potentially worth watching as a sleeper further down the road.

Too bad Sad  Womack always seemed like one of the saner folks in the Caucus and at least someone whose natural instincts were more inclined towards actually governing.  I mean, he’s still a House Republican, but you can work with folks like that.

Never mind:
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« Reply #359 on: July 31, 2023, 04:20:18 PM »



Aside from WV and PA, these are generally fair.
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« Reply #360 on: July 31, 2023, 07:50:20 PM »


Aside from WV and PA, these are generally fair.

West Virginia is much more likely to be competitive than Texas? Who pays for this garbage
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« Reply #361 on: August 01, 2023, 08:38:14 AM »

And why is PA "Tilt D" while WI/MI are "Lean D"?
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« Reply #362 on: August 01, 2023, 03:36:05 PM »

Inside Elections continues to be the worst among the prognosticators. There may exist a universe in which Pennsylvania is only Tilt D, and perhaps I can create a fictional universe in which West Virginia is Tilt R, but there is no universe in which both are true.
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« Reply #363 on: August 01, 2023, 05:38:57 PM »
« Edited: August 02, 2023, 05:18:36 PM by Dr Oz Lost Party! »

For the love of God, Pennsylvania is not "Tilt D" and it's certainly not more likely to flip than open seat Michigan. Did they somehow miss the news that Casey is running?

It seems like prognosticators this cycle have been unusually bearish on Casey's chances for some unknown, bizarre reason. The guy has literally never won an election by less than 9 points and the Republicans don't have a viable candidate. There is no realistic scenario in which he loses, and any rating that puts the race anywhere less than Likely D should be discarded and ignored.
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« Reply #364 on: August 01, 2023, 06:31:16 PM »

I'll echo the above. Even if Trump wins PA, it's not hard to see Casey run at least a few points ahead of the top of the ticket. Pennsylvania is the most deserving on that list to be in the Likely category except perhaps WV.
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« Reply #365 on: August 02, 2023, 02:21:42 AM »

I'll echo the above. Even if Trump wins PA, it's not hard to see Casey run at least a few points ahead of the top of the ticket. Pennsylvania is the most deserving on that list to be in the Likely category except perhaps WV.

With this latest indictment it’s more likely Trump isn’t the nominee than it is that he wins Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #366 on: August 02, 2023, 03:19:58 AM »

LIKELY D AZ, OH
Tossup MT and TX
Competetive MO, TN AND FL
LEAN R WV

Balance of power 49 tie MT and TX tossup
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« Reply #367 on: August 03, 2023, 09:12:07 AM »

It's official:
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« Reply #368 on: August 05, 2023, 11:01:15 AM »

Expect to see Democrats try to meddle in this primary.

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« Reply #369 on: August 05, 2023, 02:31:27 PM »

Expect to see Democrats try to meddle in this primary.



Mwahahahaha 😈
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« Reply #370 on: August 07, 2023, 11:39:48 AM »

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« Reply #371 on: August 07, 2023, 02:38:56 PM »

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« Reply #372 on: August 09, 2023, 10:36:56 AM »

Interesting memo from the CLF: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2023/08/08/CLF_2023_Summer_Memo.pdf

It acknowledges that the path to the House majority for both parties runs through deep blue states. Given the large number of competitive seats in CA and NY, plus more in others like NJ, OR, WA, this is definitely true.
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« Reply #373 on: August 09, 2023, 11:26:43 AM »

Interesting memo from the CLF: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2023/08/08/CLF_2023_Summer_Memo.pdf

It acknowledges that the path to the House majority for both parties runs through deep blue states. Given the large number of competitive seats in CA and NY, plus more in others like NJ, OR, WA, this is definitely true.

Their section on PA (Wild and Cartwright) is just demonstrably false.
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« Reply #374 on: August 09, 2023, 11:40:09 AM »

Interesting memo from the CLF: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/2023/08/08/CLF_2023_Summer_Memo.pdf

It acknowledges that the path to the House majority for both parties runs through deep blue states. Given the large number of competitive seats in CA and NY, plus more in others like NJ, OR, WA, this is definitely true.

Their section on PA (Wild and Cartwright) is just demonstrably false.

Neither of them are DOA but they are certainly not safe and Biden won't win PA by nearly as much as Shapiro did.
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