NJ-SEN 2024: Draggin' The Line (3/24: Murphy OUT)
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« Reply #950 on: March 30, 2024, 01:48:16 PM »

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« Reply #951 on: March 30, 2024, 02:14:14 PM »

This is the Murphy endorsements all over again.
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« Reply #952 on: March 30, 2024, 05:21:31 PM »

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« Reply #953 on: March 30, 2024, 05:26:52 PM »

lol this is going to be a logistical nightmare…
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« Reply #954 on: March 30, 2024, 05:39:41 PM »

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« Reply #955 on: March 30, 2024, 08:47:34 PM »


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« Reply #956 on: March 31, 2024, 11:44:48 AM »


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« Reply #957 on: March 31, 2024, 09:06:06 PM »


Conservative NJ Republicans now preparing an anti-Line lawsuit to apply to them too:


Building on the success of the Kim suit, wouldn't a similar suit filed by Republicans be equally successful? After all, a precedent was just set last Friday.

And in fact, the America First Republicans of New Jersey, a MAGA group, says it plans to do just that.

Mike Crispi, the co-chair, said in a statement that his group already has recruited several plaintiffs and he invited "any Republican candidate, committee, and PAC who wants to see the constitutional rights of New Jersey Republicans protected as much as the Democrats" to join the action.

Isn't bipartisanship great?

Trump Republicans and liberal Democrats on the same team.
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« Reply #958 on: March 31, 2024, 10:50:08 PM »

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« Reply #959 on: April 01, 2024, 02:17:02 PM »

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« Reply #960 on: April 01, 2024, 02:38:35 PM »


Meanwhile, the GOP case was DOA, so Bashaw & Serrano Glasner are stuck with Lines:

https://newjerseyglobe.com/judiciary/albert-harshaw-attempts-to-appeal-county-line-decision-and-is-rejected/

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(I)n a terse order, Quraishi said Harshaw "is a non-party to the lawsuit and therefore has no standing to pursue an appeal of the decision in this matter. Moreover, the deadline to move to intervene as to the motion for preliminary injunction has passed. Therefore, the arguments presented will not be considered by this Court."

Quraishi left the door open to Harshaw joining a longer-term lawsuit against the county line which has been going on since 2020; that suit aims to completely abolish the line rather than simply suspend it for this year, as the preliminary injunction filed by Rep. Andy Kim (D-Moorestown) and two others did.
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« Reply #961 on: April 01, 2024, 03:38:50 PM »

https://twitter.com/danieljhan_/status/1774873676187328589

Meanwhile, the GOP case was DOA, so Bashaw & Serrano Glasner are stuck with Lines:

https://newjerseyglobe.com/judiciary/albert-harshaw-attempts-to-appeal-county-line-decision-and-is-rejected/

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(I)n a terse order, Quraishi said Harshaw "is a non-party to the lawsuit and therefore has no standing to pursue an appeal of the decision in this matter. Moreover, the deadline to move to intervene as to the motion for preliminary injunction has passed. Therefore, the arguments presented will not be considered by this Court."

Quraishi left the door open to Harshaw joining a longer-term lawsuit against the county line which has been going on since 2020; that suit aims to completely abolish the line rather than simply suspend it for this year, as the preliminary injunction filed by Rep. Andy Kim (D-Moorestown) and two others did.

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« Reply #962 on: April 01, 2024, 03:57:35 PM »

Does anyone have some inside knowledge on the state of the GOP primary? Bashaw obviously has more lines but neither seem that attractive to the GOP base. It doesn’t matter with Kim at the topic of the ticket, but with Murphy the primary could’ve been impactful.
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« Reply #963 on: April 01, 2024, 04:19:21 PM »

An interesting observation is how the post 2016 Democratic party grassroots revival, especially in NJ, might have changed things in a way that some people still don't realise; my impression is that NJ was very much in the top 5 states where suddenly a lot of people who were life-long liberals/progressives etc realised they needed to get involved; it had a number of competitive house races etc.

This ofc also happens on a national level and while we joke about resistance wine mums there is certainly a type and a profile, and this energy went straight to Kim.

And this race was basically created for this; deeply unpopular sitting incumbent faces trial, wife of sitting Governor (who is an ex party finance chair) essentially tries to muscle the nomination away from the plucky grassroots congressman
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« Reply #964 on: April 01, 2024, 06:28:31 PM »

An interesting observation is how the post 2016 Democratic party grassroots revival, especially in NJ, might have changed things in a way that some people still don't realise; my impression is that NJ was very much in the top 5 states where suddenly a lot of people who were life-long liberals/progressives etc realised they needed to get involved; it had a number of competitive house races etc.

This ofc also happens on a national level and while we joke about resistance wine mums there is certainly a type and a profile, and this energy went straight to Kim.

And this race was basically created for this; deeply unpopular sitting incumbent faces trial, wife of sitting Governor (who is an ex party finance chair) essentially tries to muscle the nomination away from the plucky grassroots congressman

Your impressions about NJ are mostly correct.

There's a lot of people in New Jersey who were either apolitical or moderate/centrist Republicans who were completely alienated by the rise of Trump and the 2016 election. These people - college educated, white collar, living in dense, transit-centric suburbs - now by and large vote Democratic, and some have gotten involved in Democratic politics in ways they'd never have imagined 10 or 15 years ago.

But even though they are nominally Democratic, they still dislike the NJ Democratic machine, which entices them to a reform candidate who knows how to win moderate Republicans like Kim.
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« Reply #965 on: April 01, 2024, 07:34:28 PM »

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« Reply #966 on: April 01, 2024, 08:34:47 PM »

Does anyone have some inside knowledge on the state of the GOP primary? Bashaw obviously has more lines but neither seem that attractive to the GOP base. It doesn’t matter with Kim at the topic of the ticket, but with Murphy the primary could’ve been impactful.

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« Reply #967 on: April 02, 2024, 03:30:24 PM »

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« Reply #968 on: April 03, 2024, 02:09:58 PM »

The Line is dead, long live office-block ballots:

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« Reply #969 on: April 03, 2024, 06:16:33 PM »
« Edited: April 03, 2024, 06:26:26 PM by brucejoel99 »



Clerks beginning to move on from the denial stage of grief & straight into acceptance:

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« Reply #970 on: April 03, 2024, 06:34:20 PM »

I'm still holding to Indy Bob ultimately going nowhere, it's just so foreseeable:

Assuming Menendez follows through, the landscape for the Senate race this fall will be either Andy Kim or Tammy Murphy on the Democratic ticket, a Republican and then, the "independent" Menendez, who is really a Democrat.

Wisdom suggests whatever votes the embattled incumbent gets will come from Democrats, which has to help Republicans.

And Lord knows, they need the help, given the fact it's been more than 50 years since Republicans have won a U.S. Senate seat in New Jersey. And that was Clifford Case, the type of Republican who would be labeled a "RINO" today.

Moving back to 2024, "wisdom" aside, it's worth wondering just how stellar of a candidate Menendez is going to be?

Watch political races for a while and you discover that independents always "poll better" than they actually do. That was true years ago with Ross Perot nationally and more recently (in 2009) when Chris Daggett ran as an independent for governor. He was well received during the campaign, but was no factor at all when voters actually went to the polls. Daggett got a bit less than 6 percent.

Already, some have suggested that Menendez may draw from Latino voters. That seems a bit insulting, no?

Many different ethnic groups make up the so-called bloc of Latino voters and they all don't think a lot. Moreover, let's not assume Latinos are going to back an ethically-challenged politician just because he's named Menendez.

This brings us to the senator's social media video announcing his run as an independent.

The gist of it was that he plans to be "in the clear" a few months before Election Day.

"I am hopeful that my exoneration will take place this summer," he says.

The trial is scheduled to begin in early May, so it's possible it can be over by July.

Of course, the senator is banking on being found "not guilty." Anything can happen at trial, but to any objective observer, the allegations about Menendez having oodles of cash hidden in his house, plus the infamous gold bars, seems pretty damning.

One must also ask, "Why?"

Why does Menendez want to run as an independent? On one hand, it's an acknowledgement that he has no chance to get the Democratic nomination.

On the other, he may truly think he's not guilty and may not care at all if his entry into the race hurts his fellow Democrats – even in a small way.

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« Reply #971 on: April 03, 2024, 11:35:36 PM »

Clerks beginning to move on from the denial stage of grief & straight into acceptance:

Yup. They realized that the longer this goes on, the harder their jobs are.
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« Reply #972 on: April 04, 2024, 08:26:19 AM »

Clerks beginning to move on from the denial stage of grief & straight into acceptance:

Yup. They realized that the longer this goes on, the harder their jobs are.

Yep:

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« Reply #973 on: April 04, 2024, 12:03:38 PM »

Gd:

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« Reply #974 on: April 04, 2024, 01:44:31 PM »

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