California Senate 2024 - Schiff (D) vs Garvey (R)

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Thank God my home state is finally getting some fresh leadership; I'd go with Porter but California has a great bench of amazing Progressive and Left-wing leaders coming up.

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All the way with Katie Porter, in fact I'm gonna go make a donation to her campaign right now.

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All the way with Katie Porter, in fact I'm gonna go make a donation to her campaign right now.

This will be her advantage. TBD if out of state donations transform into in-state votes though

I made a $20 donation, I suppose after making dual donations to Warnock & Ossoff in 20 and to Warnock in 22 and having it work out I may as well try my hand at my predictive powers with Porter. 

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All the way with Katie Porter, in fact I'm gonna go make a donation to her campaign right now.

This will be her advantage. TBD if out of state donations transform into in-state votes though

I made a $20 donation, I suppose after making dual donations to Warnock & Ossoff in 20 and to Warnock in 22 and having it work out I may as well try my hand at my predictive powers with Porter.  

I still don't think it's going to translate as well as she thinks it does. Out of state dollars don't correspond to anybody's vote here in California though.

I mean I was born, raised and regularly spent many intervals of my adult life in California and have a ton of family and friends there so while I can't vote there anymore I wouldn't say my finger is entirely off the pulse of California (Bay Area) voters.

We shall see as the race develops though, certainly gonna be one of the most interesting elections of the cycle.

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Khanna is a cuck if his only reason for not running is that Lee would be a black woman in the senate, there’s no Asian men either meaning he should run

I think if I understood what this means, I would probably find it offensive

All the way with Katie Porter, in fact I'm gonna go make a donation to her campaign right now.

This will be her advantage. TBD if out of state donations transform into in-state votes though

I made a $20 donation, I suppose after making dual donations to Warnock & Ossoff in 20 and to Warnock in 22 and having it work out I may as well try my hand at my predictive powers with Porter.  

I still don't think it's going to translate as well as she thinks it does. Out of state dollars don't correspond to anybody's vote here in California though.

I mean I was born, raised and regularly spent many intervals of my adult life in California and have a ton of family and friends there so while I can't vote there anymore I wouldn't say my finger is entirely off the pulse of California (Bay Area) voters.

We shall see as the race develops though, certainly gonna be one of the most interesting elections of the cycle.

May I ask your racial and/or ethnic background?

Because tbh that's a question of great importance. Our v white entertainment and v white tech industries are here, so most images people are exposed to of CA are of ppl like me: blond, blue eyed medium-leftists who listen to NPR and read the news every morning. I have said and will say again that among my demographic, white gay guys (which is btw a numerically v large number of primary voters) Katie is prolly gonna perform well.

But she will have lots of competition among white people, and the battleline there are pretty hardened. White leftists go with Lee, liberals with Porter, and the apparently millions of people who care what Nancy Pelosi thinke with Adam Schiff.

Same with African Americans. A decent number will vote for Schiff because of ideological anti-leftism, but Barbara Lee is gonna win 90%+

What it will come down to is East and South Asian Americans (who Porter has ties with and demonstrated ability to win, I'll give her that), West Asian Americans like Iranians and Armenians, who Schiff has a similar relationship with buttttttt also lean pretty left as a constituency, and, more importantly, Latinos, who comprise a large part of Adam Schiff's district but I think are v up for grabs and poised to be kingmakers here. Most Latino friends I've spoken to thus far have only one opinion rly: f*** DiFi and who cares lol

Oh I absolutely agree with you that my pulse is probably among my demographic group which is middle-class, white, gay men. So like you said, I'm sure Porter is gonna floor it with that group considering she's a strong, progressive, female which gay men tend to have an affinity for, at least in my experience.

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Personally I'm leaning towards Porter, Lee, Schiff with quite a decent amount of space between my preferences for each of those candidates. Glad to see Porter with very strong favorables though and I'm definitely getting the feeling that this forum is underestimating her.

We obviously need more polls to come out before we know the lay of the land, but all the data that's come out so far has been very favorable for the Porter campaign.

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Porter's a Progressive Caucus member, but I'd still be called a blue dog conservadem here for voting for her these days.

I'm definitely not a 'blue dog' or a Conservative of any kind but I'm all in for Porter.

I don't hate Barbara Lee, in fact I have a lot of respect for her career but Katie Porter is a solid Progressive, comes from a younger generation and will be able to build up a name for herself to possibly even make higher aspirations one day.

Schiff is a non-starter.

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I won't lie that Porter's comments regarding Netanyahu were extremely tone-deaf; albeit I'm going to wait to see how she responds before I consider dropping my endorsement. It's a big fluke, especially considering how much research she claimed to do beforehand, but not realizing that Netanyahu is a toxic sludge monster as far as politicians go for Progressives and 'democracy lovers' anywhere in the world.

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I won't lie that Porter's comments regarding Netanyahu were extremely tone-deaf; albeit I'm going to wait to see how she responds before I consider dropping my endorsement. It's a big fluke, especially considering how much research she claimed to do beforehand, but not realizing that Netanyahu is a toxic sludge monster as far as politicians go for Progressives and 'democracy lovers' anywhere in the world.

She focused on domestic issues, so it's possible she had the views that make most of America 'Pro-Israel'- that Israel is the most liberal country/democracy in the middle east, and they don't stone gay people, which makes them good.

It's dumb to any of us who have spent time studying the issue, but the average voter doesn't do that.

But Katie Porter obviously isn't and shouldn't be your 'average voter' and while that's true (who knows for how long, with the way things are going) you have to be incredibly tone-deaf to applaud Netanyahu on court reform right now, and I'm ofc assuming ignorance but still...

Any way, just disappointed in a politician whose career I've been following for years and genuinely like... And I still do, this doesn't just wipe away all of that, but it's worth criticizing and I hope she hears her critics out.

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I've decided to drop my endorsement of Katie Porter after further reflection and research into past questions about her naivety, which is me wanting to assume the best, regarding right-wing Israeli groups and without any response to the criticism she received for her most recent trip.

I still like Katie and I won't necessarily be rooting agains her but I won't be making any further donations to her campaign. I'm not sure if I'll switch to Barbara Lee officially but I'm certainly keeping an eye on how the race develops and fwiw it's a shame that I don't believe any debates are scheduled.

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Even as someone who's been leaning towards supporting Lee after Porter's AIPAC blunder, this is a definite Newsom W. With such a competitive primary, he shouldn't be tipping the scales like that.

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https://twitter.com/BarbaraLeeForCA/status/1704269965871005871?s=20

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I said it a couple months ago, and I'll say it again, a debate would be immensely useful in this situation and it's a shame there isn't going to be one, and there hasn't even been much pressure to hold one. Does it have to do with the jungle primary or something? I know even De Leon and Feinstein had one debate afaik.

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https://twitter.com/BarbaraLeeForCA/status/1720938804859818065?s=20
In case it wasn't clear before, and I do realize this isn't necessarily a new development but Lee's unequivocally got my support and I've gotta assume whatever progressive grassroots support Porter had is going to be tenuous at best going forward.

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https://twitter.com/BarbaraLeeForCA/status/1720938804859818065?s=20
In case it wasn't clear before, and I do realize this isn't necessarily a new development but Lee's unequivocally got my support and I've gotta assume whatever progressive grassroots support Porter had is going to be tenuous at best going forward.

Absolutely surreal that "progressive grassroots" would suddenly dump a solid progressive advocate who's been one of the most effective voices in taking the billionaire class to task just because of inane litmus tests on Muh Conflict. If that happens, all lefties will have proved is how myopic and self-sabotaging they really are.

Eh, this is one of the biggest issues of the moment, so yes, among this field I would say that the Progressive base in particular are looking for policies that differentiate the candidates. Did I say anything about Porter being primaried, ostracized or in any way even having her influence reduced, especially in areas of finance and banking in which she's been extremely effective? No. But the "progressive grassroots" has every right to not support her bid for Senate, she isn't owed their support certainly, so I'm a bit lost as to the reason for your post.

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https://twitter.com/BarbaraLeeForCA/status/1720938804859818065?s=20
In case it wasn't clear before, and I do realize this isn't necessarily a new development but Lee's unequivocally got my support and I've gotta assume whatever progressive grassroots support Porter had is going to be tenuous at best going forward.

Absolutely surreal that "progressive grassroots" would suddenly dump a solid progressive advocate who's been one of the most effective voices in taking the billionaire class to task just because of inane litmus tests on Muh Conflict. If that happens, all lefties will have proved is how myopic and self-sabotaging they really are.

Eh, this is one of the biggest issues of the moment, so yes, among this field I would say that the Progressive base in particular are looking for policies that differentiate the candidates. Did I say anything about Porter being primaried, ostracized or in any way even having her influence reduced, especially in areas of finance and banking in which she's been extremely effective? No. But the "progressive grassroots" has every right to not support her bid for Senate, she isn't owed their support certainly, so I'm a bit lost as to the reason for your post.

People have the right to support or not support whoever they want, but I'm going to call them myopic if they end up thumbing their nose at someone who would support their cause on 95% of actually actionable issues because she doesn't toe their preferred line on a largely symbolic one. If Lee was 30 years younger and capable of winning a D vs D runoff I guess I wouldn't mind people picking her over Porter based on this one issue, but those seem like pretty important differences here, certainly more so than their positions on a regional conflict the US has increasingly little influence over.

I'll be honest, as a native born Californian... This is the one state in which I'm just not chuffed for political talent or having a decent bench of progressive candidates. We'll always have that here, so I'd argue this is exactly where we can more than afford to be picky. You're really just cutting straws for your, I presume, preferred candidate.

If it becomes Schiff v. Porter and Lee supporters abstain or something then we can revisit this.

But hey, I say all this as someone who had a Katie Porter signature a few months back. The AIPAC stuff really did bother me, even before all this other stuff broke out, so...