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« Reply #700 on: May 19, 2023, 11:39:14 AM »





One of the most revolting exploitations of identity politics I've ever seen. This wasn't sexism and these elder abusing f**king crooks know it's not sexism.

The oligarchy is alive and well in San Francisco. But I’m sure that this has nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi trying to preserve her class’s power at the expense of the progressive ideals she claims. After all it’s her opponents who are so sexist that they are trying to get someone reported by Vox to have Alzheimer’s almost a decade ago out of the senate.

Nancy Pelosi is easily the most corrupt, evil, corporate tool of a democrat and once again it shows

But that oligarchy usually props up local candidates at the expense of LA. The Machine is very much a Bay Area machine.

It's not that simple. Pelosi isn't a Sacramento politician and has no strong connections to California politics. She's backing Schiff because of her House connections, the same reason she was for Joe Kennedy.
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« Reply #701 on: May 19, 2023, 01:19:38 PM »





One of the most revolting exploitations of identity politics I've ever seen. This wasn't sexism and these elder abusing f**king crooks know it's not sexism.

The oligarchy is alive and well in San Francisco. But I’m sure that this has nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi trying to preserve her class’s power at the expense of the progressive ideals she claims. After all it’s her opponents who are so sexist that they are trying to get someone reported by Vox to have Alzheimer’s almost a decade ago out of the senate.

Nancy Pelosi is easily the most corrupt, evil, corporate tool of a democrat and once again it shows

But that oligarchy usually props up local candidates at the expense of LA. The Machine is very much a Bay Area machine.

The SF machine is behind Barbara Lee, but that doesn’t mean much when their donors aren’t.


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« Reply #702 on: May 19, 2023, 01:52:49 PM »
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One of the most revolting exploitations of identity politics I've ever seen. This wasn't sexism and these elder abusing f**king crooks know it's not sexism.

The oligarchy is alive and well in San Francisco. But I’m sure that this has nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi trying to preserve her class’s power at the expense of the progressive ideals she claims. After all it’s her opponents who are so sexist that they are trying to get someone reported by Vox to have Alzheimer’s almost a decade ago out of the senate.

Nancy Pelosi is easily the most corrupt, evil, corporate tool of a democrat and once again it shows

But that oligarchy usually props up local candidates at the expense of LA. The Machine is very much a Bay Area machine.

It's not that simple. Pelosi isn't a Sacramento politician and has no strong connections to California politics. She's backing Schiff because of her House connections, the same reason she was for Joe Kennedy.

I doubt that this is comparable to Kennedy, given her lack of support for candidates like Conor Lamb or Colleen Hanabusa in their contested primaries. The only other example of Pelosi intervening in any other Senate primary is Ben Ray Lujan - a strong ally in Pelosi's personal inner circle.

I think you mostly have it right, but it's very clear in retrospect that she endorsed Kennedy because Markey was getting too close to the Squad.
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« Reply #703 on: May 19, 2023, 04:38:10 PM »



I doubt that this is comparable to Kennedy, given her lack of support for candidates like Conor Lamb or Colleen Hanabusa in their contested primaries. The only other example of Pelosi intervening in any other Senate primary is Ben Ray Lujan - a strong ally in Pelosi's personal inner circle.

I think you mostly have it right, but it's very clear in retrospect that she endorsed Kennedy because Markey was getting too close to the Squad.

She's hostile to socialism, and it's pretty well-documented. She is so neoliberal she thinks that members of Congress have a literal right to invest in the stock market. She's an ideologue on this issue. And I'm sure it has nothing to do with her own obscene wealth and privilege
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« Reply #704 on: May 19, 2023, 05:24:26 PM »

Will a CAGOP endorsement unite the GOP in the primary? The GOP making it past the primary would make the fundraising less expensive in California.
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« Reply #705 on: May 20, 2023, 12:40:39 AM »



I doubt that this is comparable to Kennedy, given her lack of support for candidates like Conor Lamb or Colleen Hanabusa in their contested primaries. The only other example of Pelosi intervening in any other Senate primary is Ben Ray Lujan - a strong ally in Pelosi's personal inner circle.

I think you mostly have it right, but it's very clear in retrospect that she endorsed Kennedy because Markey was getting too close to the Squad.

She's hostile to socialism, and it's pretty well-documented. She is so neoliberal she thinks that members of Congress have a literal right to invest in the stock market. She's an ideologue on this issue. And I'm sure it has nothing to do with her own obscene wealth and privilege

Her husband is a hedge fund manager who massively outperforms the rest of the industry on returns.
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« Reply #706 on: May 23, 2023, 06:05:46 PM »

Apparently there's been some idle speculation about Oprah being appointed to the Senate if Feinstein is unable to finish the term.

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Among the many plot lines in the Dianne Feinstein saga is Gov. Gavin Newsom's pledge to appoint a Black woman to replace the 89-year-old should a vacancy arise before her term expires in January 2025.


He made that promise during his 2021 anti-recall campaign, and a new article from the Associated Press' Michael R. Blood conveys the extent to which the governor may have boxed himself in. While many Black Democrats expect the governor to follow through on his pledge, the two candidates who seemed the most likely at the time of the pledge — Reps. Barbara Lee and Karen Bass — may no longer be options. Lee is running against Rep. Adam Schiff to succeed Feinstein, so Newsom may want to avoid tilting the scales in that race. Meanwhile, Bass just began her tenure as mayor of Los Angeles.

That leaves the “caretaker” route, in which Newsom appoints someone who doesn't enter the Senate race, and the Associated Press story provided just one name that has been “floated in California circles” as a caretaker pick: celebrity talk show host Oprah Winfrey.
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« Reply #707 on: May 24, 2023, 10:29:52 AM »

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« Reply #708 on: May 24, 2023, 10:46:25 AM »



Slightly misleading. Those numbers are after "positive" candidate biographies were presented. Here are the numbers prior to that info:

Early - 27%
Porter - 24%
Schiff - 21%
Lee - 11% (!!!)
Other/undecided - 17%

Those other numbers, coupled with the fact that this is a Lee internal, lead me to believe that the campaign is pretty desperate to spin this result as a positive, despite the fact that even a 9 point swing doesn't even get her out of 4th place.

Then again, this is just one poll.
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« Reply #709 on: May 24, 2023, 10:47:55 AM »

Is Eric Early the top Republican?
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« Reply #710 on: May 24, 2023, 11:40:58 AM »



Slightly misleading. Those numbers are after "positive" candidate biographies were presented. Here are the numbers prior to that info:

Early - 27%
Porter - 24%
Schiff - 21%
Lee - 11% (!!!)
Other/undecided - 17%

Those other numbers, coupled with the fact that this is a Lee internal, lead me to believe that the campaign is pretty desperate to spin this result as a positive, despite the fact that even a 9 point swing doesn't even get her out of 4th place.

Then again, this is just one poll.

The real argument to be made is that Schiff and Porter are at their ceilings whereas Lee has actual room to gain. A candidate's vote share not moving after bios is genuinely a very bad sign, as the post-bio vote tends to be the most predictive of the actual final outcome (this is all relative though, polls are of course only snapshots in time).
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« Reply #711 on: May 24, 2023, 12:16:10 PM »



Slightly misleading. Those numbers are after "positive" candidate biographies were presented. Here are the numbers prior to that info:

Early - 27%
Porter - 24%
Schiff - 21%
Lee - 11% (!!!)
Other/undecided - 17%

Those other numbers, coupled with the fact that this is a Lee internal, lead me to believe that the campaign is pretty desperate to spin this result as a positive, despite the fact that even a 9 point swing doesn't even get her out of 4th place.

Then again, this is just one poll.

The real argument to be made is that Schiff and Porter are at their ceilings whereas Lee has actual room to gain. A candidate's vote share not moving after bios is genuinely a very bad sign, as the post-bio vote tends to be the most predictive of the actual final outcome (this is all relative though, polls are of course only snapshots in time).

What are you, some kind of poll expert or something? Wink
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« Reply #712 on: May 24, 2023, 12:21:49 PM »

It's a runoff anyways
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« Reply #713 on: May 24, 2023, 01:05:07 PM »



Slightly misleading. Those numbers are after "positive" candidate biographies were presented. Here are the numbers prior to that info:

Early - 27%
Porter - 24%
Schiff - 21%
Lee - 11% (!!!)
Other/undecided - 17%

Those other numbers, coupled with the fact that this is a Lee internal, lead me to believe that the campaign is pretty desperate to spin this result as a positive, despite the fact that even a 9 point swing doesn't even get her out of 4th place.

Then again, this is just one poll.




Me, the only (open) Porter Stan on the entire Website after seeing her leading the first true poll to Schiff and Lee stans after being told over and over that she’s DOA:

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« Reply #714 on: May 24, 2023, 01:10:21 PM »

Three serious Democrats might make the runoff D vs R.
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« Reply #715 on: May 24, 2023, 02:46:06 PM »
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Slightly misleading. Those numbers are after "positive" candidate biographies were presented. Here are the numbers prior to that info:

Early - 27%
Porter - 24%
Schiff - 21%
Lee - 11% (!!!)
Other/undecided - 17%

Those other numbers, coupled with the fact that this is a Lee internal, lead me to believe that the campaign is pretty desperate to spin this result as a positive, despite the fact that even a 9 point swing doesn't even get her out of 4th place.

Then again, this is just one poll.




Me, the only (open) Porter Stan on the entire Website after seeing her leading the first true poll to Schiff and Lee stans after being told over and over that she’s DOA:

/snip

I'm not gonna get ahead of myself just yet. However, as someone who's grown really bored of this thread transforming into a Lee lovefest, I'd be lying if I said I didn't crack a smile at those numbers
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« Reply #716 on: May 24, 2023, 03:27:34 PM »

Early only did so well in that poll because he was the only Republican candidate included. Right now there are 6 declared candidates including Early. I expect Early to do the best of the declared candidates and likely anyone else that gets in unless there is a former house or state rep. Early ran for statewide office twice now and gotten 15% of the vote both times so he will have the name rec. If Larry Elder endorses him again it'll help him as well in consolidating the R vote. As of right now Bradley and Early are the two Rs id expect to do the best.
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« Reply #717 on: May 24, 2023, 09:50:57 PM »

Larry Elder endorsed Eric Early in the 2022 California AG primary. I wouldn't be surprised if Early is endorsed again.
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« Reply #718 on: May 25, 2023, 08:59:12 AM »

A plurality wants DiFi to step down early.

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« Reply #719 on: May 25, 2023, 09:17:57 AM »

A plurality wants DiFi to step down early.



I wonder if Nancy Pelosi thinks 52% of California Democrats are misogynists.
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« Reply #720 on: May 25, 2023, 09:45:14 AM »

A plurality wants DiFi to step down early.



I wonder if Nancy Pelosi thinks 52% of California Democrats are misogynists.

She isn’t making that statement out of personal beliefs; she’s using it as a cover for Feinstein to stay on in order to increase the chances of her preferred candidate (Schiff) winning the upcoming election.
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« Reply #721 on: May 25, 2023, 09:51:45 AM »

A plurality wants DiFi to step down early.



I wonder if Nancy Pelosi thinks 52% of California Democrats are misogynists.

She isn’t making that statement out of personal beliefs; she’s using it as a cover for Feinstein to stay on in order to increase the chances of her preferred candidate (Schiff) winning the upcoming election.

Yeah but one would have to imply the other, right? She would never say the quiet part loud is what I'm saying.
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« Reply #722 on: May 25, 2023, 09:52:09 AM »

Every serious Democratic candidate supports court packing. Does it even matter who wins?
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« Reply #723 on: May 25, 2023, 09:53:32 AM »

Every serious Democratic candidate supports court packing. Does it even matter who wins?

Court packing isn't going to happen and Dems shouldn't even waste any focus on the issue.
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« Reply #724 on: May 25, 2023, 09:54:45 AM »

Every serious Democratic candidate supports court packing. Does it even matter who wins?

Court packing isn't going to happen and Dems shouldn't even waste any focus on the issue.

If anything talking about Court Packing would be a real pain in the fanny for Democrats.
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