Rank competent state parties on each side

[David Hume]

Criterions:
1, being able to win elections.
2, push through policies that benefits them, especially in the long term.

My list:
GOP:
1, NY
Managed to control the Senate all the way till 2018.
Made a deal with NYDems to gerrymander their own houses, which is extremely beneficial to them.
Almost always overperform at congressional and state level.
Made a deal to get a commission to draw the map, when their Senate control would be in problem in the near future.
Made a deal to get a moderately conservative Supreme Court.


2, FL
Trifecta since 1998, in a 50-50 electorate.

I think the top two is clear. I would put NY No.1 because FL may be attributed to the infamous incompetency of FLDems.


3, NC
Keep the state lean R even though the trend is against them.
Relatively good at gerrymandering. (A tradition inherited from NCDems)
Push through policies like Partisan election of justices, which benefit them significantly.


4, NH
Frequently trifecta in state that is clear to the left of the nation. NH is the only opposite trifecta in many years.


Not very familiar on the D side.

[SnowLabrador]

Maybe Maine for the Democrats? Other than not being able to beat Susan Collins, that is. Based only on its demographics, it shouldn't be a blue-leaning state, and yet it is.

[Vosem]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

[Roll Roons]

New Jersey's GOP is pretty competent. They got a very raw deal with the congressional map, but they do well at the legislative level and are good at not nominating lunatics for Senate or Governor.

[The Right Honourable Martin Brian Mulroney PC CC GOQ]

Montana might be it for the Dems, considering MT Dems' ability to run competitive in a state that is solidly Republican in Presidential elections.

[Ferguson97]

DEMS
Most competent: Michigan, Nevada
Least competent: Florida

GOP
Most competent: Florida, Wisconsin
Least competent: California

[TML]

Montana might be it for the Dems, considering MT Dems' ability to run competitive in a state that is solidly Republican in Presidential elections.

I’d be more confident about this statement 10 years ago than now. Back in the late 2000s/early 2010s, Democrats held all statewide offices except US House, but now they are down to just one statewide officeholder (Senator Jon Tester). While I wouldn’t discount the possibility of Tester holding on in 2024 (and I think the likelihood of that is higher than what some people on this forum may currently think), I’m not sure if MT Dems have sufficiently recovered from their downballot losses from 2014-2020 (during that time period, the only Democratic statewide candidates who won were those running for re-election to their existing offices, while those running for offices they hadn’t yet occupied all fell short).

[David Hume]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

Not sure about MN. They only have two year trifecta during the past 30 years, in a state that R cannot win for 50 years, even in landslide elections. And this is not due to R gerrymander -- the maps were draw by the state supreme court every time.

[pantsaregood]

3, NC
Keep the state lean R even though the trend is against them.
Relatively good at gerrymandering. (A tradition inherited from NCDems)
Push through policies like Partisan election of justices, which benefit them significantly.

I'm a little iffy on this one. NC poses a long-term risk for Republicans, but their ability to seemingly offset trends may actually be a side-effect of the Democratic Party in NC staying unusually strong compared to other southern states.

NC has trended non-Republican since 2000. Prior to 2008, NC saw some absolutely massive swings to Democrats due to urban trends. In 2008, the national environment, NC rurals, and urban areas in NC were aligned perfectly to allow Obama to win the presidency. Simply put, the NC Democrats managed to hold on to rural voters long enough for a Presidential win to fall out of it.

Following 2008, NC's trend has been absolutely glacial. While urban and suburban areas are shifting left, the Democratic base in the rural areas still had a long way to fall. Every cycle we've seen increased margins in urban/suburban NC made up for just by rural voters in NC finally defecting. The rurals are finally getting to a point where they're more aligned with the rest of the south, which could ultimately lead to issues for the Republican party in NC.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Everything is up for debate except that the worst Dem state party is FL.

[xavier110]

The AZ Dems are pretty incompetent. they are going to lose a state rep seat in a D+25 (or something) district… it’s so D that Ducey lost it in 2014/2018.

It’s just the AZ GOP is extremely dysfunctional. Ds are more or less stumbling into success.

[Lambsbread]

Pennsylvania Democrats get sh*t done even if they are often out of touch with the electorate. A lot of the party apparatus threw their support behind Conor Lamb in the primary and we see how that turned out. But they did a great job mobilizing for Fetterman in the general.

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

Most competent GOPs: Florida, North Carolina, New York, Texas, Iowa, Wisconsin
Most incompetent GOPs: Michigan, Arizona, Kansas, Missouri, Pennsylvania

Most competent Dems: Minnesota, New Mexico, Washington, Illinois, Maine, Rhode Island, (Michigan and Arizona may be heading that way depending on what happens during the next two years)
Most incompetent Dems: Florida, New York, Tennessee

[Southern Reactionary Dem]

Most competent GOPs: Florida, North Carolina, New York, Texas, Iowa, Wisconsin
Most incompetent GOPs: Michigan, Arizona, Kansas, Missouri, Pennsylvania

Most competent Dems: Minnesota, New Mexico, Washington, Illinois, Maine, Rhode Island, (Michigan and Arizona may be heading that way depending on what happens during the next two years)
Most incompetent Dems: Florida, New York, Tennessee

Essentially this

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

Not sure about MN. They only have two year trifecta during the past 30 years, in a state that R cannot win for 50 years, even in landslide elections. And this is not due to R gerrymander -- the maps were draw by the state supreme court every time.

We got a trifecta now and it's almost certainly lasting four years.

[David Hume]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

Not sure about MN. They only have two year trifecta during the past 30 years, in a state that R cannot win for 50 years, even in landslide elections. And this is not due to R gerrymander -- the maps were draw by the state supreme court every time.

We got a trifecta now and it's almost certainly lasting four years.

That's not obvious. MN state legs change hand very frequently.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

Not sure about MN. They only have two year trifecta during the past 30 years, in a state that R cannot win for 50 years, even in landslide elections. And this is not due to R gerrymander -- the maps were draw by the state supreme court every time.

We got a trifecta now and it's almost certainly lasting four years.

That's not obvious. MN state legs change hand very frequently.

The State Senate isn't up for another four years. The State House would be pretty tough for the GOP in 2024 to take with the likely Presidential numbers of key seats.

Plus the DFL has never failed to win a chamber every time Amy Klobuchar is running.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

I'd argue that Kansas could also been seen as a sort of reverse Florida in that Democratic overperformance in the state has at least as much to do with Republican screw-ups as with the KSDP's own organizational competence or appeal to the state's public.

[David Hume]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

Not sure about MN. They only have two year trifecta during the past 30 years, in a state that R cannot win for 50 years, even in landslide elections. And this is not due to R gerrymander -- the maps were draw by the state supreme court every time.

We got a trifecta now and it's almost certainly lasting four years.

That's not obvious. MN state legs change hand very frequently.

The State Senate isn't up for another four years. The State House would be pretty tough for the GOP in 2024 to take with the likely Presidential numbers of key seats.

Plus the DFL has never failed to win a chamber every time Amy Klobuchar is running.

Why they failed to flip the senate in 2018 with Klobuchar landslide?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Colorado and Minnesota have some very competent Democratic parties; Michigan seems to be headed that way, maybe. For quite Republican states with competent Democratic state parties, Alaska and Montana seem like pretty logical starts to the list. KS also deserves a place, though that place isn't first, because while indeed very very good their Democrats predictably get very cocky and overconfident every cycle.

Not sure about MN. They only have two year trifecta during the past 30 years, in a state that R cannot win for 50 years, even in landslide elections. And this is not due to R gerrymander -- the maps were draw by the state supreme court every time.

We got a trifecta now and it's almost certainly lasting four years.

That's not obvious. MN state legs change hand very frequently.

The State Senate isn't up for another four years. The State House would be pretty tough for the GOP in 2024 to take with the likely Presidential numbers of key seats.

Plus the DFL has never failed to win a chamber every time Amy Klobuchar is running.

Why they failed to flip the senate in 2018 with Klobuchar landslide?

It wasn't up. It was up in 2016 and 2020.

[David Hume]

Most competent GOPs: Florida, North Carolina, New York, Texas, Iowa, Wisconsin
Most incompetent GOPs: Michigan, Arizona, Kansas, Missouri, Pennsylvania

Most competent Dems: Minnesota, New Mexico, Washington, Illinois, Maine, Rhode Island, (Michigan and Arizona may be heading that way depending on what happens during the next two years)
Most incompetent Dems: Florida, New York, Tennessee

WIGOP managed to lose a very winnable supreme court seat in 2020, which turns out catastrophic for them. They are better than others, but I don't think at the levels of NY, FL.

IAGOP failed to override the commission to unpack IA-4, which is basically a vote sink for GOP.

WADems lost senate control in 2011-2017, that's pretty remarkable in a deep blue state with a fair map.

ILDems lost a Senator in 2010 and governor in 2014. Although they seems better now.

[Orser67]

They might not be elite, but I think PA Dems at least deserve an honorable mention after this last cycle. For all the talk of PA as a swing state, Democrats control both Senate seats, have won 5 of the last 6 gubernatorial elections, and have won 7/8 presidential elections since 1992. On the other hand, Republicans have definitely been the more successful party in state legislative elections, especially in the state senate (which they've held for all but one year since 1981).

[Schiff for Senate]

Criterions:
1, being able to win elections.
2, push through policies that benefits them, especially in the long term.

My list:
GOP:
1, NY
Managed to control the Senate all the way till 2018.
Made a deal with NYDems to gerrymander their own houses, which is extremely beneficial to them.
Almost always overperform at congressional and state level.
Made a deal to get a commission to draw the map, when their Senate control would be in problem in the near future.
Made a deal to get a moderately conservative Supreme Court.


2, FL
Trifecta since 1998, in a 50-50 electorate.

I think the top two is clear. I would put NY No.1 because FL may be attributed to the infamous incompetency of FLDems.


3, NC
Keep the state lean R even though the trend is against them.
Relatively good at gerrymandering. (A tradition inherited from NCDems)
Push through policies like Partisan election of justices, which benefit them significantly.


4, NH
Frequently trifecta in state that is clear to the left of the nation. NH is the only opposite trifecta in many years.


Not very familiar on the D side.

Uh, how, exactly? The state Supreme Court has a Democratic majority, and that court is the reason why the NCGOP’s latest gerrymander was struck down and replaced by a map that, if anything, has a slight D bias.

Rest of what you said is fair.

[David Hume]

The AZ Dems are pretty incompetent. they are going to lose a state rep seat in a D+25 (or something) district… it’s so D that Ducey lost it in 2014/2018.

It’s just the AZ GOP is extremely dysfunctional. Ds are more or less stumbling into success.

AZGOP is competing with FLDems for the worst state party right now.