Israel General Discussion: Annus Horribilis

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What are the odds that Ben Gvir brings the government down within the next 2 years? The man has higher ambitions and I don't think kahanists would hesitate to blow things up if they don't get what they want.

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Seventy-five years since the UN partition plan for Mandate Palestine. If the Arabs had accepted the plan, there would have been a Palestinian state for the past 74 years. But no, they decided to go to war instead, gambling on an all-or-nothing bet. When you gamble for all-or-nothing, and then lose, you get nothing, which is what the Palestinians now have.

Do you ever get tired of posting the same thing every single thread?

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Not sure if this is the best thread for this, but the other day I noticed that the only Druze member of the current Knesset, Hamad Amar, belongs to Yisrael Beiteinu, which sounds... unusual. Could any of the Israeli posters say something more about him? And perhaps about Druze voting patterns in general. Thanks!

I made a big effort post on minority voting results for the last election in the IE board thread.

Eilabun - 2.7k votes (Christian-Druze)
Hadash - 39.91%
Balad - 18.3%
Ra'am - 12.43%
Meretz - 11.24%
YA - 6.16%
Likud - 5.04%
Statist - 3.52%
Labor - 1.45%

Daliyat al-Karmel - 7.2k votes (Druze)
Statist - 54.88%
YB - 15.79%
YA - 11.39%
Meretz - 5.19%
Likud - 3.16%
Hadash - 2.78%
Labor - 2.63%
Ra'am - 1.2%

Isfiya - 4.8k votes (Druze)
Statist - 32.15%
YB - 17.51%
Balad - 11.18%
YA - 8.85%
Meretz - 8.5%
Hadash - 7.62%
Ra'am - 5.62%
Likud - 3.35%
Labor - 2.82%

Yarka - 5.7k votes (Druze)
Likud - 34.43%
Statist - 22.61%
YB - 15.68%
Meretz - 7.44%
Hadash - 7.2%
YA - 6.5%
Ra'am - 2.06%
Labor - 1.19%

Beit Jann - 4.8k votes (Druze)
Meretz - 61.59%
Statist - 9.77%
YB - 8.57%
Labor - 5.96%
Likud - 5.69%
YA - 3.5%
Hadash - 1.55%
Ra'am - 1.14%

Kisra-Sumei 1.9k votes (Druze)
Statist - 39.79%
YB - 16.76%
Likud - 9.77%
YA - 9.25%
Meretz - 7.46%
Labor - 4.68%
Hadash - 3.44%
Balad - 3.08%

The Statists (Gantz + Sa'ar) outperformed here and one can easily imagine why the Druze would vote for a military man.The Meretz strength in Beit Jann can be explained by #4 in their list being a local.

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The most surprising thing is that even with all of the protests, divisions and the complete trainwreck management of the approval of this bill, Netanyahu would probably still win a snap election, according to polls.

Of course, in an election period everything would, probably, be different but it speaks volumes that, currently, the Opposition is just not capable to form an alternative to Bibi Netanyahu.

Literally not true, all you have to do is check Wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_Israeli_legislative_election

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If I were Netanyahu I would simply flee to the US and give speaking tours at CPAC or whatever like Bolsonaro did instead of this.

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The interesting thing about Israel is that while the Netanyahu coalition has the allegiance of half the electorate, more or less, much of that electorate does not participate in Israeli civil society, which is to say that a clear majority of that society is opposed to him. It's not just that the government is trying to radically transform society with the barest popular mandate—the Kahanist militia that the government intends to create is obviously totally incompatible with existing Israeli society—it's that it's doing so without the acquiescence of, really, any of the productive sector of society.

And it will only get worse. The Haredim are predicted to make up a fifth of the Israeli population by 2040 and a third by 2065 thanks to their insanely high birth rate. Imagine a third of the population that does not pay taxes, participate in the labor market or serve in the armed forces but demands the productive parts of the nation live according their rules and fund their lifestyles. Such society would be untenable. At least the Arabs work!

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Yair Golan's heroism during the attack has also boosted Meretz's numbers. I think it's very likely Labor and Meretz will run together in the next election under General Golan.