Israel General Discussion: Annus Horribilis

[WalterWhite]

Hopefully, the next election not only Netanyahu's political career, but also the right-wing in Israel more broadly.

[Estrella]

Hopefully, the next election not only Netanyahu's political career, but also the right-wing in Israel more broadly.

The next government is going to be centrist at most, and probably quite right-wing if we take into account that the left-right divide in Israel is more about the “security issue” than anything. But it certainly will be the death of Netanyahu’s very distinctive brand of conservatism and of the 50/50 division of Israeli society into Bibi and Not Bibi camps — and that would be almost as big an earthquake as what you’re hoping for.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I accept that Israeli politics is skewed to the right for the foreseeable future, but like in Poland there are more sensible right of center coalitions that could exist.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The next government will be one of the secular center-right--Gantz, Lapid, and Lieberman could be enough for a majority, without the need for either left/Arab or right/settler parties.

[Hnv1]

Yair Golan's heroism during the attack has also boosted Meretz's numbers. I think it's very likely Labor and Meretz will run together in the next election under General Golan.

That would surprise me. He's a hero, but a political fool. I can't see it happening.

[Angel of Death]

Apparently, a draft ruling was leaked in which the Supreme Court overturns the "reasonableness law" with a 8-to-7 majority. Fun times indeed.

[CumbrianLefty]

Another triumph for Bibi if true.

[Oryxslayer]

Another triumph for Bibi if true.

Apparently, a draft ruling was leaked in which the Supreme Court overturns the "reasonableness law" with a 8-to-7 majority. Fun times indeed.

https://twitter.com/NewsWire_US/status/1741869251554599297?t=i820hvXVBJ3w9rf90kj...

Reminder that there is a throughline from this reform, the Public and private reaction,  and then government policy in the leadup to October of last year. Another glorious success for Bibi.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Another triumph for Bibi if true.

Apparently, a draft ruling was leaked in which the Supreme Court overturns the "reasonableness law" with a 8-to-7 majority. Fun times indeed.

https://twitter.com/NewsWire_US/status/1741869251554599297?t=i820hvXVBJ3w9rf90kj...

Reminder that there is a throughline from this reform, the Public and private reaction,  and then government policy in the leadup to October of last year. Another glorious success for Bibi.

Smart timing from the court.

[Conservatopia]

When I read "Anus Horribilis" I assumed this was a thread about Yair Netanyahu.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

What are the odds of a Meretz-Labor union?

[CumbrianLefty]

Well it has certainly been talked about a fair bit.

Though such mergers can often end up as less than the sum of their parts.

[Mike88]

Why did New Hope splitted from National Unity?

[Vosem]

Why did New Hope splitted from National Unity?

There's lots of speculation about this, though the stated reason is that they believe Sa'ar should be in the narrow war cabinet. (The narrow war cabinet is a troika currently governing Israel, consisting of Netanyahu, Gantz, and Yoav Gallant. Ron Dermer and Gadi Eisenkot are observer members.) The most likely reason is that Sa'ar is maneuvering to be a player in the next elections; there is a large bloc of voters who have abandoned Bibi, and are currently answering Gantz in public polling, but are not really incredibly natural Gantz voters and are probably winnable for Sa'ar. (There are others who intend to try to appeal them -- Bennett is likely to have a comeback, as is Lieberman, and there may be more breakoffs from Likud -- and it is possible that this lane will be very crowded in the next elections. That would probably be advantageous for Bibi since it would make forming a government without him harder.)

What are the odds of a Meretz-Labor union?

Decently high, since it's happened in the recent past. At the moment polls have Labor as very unlikely to get in, and they will probably need to reach an agreement with either Meretz or Gantz to remain relevant. It seems kind of dead, though -- in the future if it survives it will probably survive as an appendage to someone, and even popular figures associated with it (like Herzog) are likelier to just start their own parties than try to regain control of it. In hindsight Gantz choosing to form his own party and being so successful at getting the support of the most important Labor institutions (in particular, recruiting Nissenkorn, the chairman of the Histadrut) basically killed it.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

What are the odds of a Meretz-Labor union?

Decently high, since it's happened in the recent past. At the moment polls have Labor as very unlikely to get in, and they will probably need to reach an agreement with either Meretz or Gantz to remain relevant. It seems kind of dead, though -- in the future if it survives it will probably survive as an appendage to someone, and even popular figures associated with it (like Herzog) are likelier to just start their own parties than try to regain control of it. In hindsight Gantz choosing to form his own party and being so successful at getting the support of the most important Labor institutions (in particular, recruiting Nissenkorn, the chairman of the Histadrut) basically killed it.

It's not for nothing I've likened Israeli Labor to a zombie... for years.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/barakravid/status/1772328585807749244?s=46

[Mike88]

Benny now calls for snap elections in September:

https://twitter.com/FT/status/1775607801911370040

[Pres Mike]

Benny now calls for snap elections in September:

https://twitter.com/FT/status/1775607801911370040

Its the same situation in the UK. The opposition can call for an early election, doesn't mean it will happen

Right now, I don't see why Netanyahu's far right allies would abandon him, thus triggering an election.  They won't have any power in a government led by Gantz and Lapid

[Flyersfan232]

Benny now calls for snap elections in September:

https://twitter.com/FT/status/1775607801911370040

Its the same situation in the UK. The opposition can call for an early election, doesn't mean it will happen

Right now, I don't see why Netanyahu's far right allies would abandon him, thus triggering an election.  They won't have any power in a government led by Gantz and Lapid

lead by gantz lapid will be as minority partner

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Benny now calls for snap elections in September:

https://twitter.com/FT/status/1775607801911370040

Its the same situation in the UK. The opposition can call for an early election, doesn't mean it will happen

Right now, I don't see why Netanyahu's far right allies would abandon him, thus triggering an election.  They won't have any power in a government led by Gantz and Lapid

Shas and UTJ could drop him, although they would be screwing themselves over as well given the likely government would have no time for them.