Homosexual content in movies

[HardRCafé]

Two men kissing is gross, but two women kissing isn't.  Hard to explain, most people think it's a double standard (and I used to), but then I realized it's just the way things are.

Or acquiesced.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

So which way did you vote?

"yes"

Why?  I thought you hated both.

if the kissing is obviously sensual (e.g. tongue action), then I think it is inappropriate for a G rated movie.

[°Leprechaun]

What can one say about a thread like this?  But it is interesting that Jesus used the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to paint a picture of the future state of the world immediately prior to his return.  This thread is simply another sign that day is rapidly approaching.

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Well, I don't recall a lot of people objecting to pictures of Saddam with a noose around his neck on all the news shows. Personally, I found that disgusting. But what do I know?
Violence Good!
Sex Bad!

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Gee, while your at it, why don’t you blame Jesus for the Chicago Fire of 1871?

Don't you believe that Jesus is omnipotent?

What can one say about a thread like this?  But it is interesting that Jesus used the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to paint a picture of the future state of the world immediately prior to his return.  This thread is simply another sign that day is rapidly approaching.

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Well, I don't recall a lot of people objecting to pictures of Saddam with a noose around his neck on all the news shows. Personally, I found that disgusting. But what do I know?
Violence Good!
Sex Bad!

And you mention this because you saw pictures of Saddam's hanging in a G rated movie?

[Gabu]

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Gee, while your at it, why don’t you blame Jesus for the Chicago Fire of 1871?

I might do that if I were, uh, blaming Jesus for anything at all...

I don't really know what that statement is supposed to mean.

[MaC]

Romans 16:16   Greet one another with a holy kiss. The churches of
Christ greet you.

1 Corinthians 16:20   All the brethren greet you. Greet one another with
a holy kiss.

2 Corinthians 13:12   Greet one another with a holy kiss.

1 Thessalonians 5:26   Greet all the brethren with a holy kiss.

why do you feel this is relevant to what is being discussed? 

Yes, I think it is a no brainer that is all right for two people to kiss each other.  Why anyone would object, is beyond me. In fact, I seem to recall Timmy hugging his dog Lassie. Would it have mattered if Lassie was a boy dog?

uhm, Lassie was a boy dog.  All the cast Lassie dogs were male, playing female parts.

[°Leprechaun]

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Gee, while your at it, why don’t you blame Jesus for the Chicago Fire of 1871?

Don't you believe that Jesus is omnipotent?

What can one say about a thread like this?  But it is interesting that Jesus used the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to paint a picture of the future state of the world immediately prior to his return.  This thread is simply another sign that day is rapidly approaching.

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Well, I don't recall a lot of people objecting to pictures of Saddam with a noose around his neck on all the news shows. Personally, I found that disgusting. But what do I know?
Violence Good!
Sex Bad!

And you mention this because you saw pictures of Saddam's hanging in a G rated movie?

No I didn't see pictures of his hanging; I saw pictures of him with a noose around his neck.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Gee, while your at it, why don’t you blame Jesus for the Chicago Fire of 1871?

Don't you believe that Jesus is omnipotent?

What can one say about a thread like this?  But it is interesting that Jesus used the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to paint a picture of the future state of the world immediately prior to his return.  This thread is simply another sign that day is rapidly approaching.

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Well, I don't recall a lot of people objecting to pictures of Saddam with a noose around his neck on all the news shows. Personally, I found that disgusting. But what do I know?
Violence Good!
Sex Bad!

And you mention this because you saw pictures of Saddam's hanging in a G rated movie?

No I didn't see pictures of his hanging; I saw pictures of him with a noose around his neck.

...in a G rated movie?

[°Leprechaun]

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Gee, while your at it, why don’t you blame Jesus for the Chicago Fire of 1871?

Don't you believe that Jesus is omnipotent?

What can one say about a thread like this?  But it is interesting that Jesus used the story of Sodom and Gomorrah to paint a picture of the future state of the world immediately prior to his return.  This thread is simply another sign that day is rapidly approaching.

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Well, I don't recall a lot of people objecting to pictures of Saddam with a noose around his neck on all the news shows. Personally, I found that disgusting. But what do I know?
Violence Good!
Sex Bad!

And you mention this because you saw pictures of Saddam's hanging in a G rated movie?

No I didn't see pictures of his hanging; I saw pictures of him with a noose around his neck.

...in a G rated movie?

On the news.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

In theory and based on what the ratings are stated to mean, no.

But the point of a G rating is basically to say "there is nothing here that anyone would find offensive whatsoever".  That would not be the case with two guys kissing, sadly enough, so the fact that they receive PG-13 ratings is more a sign of the times than anything else.

Through this line of thought any movies with religious content should be rated higher, because it could offend people like opebo.

opebo represents so small a segment of the population as to be insignifiant.  This is not true of the segment of the population who would be offended by two guys kissing.

Atheists make up around 10% of the population, not insignificant.

[Gabu]

In theory and based on what the ratings are stated to mean, no.

But the point of a G rating is basically to say "there is nothing here that anyone would find offensive whatsoever".  That would not be the case with two guys kissing, sadly enough, so the fact that they receive PG-13 ratings is more a sign of the times than anything else.

Through this line of thought any movies with religious content should be rated higher, because it could offend people like opebo.

opebo represents so small a segment of the population as to be insignifiant.  This is not true of the segment of the population who would be offended by two guys kissing.

Atheists make up around 10% of the population, not insignificant.

How many of those 10% would get offended by relgious content to the same degree of the people getting offended by two guys kissing?

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Yes, we've definitely become so uncivilized since the good old days when people were burned at the stake for having the wrong set of beliefs or because we thought that the person was a witch.

Gee, while your at it, why don’t you blame Jesus for the Chicago Fire of 1871?

I might do that if I were, uh, blaming Jesus for anything at all...

I don't really know what that statement is supposed to mean.

sorry, I thought you were equating having moral standards with persecution.

Now I see you were saying that the world has gotten better in the last several hundred years in that less people are put to death for their beliefs…but I believe that is a temporary improvement.

[nclib]

I vote 'no'.

As far as movie ratings go, another unfortunate double standard is how violence is much less likely to get more restrictive ratings than sex.

[Gabu]

sorry, I thought you were equating having moral standards with persecution.

Now I see you were saying that the world has gotten better in the last several hundred years in that less people are put to death for their beliefs…but I believe that is a temporary improvement.

Well, in that case, we'll have to agree to disagree.

I vote 'no'.

As far as movie ratings go, another unfortunate double standard is how violence is much more likely to get more restrictive ratings than sex.

I think you mean "less likely", and I totally agree.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

No I didn't see pictures of his hanging; I saw pictures of him with a noose around his neck.

...in a G rated movie?

On the news.

but we're not talking about the news, we're talking about movies

and IMO, the local TV news in Houston would deserve a PG-13 rating if it were a movie

[nclib]

I vote 'no'.

As far as movie ratings go, another unfortunate double standard is how violence is much more likely to get more restrictive ratings than sex.

I think you mean "less likely", and I totally agree.

Yes. Corrected.

[Gabu]

I vote 'no'.

As far as movie ratings go, another unfortunate double standard is how violence is much more likely to get more restrictive ratings than sex.

I think you mean "less likely", and I totally agree.

Yes. Corrected.

Anyways, yes.  I remember hearing a funny thing that said that showing an explicit depiction of sex between a married couple would get your film an NC-17 rating.  Conversely, showing an explicit depiction of a spouse being murdered would only get your film an R rating.  I'll never understand why violent, destructive acts are deemed more okay for children than a completely natural human activity between two people.

[opebo]

Why?  I thought you hated both.

if the kissing is obviously sensual (e.g. tongue action), then I think it is inappropriate for a G rated movie.

Which one?  Two gents or breeders?

Btw, I don't particularly like tongue action. 

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Anyways, yes.  I remember hearing a funny thing I heard that said that showing an explicit depiction of sex between a married couple would get your film an NC-17 rating.  Conversely, showing an explicit depiction of a spouse being murdered would only get your film an R rating.  I'll never understand why violent, destructive acts are deemed more okay for children than a completely natural human activity between two people.

I see no redeeming value whatsoever in watching two people have sex.

But there is value, IMO, to the beach storming scene in Private Ryan.

[adam]

In theory and based on what the ratings are stated to mean, no.

But the point of a G rating is basically to say "there is nothing here that anyone would find offensive whatsoever".  That would not be the case with two guys kissing.

I agree with this.

[memphis]

Do they even make G movies anymore? It seems like only CGI kids movies get PG today. Everything else is PG-13 or R.

[Alcon]

No

I see no redeeming value whatsoever in watching two people have sex.

Sex is a part of life.  It's a culmination of love and passion, and isn't that great fodder for a movie?

That's kind of like saying, "what's the point of movies?  You're just watching what happens in life."

[Ebowed]

No.

I see no redeeming value whatsoever in watching two people have sex.

What if it's essential to the storyline?

[opebo]

I see no redeeming value whatsoever in watching two people have sex.

But there is value, IMO, to the beach storming scene in Private Ryan.

Such valuations are completely subjective, jmfcst.  You hate sex, I like it.  So, I'll watch sex, and you watch something else.

Isn't that reasonable?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Well it seems from the "gross" and "yucky" comments in here that it seems to be populated by 14 year olds.

In the streets, I am non-discriminatory,  I hate seeing PDAs from anyone.

For the juveniles in here, I'm straight, but don't find the idea of seeing two men or two women kissing passionately in anyway disgusting or gross.

I would rather my child saw two people who love each other expressing that love, than seeing to people attack each other in hate.