2044: Georgia is D+32, New York is R+3, California is R+.5. What happened?
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« on: October 15, 2022, 12:07:24 AM »

2044: Georgia is D+32, New York is R+3, California is R+.5. What happened?
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2022, 12:26:50 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2022, 12:34:07 PM by Reactionary Libertarian »

WWC become even more GOP, Latinos and Asians vote like Whites, male college attendance continues to decline, Georgia becomes majority Black.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2022, 12:34:24 PM »

Hispanic voters swing massively right, black voters stay super D and become a majority in GA.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2022, 12:31:53 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2022, 01:03:13 PM by Kamala’s side hoe »

Sun and Moon timeline realignment, with black voters outside the New South trending hard R and Asian voters in the New South becoming more D than elsewhere in the mainland US.

That and/or the Democratic Party becomes a paid off political arm of Coca-Cola, hence liberaltarian, pro-soda ban CA and NY voting R.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2022, 12:36:43 PM »

Hispanic voters swing massively right, black voters stay super D and become a majority in GA.

That and Hasidic Jews become the majority in NY.
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2022, 12:50:19 PM »

GA is 60% black, Jews, Asians and Hispanics trended R after a 1992 style alignment election in 2036. The Dems critical race theorists became to the left what the religious right did to the GOP in the early 90s, changed the coalition permanently.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2022, 03:21:03 PM »

This actually sounds more like an increasingly religious left/increasingly secular right scenario than anything else.   Think of a coalition of white and black Evangelicals and secular Northern/Western voters getting increasingly skeptical of the Dem platform with their increasing influence on it.  It would
 be reasonable to expect the Mormons to eventually flip in this environment as well.  Of course, abortion policy would have to be an afterthought in national politics by this time. 

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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2022, 06:52:48 PM »

2044: Georgia is D+32, New York is R+3, California is R+.5. What happened?

Georgia and Arizona vote alike. They would become among the Top 5 best-performed states for the Democrats.

This would be an election win by the Republicans.

New York and California would be potential bellwether states which, in such case, would carry for a winning Republican. States which vote like these two would also carry Republican.

The map would look very different by comparison to what we see here in the 2020s.

No harm having fun imagining.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2022, 07:05:07 PM »

Honestly, maybe it's just me, but the lazy/obvious explanation is the coasts go underwater because of rising sea levels and ice caps melting ('muh climate change', basically). In CA, that has a very obvious effect, since the coastal counties are very urban, populous D strongholds, while the inland is much more conservative - deducting all the coastal counties from CA in 2020 means Biden wins by about 300,000 votes out of about 5 million cast - so a margin of just about 6%, give or take. Then fool around with #trendz - move Hispanics/Asians rightward, and you get your R+5 result. In NY, climate change eats up NYC and Long Island, leaving only Upstate New York (and, depending on how you define the Upstate, a few other counties). With that done, deduct some of the counties in western NY that border Lake Ontario - including Monroe (Rochester) and Erie (Buffalo). By the time you've done both those things, NY casts roughly 3 million votes in 2020, and of that, Biden wins by less than 200,000 - so a % margin of probably 6-9% or thereabouts. Then, again, mess around with #trendz - maybe move rural NY a lot to the right, I don't know, whatever - and an R+3 result is quite possible.

As for GA being D+32, all I can guess is that the Atlanta metro continued its crazy growth rates - diversifying and growing and liberalising at a crazy rate - and outside of Atlanta, people in rural GA just packing up and leaving the state (particularly white people). Of course, we also need to account for the fact that, under my 'climate change is devastating to the coasts' scenario, coastal GA will be underwater, including Savannah, which is a not-meaningless source of Democratic votes (in 2020, Biden's raw vote margin in Chatham County was over twice his statewide raw vote margin - so if you deleted Chatham from GA, Trump would have very narrowly won GA in 2020).
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2022, 08:03:30 PM »

New York City is destroyed by a hurricane and about 50% of California breaks off and slides into the Pacific. The displaced refugees all move into Delta hangars.
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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2022, 08:34:50 PM »

Honestly, maybe it's just me, but the lazy/obvious scientifically inaccurate and implausible explanation is the coasts go underwater because of rising sea levels and ice caps melting ('muh climate change', basically).

In the next 22 years? Not even SnowLabrador would suggest this.

Skill and Chance’s religiosity realignment on top of the existing urban/rural and college education divides seems pretty plausible.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2022, 09:11:53 PM »

Honestly, maybe it's just me, but the lazy/obvious scientifically inaccurate and implausible explanation is the coasts go underwater because of rising sea levels and ice caps melting ('muh climate change', basically).

In the next 22 years? Not even SnowLabrador would suggest this.

Skill and Chance’s religiosity realignment on top of the existing urban/rural and college education divides seems pretty plausible.

Fair point, I honestly didn’t consider how relatively close to 2044 is to 2022. I just thought of it as the distant future, lol.
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