Would you rather live in North Dakota or Alabama?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

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[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I'd love to pull a Teddy Roosevelt and spend some time in the Dakotas living in the mountains. Alas, I lack the means and probably the grit.

[dead0man]

I'll take N.Dakota from May to October and 'bama for the winter.

[Goldwater]

Alabama (hates the cold)

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'd love to pull a Teddy Roosevelt and spend some time in the Dakotas living in the mountains. Alas, I lack the means and probably the grit.

No you wouldn't, trust me. Like no one lives in the mountain parts even by ND standards. The parts of ND that are actually inhabited are quite flat, although you might enjoy the rolling hills scenery around roads. (Well in central and western ND, the Red River Valley is a pancake.)

You might like Fargo or Bismarck though, they have an appeal in that they're both large enough to have necessary amenities and actually feel like civilization but still have low crime, and aren't as stressful and fast paced as big city living can be. And if you're an outdoorsy person, they're perfect for short little camping getaways. My dad likes to camp in a park south of Bismarck that's not even a 15 minute drive away.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I'd love to pull a Teddy Roosevelt and spend some time in the Dakotas living in the mountains. Alas, I lack the means and probably the grit.

No you wouldn't, trust me. Like no one lives in the mountain parts even by ND standards. The parts of ND that are actually inhabited are quite flat, although you might enjoy the rolling hills scenery around roads. (Well in central and western ND, the Red River Valley is a pancake.)

You might like Fargo or Bismarck though, they have an appeal in that they're both large enough to have necessary amenities and actually feel like civilization but still have low crime, and aren't as stressful and fast paced as big city living can be. And if you're an outdoorsy person, they're perfect for short little camping getaways. My dad likes to camp in a park south of Bismarck that's not even a 15 minute drive away.

I don't like flat. I'd definitely visit Medora. It has civilization but, like Colonial Williamsburg, it's small and they preserve their Old Western heritage.


https://www.yellowstonepark.com/road-trips/road-trip-stops/visit-north-dakota/theodore-roosevelt-national-park/

Who on God's greenish-brown earth wouldn't want to camp out or explore here?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I'd love to pull a Teddy Roosevelt and spend some time in the Dakotas living in the mountains. Alas, I lack the means and probably the grit.

No you wouldn't, trust me. Like no one lives in the mountain parts even by ND standards. The parts of ND that are actually inhabited are quite flat, although you might enjoy the rolling hills scenery around roads. (Well in central and western ND, the Red River Valley is a pancake.)

You might like Fargo or Bismarck though, they have an appeal in that they're both large enough to have necessary amenities and actually feel like civilization but still have low crime, and aren't as stressful and fast paced as big city living can be. And if you're an outdoorsy person, they're perfect for short little camping getaways. My dad likes to camp in a park south of Bismarck that's not even a 15 minute drive away.

I don't like flat. I'd definitely visit Medora. It has civilization but, like Colonial Williamsburg, it's small and they preserve their Old Western heritage.


https://www.yellowstonepark.com/road-trips/road-trip-stops/visit-north-dakota/theodore-roosevelt-national-park/

Who on God's greenish-brown earth wouldn't want to camp out or explore here?

Medora is basically Branson, MO in the Badlands. Yes the scenery is cool (I've been there recently but it doesn't feel like civilization at all, it's actually in the second least populated county in ND. The staff there are all seasonal and most aren't even ND residents.

You might enjoy a visit there though.

Hell you know what? If you really want to visit and can make it to ND next summer you can head over to my parents' place with me and they'll totally go with us (they visit most years.)

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

Medora is basically Branson, MO in the Badlands. Yes the scenery is cool (I've been there recently but it doesn't feel like civilization at all, it's actually in the second least populated county in ND. The staff there are all seasonal and most aren't even ND residents.

You might enjoy a visit there though.

Hell you know what? If you really want to visit and can make it to ND next summer you can head over to my parents' place with me and they'll totally go with us (they visit most years.)

That'd be a heavy lift for me finance-wise since I'm already going to DC next month and next year I need to fly to Connecticut to finalize my mom's burial. But a visit to the Badlands is definitely on my bucket list.

[T'Chenka]

Mobile > North Dakota > most of Alabama

My friend that is currently living in Mobile described it as "south of The South, in the same way that Florida is". I would never want to live in "The South", but Mobile seems not as bad to me, in the same way that Florida WOULD if it wasn't... Florida.

[dead0man]

I've heard people say Huntsville is the next Austin.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Who wants to live in the Arctic

[dead0man]

Who wants to live in the Arctic

I've gotten 4 different numbers from Google.  Somewhere between 1 million and 4 million people live north of the Arctic circle.  I'd guess most of them want to live there since most of them live in free countries that let people move if they want.  Mostly natives, scientists, military types and oil workers I'd imagine.

[Del Tachi]

Alabama actually has cities/culture

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Alabama, easily.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I've heard people say Huntsville is the next Austin.

I met a guy from Huntsville at Furnace Fest. He's originally from the Easf Coast but moved there because of his job. He said despite its size it's one of the most dull and culture-less cities ever. I asked him if there's any bands now and he said only one guy's solo black metal project and all the music venues just book generic bar rock stuff you'd expect to find in some hick town. He did say it's not that terrible for him because he can still go to shows in Birmingham and Nashville but based on his experience it's a far cry from Austin.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

I've heard people say Huntsville is the next Austin.

I met a guy from Huntsville at Furnace Fest. He's originally from the Easf Coast but moved there because of his job. He said despite its size it's one of the most dull and culture-less cities ever. I asked him if there's any bands now and he said only one guy's solo black metal project and all the music venues just book generic bar rock stuff you'd expect to find in some hick town. He did say it's not that terrible for him because he can still go to shows in Birmingham and Nashville but based on his experience it's a far cry from Austin.

Really? I went to Bama for a year in undergrad and Huntsville was always a fun visit.  Mind you, I'm the kinda person who could find fun pretty much anywhere, but I didn't think it was all that dull.  Nothing super special, but not the worst town I've ever been to. 

[bagelman]

North Dakota easily. One thing I'm not, for better or worse, is southern. The heat and humidity would drive me mad pretty quickly.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Alabama actually has cities/culture

Yes, a racist one.

[Del Tachi]

Alabama actually has cities/culture

Yes, a racist one.

Having Black people live somewhere makes it racist?  LOL

[Хahar 🤔]

I don't know many people in Birmingham and it's a fair but smaller than anywhere I've lived, but other than that it's always struck me as a place where I could live. Certainly it's a more substantial city than North Dakota has to offer. Auburn isn't one of my favorite college towns but I've spent some time there and it has the great advantage of being close to Atlanta. But the main thing here is the weather, which in Alabama is tolerable in the summer and nice the rest of the year. I couldn't possibly live anywhere that gets as cold as North Dakota.

[Mr. Smith]

Who wants to live in the Arctic

I've gotten 4 different numbers from Google.  Somewhere between 1 million and 4 million people live north of the Arctic circle.  I'd guess most of them want to live there since most of them live in free countries that let people move if they want.  Mostly natives, scientists, military types and oil workers I'd imagine.

Most of that land is Russia, so...

[T'Chenka]

Alabama already gets super cold (below 70°F yikes!), couldn't imagine what it's like in ND
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60 to 70 degrees is almost ideal weather. 65 to 75 is probably optimal.

[dead0man]

Who wants to live in the Arctic

I've gotten 4 different numbers from Google.  Somewhere between 1 million and 4 million people live north of the Arctic circle.  I'd guess most of them want to live there since most of them live in free countries that let people move if they want.  Mostly natives, scientists, military types and oil workers I'd imagine.

Most of that land is Russia, so...

sure, but generally speaking, people can move can't they?  I mean, it's not exactly the PRC.  <does some light Googling>, yeah, it seems people can move inside of Russia.

[Alben Barkley]

[HillGoose]

on the one hand i never want to move back to the south, on the other i hate the cold

Slight edge to Alabama here, especially if Mobile is an option.