Should other countries sanction the USA?

[SnowLabrador]

Personally, I think we should be sanctioned just as hard as Russia is being right now.

[Middle-aged Europe]

The invasion of Iraq happened 19 years ago. A case could be made that the U.S. should have been sanctioned back then... but three presidential administrations later??

While Trump's COVID response wasn't great, other countries fumbled the ball as well. So it's unclear why the U.S. should be specifically singled out.

A combination of sorts of these two arguments probably also apply to climate change denial. Maybe you could have tried to sanction Trump over leaving the Paris Accord. But that ship has sailed now.

[Aurelius]

lmao

> climate denial, which doesn't exist in any other country

lmao some more

[Cashew]

Iraq is too far back, Covid is too nebulous to justify, and the Paris agreement is mainly symbolic.

One thing that you could justify sanctions over is subsidized agriculture being dumped in Africa, but then again Europe and China do the same thing and I doubt anybody has the strength to sanction them all.

[NYDem]

This is a snow threaf

[Darthpi – Anti-Florida Activist]

No, you moron

[GeneralMacArthur]

Despite the best efforts of the Republican Party and its supporters, U.S. emissions per capita have dropped by 30% since An Inconvenient Truth was released, and Democratic legislation has kept them on track for continued downward motion.

[NewYorkExpress]

You'll have to tell me why you think so before I give you an answer.

[SnowLabrador]

You'll have to tell me why you think so before I give you an answer.

See the top post; my reasons are written next to the poll options.

[NewYorkExpress]

You'll have to tell me why you think so before I give you an answer.

See the top post; my reasons are written next to the poll options.

The invasion of Iraq is almost twenty years old and we've since withdrawn. If the U.S was to be sanctioned, it should have been in 2003.

COVID didn't become a pandemic because of any one country alone, so that argument falls flat.

We aren't the only country to currently propagate or to have propagated climate denial in the recent past. Look at Brazil under Bolsonaro. To say we alone should be sanctioned for it is ridiculous.

[HillGoose]

no that's some commie bullsh**t

sounds like something the Russkies and Red Chinese would say

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Yep, COVID was not viral in any other countries like, say, Italy or Iran, before it hit the United States. China's emissions have also risen since Iraq while ours have declined, but you don't think about that do you wumao?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

This sounds like an incredible way to create a permanent Republican majority.

Anyway, Snow threaf, etc etc.

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

Do you get all your news from Danny Haiphong? Jesus Horatio Christ.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The simple fact of the matter is that you cannot sanction the largest economy in the world without nuking yourself. This is doubly so when you consider that the only competition economically, is the PRC.

So if you want to sell your soul to the regime that is oppressing Hong Kong, locking up the Uighurs, threatening to invade Taiwan, and from which Covid originated, because of a war 20 years ago, failing to somehow stop Covid after it spread internationally (From China) and Climate Change (meanwhile China is pumping out emissions like crazy), sure go ahead.   

[Kahane's Grave Is A Gender-Neutral Bathroom]

The simple fact of the matter is that you cannot sanction the largest economy in the world without nuking yourself. This is doubly so when you consider that the only competition economically, is the PRC.

So if you want to sell your soul to the regime that is oppressing Hong Kong, locking up the Uighurs, threatening to invade Taiwan, and from which Covid originated, because of a war 20 years ago, failing to somehow stop Covid after it spread internationally (From China) and Climate Change (meanwhile China is pumping out emissions like crazy), sure go ahead.   

I mean SnowLabrador would probably do that.

[CumbrianLefty]

You'll have to tell me why you think so before I give you an answer.

See the top post; my reasons are written next to the poll options.

The invasion of Iraq is almost twenty years old and we've since withdrawn. If the U.S was to be sanctioned, it should have been in 2003.

COVID didn't become a pandemic because of any one country alone, so that argument falls flat.

We aren't the only country to currently propagate or to have propagated climate denial in the recent past. Look at Brazil under Bolsonaro. To say we alone should be sanctioned for it is ridiculous.

Its not like the OP never mentions him or anything

[Stranger in a strange land]

The invasion of Iraq happened 19 years ago. A case could be made that the U.S. should have been sanctioned back then... but three presidential administrations later??

While Trump's COVID response wasn't great, other countries fumbled the ball as well. So it's unclear why the U.S. should be specifically singled out.

A combination of sorts of these two arguments probably also apply to climate change denial. Maybe you could have tried to sanction Trump over leaving the Paris Accord. But that ship has sailed now.

The climate denial thing likewise would have made a little sense 15-20 years ago, but by now the evidence for climate change is too overwhelming to ignore, and even the default position among Republican politicians has shifted from "it isn't happening" to "it's happening, but we shouldn't do anything about it/let the market take care of it" which sadly isn't unique to the US, even though it's more widespread here than most other places. Also, the US isn't even the world's largest polluter anymore and emissions are moving in a positive direction.

And I hate to say this because I don't believe in Lab Leak Theory or that COVID was a bioweapon or anything stupid like that, but if any one country is responsible for COVID becoming a pandemic, it's China with their botched, bungled response in the first days of the outbreak. One could argue that the US was mainly responsible for COVID continuing to be a pandemic, but one also needs to take into account that the US was hit harder by COVID than almost any other country.

[bagelman]

In other news, the Islamic People's Republic of Shitland has places sanctions on US businesses and nationals. We tried, but we could not find anyone in the US who gave a rat's right behind about the move.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Our military is not Russia's and we would utterly decimate any attempts for this to be done.

[Pericles]

We have to hope the US succeeds and encourage it to improve, the alternative is a world where hostile dictatorships like Russia and China get to bully us.

[Lord Halifax]

Our military is not Russia's and we would utterly decimate any attempts for this to be done.

not that realistic to use the military against countries that impose economic sanctions.

[Frodo]

Only Edge Lords say 'yes'.  

[SnowLabrador]

We have to hope the US succeeds and encourage it to improve, the alternative is a world where hostile dictatorships like Russia and China get to bully us.

And sanctions are a way to do that.

[dead0man]

Our military is not Russia's and we would utterly decimate any attempts for this to be done.

we're going to use our military might to force nations to trade with us, in 2022?  I would hope not.